Selene Gregoire Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 17 minutes ago, Amina Sopwith said: "But I warn you, I did time in Attica." 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Gregoire Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Just now, Amina Sopwith said: Throaty, deeper female voices are gorgeous Until the telemarketer types call you 'sir' even after you've corrected them... several times... and then they try to claim it wasn't deliberate. BS. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amina Sopwith Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 47 minutes ago, Selene Gregoire said: Until the telemarketer types call you 'sir' even after you've corrected them... several times... and then they try to claim it wasn't deliberate. BS. Sorry to hear that, that's annoying and unpleasant. They sound pretty thick, though. Surely you listen to the customer when you're trying to sell something to them? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairreLilette Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 21 hours ago, Arduenn Schwartzman said: Not that I even care whether people are Voice-verified or not, but to what advantage do people put this in their profiles? And even if it mattered somehow, how can one tell it's even true? To me, it seems totally meaningless, like putting in your profile that you are a certified billionaire. But maybe I'm somehow missing the point here. Maybe they mean to say: "willing to talk on Voice"? Then why not say so? Or does it simply mean: "I won't talk to you on voice, but you'll have to take my word for it that my avatar represents my RL gender"? To me, it just doesn't make any sense at all. Can someone explain it? The first time I went on voice was nearly the last time BECAUSE after all that headache to get it working, he should have been "English verified". I couldn't hardly understand him and his broken English because of a very, very heavy accent. I currently do not voice at all. As other's in this thread said, it is mostly heterosexual males who want to make sure you are a female and somehow, someway someone verified that they are a male in real life which I have no idea how that could happen either or who would be making that testimonial to me, that indeed they are a verified "male" whatever that means. I don't know what a verified male means. It's ambiguous. Is he going to show me pictures? Ewwwww....no way. Been there, done with that too. Shakes head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairreLilette Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 14 hours ago, RaeLeeH said: There's a group (or several?) that you could join and voice with the mods in order to "be verified" and from that point on wear some kind of acknowledgement of it in your profile. Or just be a member of those groups. That's how it USED to be. Not something I personally endorse or do but I know of it. But when it all boils down we still have to take the mods' word for it that everyone else wearing the same tag or verification/tick of approval is actually being honest. Considering voice morphing programs not just in SL but external plug-ins make it a moot point. And I wouldn't go so far as to say it's all a man's hangup. Seems the population by and large are becoming increasingly paranoid. Case in point: SL Secrets. I absolutely abhor that site (but for some reason my best friend loves it). The amount of vitriol spewing from both sexes over who's a man and who's a woman IRL behind the avatar is disgusting. It amuses me that the people doing the demanding expect everyone else to take their word for it, or will happily almost force voice on you to prove their gender regardless whether you care or want to know or not. That's basic insecurity and not confined to one specific gender. Oooo, I should have read RaeLee's post here first. Well, now I know what it means. I also wanted to say I thought it was kind of haughty to put voice verified in your profile. There is just something haughty about it to me that I don't like. Turned me off to the person. Made them seem very rigid in what is supposedly, to me, a non-rigid environment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Gregoire Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 50 minutes ago, Amina Sopwith said: Sorry to hear that, that's annoying and unpleasant. They sound pretty thick, though. Surely you listen to the customer when you're trying to sell something to them? You would think so but they don't. Simply because I am female and they thought I'd be a pushover. They thought wrong. One or two lost their jobs over it. I made sure of that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amina Sopwith Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, Selene Gregoire said: You would think so but they don't. Simply because I am female and they thought I'd be a pushover. They sound like REALLY bad salespeople. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Gregoire Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Amina Sopwith said: They sound like REALLY bad salespeople. The sad part is not all of them are in sales or telemarketing. Many of them are in customer service. Calls centers tend to attract those who can't do much of anything else and those who are desperate for work, until they can find something better or just flat out have to quit because hostile work environment. Been down that road a few times myself. Never again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ildiko Evergarden Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) It's not even telemarketing. It just stupid people in general who expect all women voices to sound like some anime tiny girl fresh out of high school. I'm tired of hearing " you have a sexy d**e voice" when I'm not even a lesbian. or " Sir, can you turn your mic down " when I was born with lady parts! If I recall the voice actress for the character Naruto in the anime Naruto dubbed version is a woman. YES women can have husky ,deep voices. Doesn't mean we aren't women! Even kid Goku's voice actress was a woman. Edited August 25, 2019 by Minx Kurosawa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talligurl Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) On 8/24/2019 at 3:30 PM, Arduenn Schwartzman said: it just doesn't make any sense at all. Can someone explain it? If i had to explain everything people do that makes no sense I would be explaining constantly. Edited August 25, 2019 by Talligurl 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madelaine McMasters Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 On 8/24/2019 at 2:30 PM, Arduenn Schwartzman said: Can someone explain it? I can, but only on voice, which I don't do. