animats Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 New Babbage has an official winter season, and residents there are expected to provide snow. In spring, the Clockwinder announces the end of winter, and you have a week to make your snow go away. The look is quite nice, because it's consistent. Do any of the big private landlords have a similar seasonal theme? Bellesaria, though, doesn't have seasons that organized. A compromise might be some snow on the roof and some piles of shoveled snow around the property. Heavy snow right up to the property line, though, does look a little off. Now if you could talk a whole block into going in for a snow theme... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leora Jacobus Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 hours ago, animats said: New Babbage has an official winter season, and residents there are expected to provide snow. In spring, the Clockwinder announces the end of winter, and you have a week to make your snow go away. The look is quite nice, because it's consistent. Do any of the big private landlords have a similar seasonal theme?... The Ville de Coer where I rent a little cottage has wonderfull seasons. But they are created by the landlord, not by the tenants. I wouldn't trust them to do so. Some may be offline, on vacations, ill ...or just not willing! IF you want seasons, you have to have a region where all the landscaping is done by the owner and you get a house INSIDE of which you can decorate not OUTSIDE. In Bellisseria we have a garden that we can decorate, a fact that I really appreciate, so to have seasons is just not possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Patch Linden Posted November 7, 2019 Administrators Share Posted November 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Sylvia Tamalyn said: Didn't even take a year for Bellisseria to start sliding into Mainland-ness. lol How so? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Patch Linden Posted November 7, 2019 Administrators Share Posted November 7, 2019 For the rest of you discussing this topic, we're thinking through how to handle this. It seems we will obviously have to put up some guardrails on this matter to keep things in check. This will probably include some of the ideas we've seen here. We'll be back with an update once we've decided on a direction. 8 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwin Alcott Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Sylvia Tamalyn said: Didn't even take a year for Bellisseria to start sliding into Mainland-ness. lol did you expect otherwise? if covenants are seen only as guidelines there's a world of difference how people can use and see it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TessaPaige Jupiter Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 There are two camps, those that want snow and those that don't. Perhaps, as I stated before allow people to celebrate the holidays for a small window of time like 3 weeks. A couple of weeks leading up to the holidays and the week after. Then the AR's can kick in. Let people enjoy and celebrate the holidays how they like on their parcel. Sure some will be a tacky eye sore but some may be spectacular. Have a tour of holiday homes or a decorating contest like the Belli Citizens group did for Halloween. Make it inclusive and send positive vibes out into the SL world.🥂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eowyn Southmoor Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 NEWSFLASH!!! Snow storms hit Bellisseria! Wild snow storms have been moving round the continent, seeming to hit homes and campers at random. In some cases, heavy snow has almost buried campers and their surrounding yards, spilling out into the neighbourhood, whilst traditional homes owners seem to have fared better, the snow conveniently falling in a precise 32 x 32 metre square, miraculously missing the house altogether. 2 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspberry Crystal Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I guess people have got into a groove with how they do things in second life, and it remains to be seen how Patch & Co decide to interpret the covenant. It does seem to be a genuine surprise to some that continuity in landscaping is important to others. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marianne Little Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 hours ago, TessaPaige Jupiter said: There are two camps, those that want snow and those that don't. Perhaps, as I stated before allow people to celebrate the holidays for a small window of time like 3 weeks. A couple of weeks leading up to the holidays and the week after. Then the AR's can kick in. Let people enjoy and celebrate the holidays how they like on their parcel. Sure some will be a tacky eye sore but some may be spectacular. Have a tour of holiday homes or a decorating contest like the Belli Citizens group did for Halloween. Make it inclusive and send positive vibes out into the SL world.🥂 It isn't so easy. It has to do with immersion too. Green trees and flowering bushes among snow drifts. A 32 x 32 piece of snow. We could argue it's a snow spray machine's work, with polyester snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coby Foden Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Personally I definitely don't want to see any snow in Bellisseria. Snowy parcels would look totally out of place when the Linden protected lands would be in summer theme. Even small patches of show would not look right among summer scene. Winter Linden homes theme would need totally separate winter theme regions collection. Maybe a big island where all the regions would be in winter theme would work? Besides there are lots of winter themed regions in Second Life. They are just a quick TP away. In RL Christmas can be, and is, celebrated without snow in the tropics and in southern hemisphere. Why not in SL too? 