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20 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

Like Rolig, I teach, but I don't need to steel myself for it: I absolutely adore being at the front of the classroom and the centre of attention, and it takes me like 15 minutes to come down from the high afterwards.

I was a teacher too. I loved teaching, and for me as an introvert that meant performing in a role, which was great fun, but it was not really me, but the character I was playing, Ms. S., who is quite outgoing and animated. 

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1 minute ago, Pamela Galli said:

I was a teacher too. I loved teaching, and for me as an introvert that meant performing in a role, which was great fun, but it was not really me, it was the character I was playing, Ms. S., who is quite outgoing and animated. 

I had a prof, a sort of mentor I guess, many years ago who was definitely an extrovert, and a superb teacher. But even he would sort of waggle his eyebrows mischievously, and announce "show time!" before marching out in front of his (usually very large) class.

I think teaching -- and obviously it makes something of a difference if you're teaching kids, teens, or young adults -- is a special breed of thing with its own rules. I think it always involves an element of "performance" and even "role play." If you're good at it, anyway.

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As the MBTI guys will tell you, introvert and extrovert do not mean "a person who avoids others and just wants to be alone" and "a person who always wants to be in a group and is the life of the party."

We introverts CAN, and often do, work in a group, lead a group, are the life of the party.  It's just that it takes a lot out of us, and afterwards we recharge by being by ourselves for a spell.  Extroverts CAN, and often do, work alone on a complex task...but it takes a lot out of them, and afterwards they recharge by getting together with bunch o' folks.

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13 minutes ago, Lindal Kidd said:

As the MBTI guys will tell you, introvert and extrovert do not mean "a person who avoids others and just wants to be alone" and "a person who always wants to be in a group and is the life of the party."e

We introverts CAN, and often do, work in a group, lead a group, are the life of the party.  It's just that it takes a lot out of us, and afterwards we recharge by being by ourselves for a spell.  Extroverts CAN, and often do, work alone on a complex task...but it takes a lot out of them, and afterwards they recharge by getting together with bunch o' folks.

That makes good sense, and seems more nuanced than the usual way in which we talk about these categories.

There must be third and fourth or fifth options too, surely. I honestly don't think either of the two scenarios you lay out describes me. I suppose I probably lean towards being social, but I very much enjoy being by myself too: neither really necessitates extra effort.

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28 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

I think teaching -- and obviously it makes something of a difference if you're teaching kids, teens, or young adults -- is a special breed of thing with its own rules. I think it always involves an element of "performance" and even "role play." If you're good at it, anyway.

Definitely.  As I said, I was very good at it.  Like Pam, though, I had to approach it as role play.  When I was in a classroom with a couple of hundred students, I was playing a part.  And on the walk back to my office afterwards, I was taking off the greasepaint and sliding gratefully back into quiet time.  The place I felt most comfortable was in the lab, at night.

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1 hour ago, Sylvia Tamalyn said:

I did the test thing several years ago, and it said I am ISTJ. I did it again recently and got the same result, so I guess that's what I am. ISTJ = Introvert something something something = get off my lawn!

I knew I liked you for a good reason.   :)

I've taken it many times over the years, with the first time being in my High School Senior Psych class - and every single time, I come out at ISTJ.

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1 hour ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

Could it be that SL is such a different kind of environment, that it renders those conventional categories a bit moot?

In a way, but not totally, IMO.  See my comments about how it it a bit easier to come out of my shell here.  SL might ease some of my introvert tensions, but it doesn't completely eliminate them.

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I'm an INTP.

In large crowds, both RL and SL (and with that, I mean, >10 people), I'm often drained after a while, and need some alone time to gather new energy.

The largest crowd I ever could fake being extrovert for was a class of 20 7-graders whom I had for a double unit (=90minutes) each week, back then in '04 - I was their substitute English teacher then. But I did need a power-nap of at least an hour after each of these classes. 😪

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I may be the outlier here. I was VERY extraverted for the first half of my life (ENFJ if you use Meyers-Briggs). Then an injury, followed by a stroke changed some things for me.