🤷♀️ 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvia Tamalyn Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Patch Linden said: How so? I was referring to the attitude of some in the community, not the continent itself: the idea that everyone should do their own thing (even though the covenants require keeping in theme). I go to my Mainland parcels when I want to see a free-for-all decor-wise, which sometimes does include different climates on every parcel. I really don't want to see that in Bellisseria. I'm glad to see you are pondering the issue and how to handle it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyBear Lovely Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 38 minutes ago, Sylvia Tamalyn said: I was referring to the attitude of some in the community, not the continent itself: the idea that everyone should do their own thing (even though the covenants require keeping in theme). I go to my Mainland parcels when I want to see a free-for-all decor-wise, which sometimes does include different climates on every parcel. I really don't want to see that in Bellisseria. I'm glad to see you are pondering the issue and how to handle it. It's not like we're putting up pink and purple snow and that it's going to stay forever. It's Christmas.....the rationale for no snow would also mean no Christmas decorations. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwin Alcott Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, HoneyBear Lilliehook said: It's Christmas.....the rationale for no snow would also mean no Christmas decorations. ...non reason... ask Australians.. the Middle East, no snow at all or middle/south west europe... mostly rain, wind, grey, wet, stormy....again no snow at all. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyBear Lovely Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Alwin Alcott said: ...non reason... ask Australians.. the Middle East, no snow at all or middle/south west europe... mostly rain, wind, grey, wet, stormy....again no snow at all. Not even the point, but thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saphyre Cyberstar Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 well i would say if you start censoring peoples ability to celebrate holiday& seasons, then you are opening a hUGGE can of worms for all and not just the winter holidays .For example many people had some pretty sketchy halloween decorations which some people found objectionable because of real life trauma, example would be skeletons hanging from trees, and such . Not everyOne is going to like or appreciate the same things, and you can not expect your likes to be forced onto everyone . if you find something objectionable you have the ability to derender, as it is only for the season, and will be gone in a couple months. People are individuals and we are not all cut from the same cookie cutter. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwin Alcott Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, HoneyBear Lilliehook said: Not even the point total to the point: the real christmas decor spread two whole packs of straw on you livingroom floor, make a raw crib of lumber and put hay in it. Go to the market, buy some living sheep, a cow/ox and a donkey. Put those in your living for a week or two.. Have fun, but that's the real thing. don't forget to make a appointment with your partner to get pregnant in time or you won't have a baby to keep in some old sheets ( hire a Rabi in time for the 7th day thingie they do to boys, and 3 royals for januari 6th) Edited November 7, 2019 by Alwin Alcott 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyBear Lovely Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Saphyre Cyberstar said: well i would say if you start censoring peoples ability to celebrate holiday& seasons, then you are opening a hUGGE can of worms for all and not just the winter holidays .For example many people had some pretty sketchy halloween decorations which some people found objectionable because of real life trauma, example would be skeletons hanging from trees, and such . Not everyOne is going to like or appreciate the same things, and you can not expect your likes to be forced onto everyone . if you find something objectionable you have the ability to derender, as it is only for the season, and will be gone in a couple months. People are individuals and we are not all cut from the same cookie cutter. I personally despise all things Halloween. If I saw something I didn't like, I derendered. I sure as heck didn't tell people they couldn't put it out. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvia Tamalyn Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, HoneyBear Lilliehook said: It's not like we're putting up pink and purple snow and that it's going to stay forever. It's Christmas.....the rationale for no snow would also mean no Christmas decorations. Not everyone celebrates Christmas. ETA: And not everyone uses a viewer that can derender. For instance, the official SL viewer does not offer that ability. Edited November 7, 2019 by Sylvia Tamalyn 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyBear Lovely Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sylvia Tamalyn said: Not everyone celebrates Christmas. And not everyone celebrates Halloween....but we tolerated it because other people DO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspberry Crystal Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, HoneyBear Lilliehook said: .but we tolerated it Who are the 'we' in this sentence? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyBear Lovely Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 Just now, Raspberry Crystal said: Who are the 'we' in this sentence? I am not the only one who dislikes Halloween, believe me. Do I honestly need to name names? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspberry Crystal Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Just now, HoneyBear Lilliehook said: Do I honestly need to name names? I was wondering if this was a religious argument. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Patch Linden Posted November 7, 2019 Administrators Share Posted November 7, 2019 This thread is turning into a debate with tit for tat disagreement. Next step is to lock it and I'll carry this forward when we're ready elsewhere. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyBear Lovely Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Raspberry Crystal said: I was wondering if this was a religious argument. Not in the slightest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspberry Crystal Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I'm not keen on Halloween either, and prefer Christmas. However, it's the jarring discontinuity that a blanket of snow creates which bothers me here. I can process 'house with decorations'. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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