When you have difficulty speaking clearly, appearance-conscious business starts slotting you into fewer “out front” roles - which was semi-OK with me because I was embarrassed by how I sounded and the other smaller side effects of my situation.  I was a natural extrovert who was learning to operate as an introvert; this led to any number of “issues” including a dance with depression.

The great thing about SL for me (mostly) is that my avatar looks “whole”, walks normally and when I peck on the keyboard; I don’t “slurr” my speech. I frequently get mistaken for “normal” here (which I like) and as a result I can be my old extraverted self here in SL.

I like it here 🙂

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I'm an extrovert. In the sense that I crave and need social contact, and it energises me. I live by choice in a busy city, I am out amongst people whenever possible.  Loneliness and isolation depress me. What I dislike though, is noise, non-human noise, so you will never find me in a busy nightclub in RL. A cosy pub with a group of 3 to 6 friends is my ideal.

What I am certainly not, is "the life and soul of the party". I will chat with strangers when the opportunity arises but I am not loud or brash. 

Second Life allows me to socialise when RL doesn't; neither I nor my friends can afford to go out to a pub in RL every night of the week and my friends in SL are here when my RL friends are not.

3 hours ago, Lindal Kidd said:

Extroverts CAN, and often do, work alone on a complex task...but it takes a lot out of them, and afterwards they recharge by getting together with bunch o' folks.

This is me, exactly.  

 

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11 hours ago, Eva Knoller said:

I’ve noticed some talk of personality types in recent threads, and am curious to see who identifies as introvert vs. extrovert. SL seems to appeal the the introvert in a lot of people.

I am an introvert who is forced to be extroverted at work and professional settings. As a result I REALLY value my recharge time. 

Please indulge my curiosity! 
 

Extrovert...hoo boy do I crave centre stage!

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I'm mostly introverted, although I'm sometimes a little more extroverted, especially at this time of the year - FG anniversary - or when the Fantasy Faire hits the grid. That's when I absolutely exhaust my energy and talk to so many people, lol. Afterwards, I return to be social hermit, and only talk to few people, if at all.
In general, I work best one on one, or with a very small group of maybe 3 other people. Everything else tends to overwhelm me quickly. However, I do not really require alone time that much, unlike my boyfriend, who's an absolut introvert, and will start to get grumpy after more than a week of constant company (Aka, my visits, lol) - and I'm already the exception.

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I don't remember what I tested as for Myers-Briggs except that it was introverted. I'll try to do the test again when I feel up to it for you guys. I definitely need time alone to recharge after anything. But then I've had fibromyalgia/chronic fatigue for perhaps my entire life.

I can be easily overwhelmed by a whirlwind of input, and that makes many social situations both exhausting and more than I can cope with. But if it's organised, then I love it. Like certain types of music where the musicians are working together to make several complex parts a unified whole. I love being in the audience for that and how we'll respond as a complex whole. Something about that kind of music can settle my brain when it's misfiring and I regularly use music to postpone seizure activity when I have to go through a neurally difficult situation to get to a safe place. One of my strengths was informal teaching, improvising as I went based on what that particular group gave back. Whole-school assemblies were brilliant. A day going to every class was energizing, though the fibro would take over when it was done. The same thing happens with any extended period of concentration though, whether alone or in a group. But now I look back and see how much farther I could push myself in that kind of setting and I wonder if my true personality might not be more towards an extrovert than my body has allowed.

A big part of what I like about SL is that the demands to be social are less than in person. There are the pauses while an IM goes through. Longer pauses are more acceptable than in RL, and they don't always need to be explained or can be explained simply. Saying something like "I need to RL for a bit, talk more later?" lets me end a conversation in a socially-acceptable way when my brain decides its had enough and the person I'm speaking with can't see my eyes losing focus or any of the other things that happen when my internal computer starts to power down. I also don't need to then get myself home safely.

Anyway, that's just me and besides being neurally different, it's being made abundantly clear to me in the forums that I'm an outlier values-wise and in how I approach things so who knows if my data point counts for anything.

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I am INTP (Logician). I was extremely surprised when I got that result, mostly because I was not aware that I had always been an introvert but also how accurate the description was. And a sigh of relief that it is actually nothing wrong with me, there are more people who feel the same.

Life forced me to fake being an extrovert but I managed to find a way of dealing with that by taking a unique role in all groups and teams, where I can both cooperate with people on my own terms but mostly I work as an independent specialist. No problem to stand in front of the crowd and give a speech or run a meeting, it is fine, as long as there aren't many interactions between us. Additionally I am not good at feelings and emotions and probably I could discuss everything to offer a solution instead of any emotional support.

And in SL... well, I have maybe like 6 persons on my friend list and we talk really occasionally but I really like all of them and appreciate that they like me the way I am. As an introvert I am usually drained of energy after too many interactions or spending too much time in a group of people spamming gestures, texts and meaningless chatting. It took me 3 years to decide to come to my first forum breakfast meeting (am I holding the record now?) and it was a great breakfast but the decision process was long.

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Not much of a surprise: INTJ, scoring about as "I" as possible. I thought most of it was hogwash, but the exec training course where I was first exposed to Myers-Briggs had one exercise that divided the room into the Introverts and Extroverts and gave both groups the task of devising the best way to divide up a birthday cake among eleven people. Those of us in the "I" group spent the whole time working on the geometry, which we presented in detail.

The "E" group said they'd ask folks how much cake they wanted.

The whole "I" group blushed. Never even crossed our minds, any of us.

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Its a slow day at work, so I took the Myers-Briggs test online out of curiosity. Says I'm a ISFP.

I'm not suprised about the introvert part. I enjoy activities in smaller groups, with people that I know and like. And after I went to a convention with friends, I need a day just for myself at home to recharge. I'm also glad I live alone. I could never deal with having strangers as roommates and would need some space just for myself, even if I had a partner.

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Fascinating. Took that squib free thing and got INTP-a (*)

Funny that a place I rather like for being so non binary is happy to define itself in to 0x10 (or 0x0f if properly indexed) chunks.

(*) actually I fudged it to fit in, I really  got 3 oranges and a banana.

 

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27 minutes ago, Syo Emerald said:

Its a slow day at work, so I took the Myers-Briggs test online out of curiosity. Says I'm a ISFP.

*Highfives Syo* I'm an ISFP as well. We're awesome.
My guy is an INTP.  

I actually had strangers as roomates when I was a teen, which is precisely the reason why I don't want to share a house with two good friends of mine, who really would like me to join. But I vastly prefer to live on my own. I'd not move in with my boyfriend either, both of us would not like it. I have a hard time imagine that we could ever do that - I'd argue that it'd only be possible if the home had enough rooms for each of us to retreat into solitude.

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3 minutes ago, Sukubia Scarmon said:

*Highfives Syo* I'm an ISFP as well. We're awesome.

Yay! Makes me wonder, if that did shine through on the forum. Considering how I always thought you are awsome/my kind of person, but felt too awkward to IM you.

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5 minutes ago, Syo Emerald said:

Yay! Makes me wonder, if that did shine through on the forum. Considering how I always thought you are awsome/my kind of person, but felt too awkward to IM you.

Don't worry, I also feel to awkward to IM myself. *ducks* Or other people, for that matter.

Hrm, that's a good question. I think to a certain degree it does. While not set in stone or anything near absolute - sometimes I get INFP, the Mediator, as a result,even though that doesn't fit me as well as the adventourer - it's a good test for a broad categorization of personalities.

Also, come to think of, I even have a type - most of my romantic interessts have been INTP's, or at least belonged in the Analyst group.

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i did a whole bunch of online free tests, answering each test as honestly as I was able

i came out in order of overall results as: INFP, INTP, ENTP and ISTJ

it seems a test result depends more on the questions asked than the answers.  When go thru all the explanations of each type then I can see how I could go yeah! thats me, and oh! yeah thats me as well, and that, and that too

in every test I was always more on the introvert side, but not way over. Which feels fairly true

so I think overall I am pretty much normal person and a little bit curious

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