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Nova Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 19 hours ago, Arduenn Schwartzman said: Oh darn, another one I'm compelled to add to my profile: Virginity-verified Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amina Sopwith Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 11 hours ago, Minx Kurosawa said: It just stupid people in general who expect all women voices to sound like some anime tiny girl fresh out of high school...YES women can have husky ,deep voices. Doesn't mean we aren't women! Funnily enough, they do seem to choose actresses with huskier, deeper or older voices when the character is a femme fatale or otherwise in control of her own sexuality. Marlene Dietrich, Kathleen Turner as Jessica Rabbit, Ursula in The Little Mermaid, and an older actress for the famous "food porn" M&S adverts (you can find them on YouTube if you're not British and curious). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resi Pfeffer Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, Minx Kurosawa said: YES women can have husky ,deep voices. Doesn't mean we aren't women! The resonance (and size) of the larynx makes the difference between a male and a female voice. Even if you scream for hours and smoking 15 cigars at once - everyone who is not an idiot will recognize you as a female. Just dont know how many idiots are out there. Edited August 26, 2019 by Resi Pfeffer typo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyona Su Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Resi Pfeffer said: The resonance (and size) of the larynx makes the difference between a male and a female voice. Even if you scream for hours and smoking 15 cigars at once - everyone who is not an idiot will recognize you as a female. Just dont know how many idiots are out there. I know some guys whose voice would be very ambiguous over the phone and I have met some old-lady, life-long smokers that sound very manly. *Age* has a lot to do with also, you forgot that very important ingredient. Edited August 26, 2019 by Alyona Su Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resi Pfeffer Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, Alyona Su said: I have met some old-lady, life-long smokers that sound very manly. *Age* has a lot to do with also, you forgot that very important ingredient. Of course an old voice sometimes is sounding like rusty door hinges, but still havent heard a female voice making me believe its a man. As long as the larynx doesnt change its volume/shape, its not that hard to know if its a male or female. Resonance is key for the biggest part, and doesnt change completely when becoming older. Everything else, like intonation or vocabulary just adds to a voices "personality". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 What if they sounded like one of Marge Simpson’s sisters (older long-term smoked voice)? Would that seem like a man’s voice to some people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceka Cianci Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 I only lost my voice one time.. I never had to be verified afterwards when it came back..I must have been grandfathered in. That,Super Premium Excalibur Account of Awesomeness Membership,just keeps on giving and giving.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Gregoire Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Resi Pfeffer said: Of course an old voice sometimes is sounding like rusty door hinges, but still havent heard a female voice making me believe its a man. As long as the larynx doesnt change its volume/shape, its not that hard to know if its a male or female. Resonance is key for the biggest part, and doesnt change completely when becoming older. Everything else, like intonation or vocabulary just adds to a voices "personality". You must have never attended any of the seminars that teach women how to drop their voices by as much as a full octave in order to make their voices sound more authoritative. The change was permanent and I wish I had never learned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, Selene Gregoire said: You must have never attended any of the seminars that teach women how to drop their voices by as much as a full octave in order to make their voices sound more authoritative. The change was permanent and I wish I had never learned it. I’ve heard a lot of stories on the radio (NPR) about how some women get training to not use “upspeak” in order to sound more assertive to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Gregoire Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said: I’ve heard a lot of stories on the radio (NPR) about how some women get training to not use “upspeak” in order to sound more assertive to others. I have no idea what this "upspeak" is and I took the seminar 40 years ago. The seminars weren't a new thing back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 19 minutes ago, Selene Gregoire said: I have no idea what this "upspeak" is and I took the seminar 40 years ago. The seminars weren't a new thing back then. “Upspeak” is when the tone rises at the end of a sentence, as if you’re always asking a question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madelaine McMasters Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 18 minutes ago, Selene Gregoire said: I have no idea what this "upspeak" is and I took the seminar 40 years ago. The seminars weren't a new thing back then. Upspeak is when you enunciate a statement as if it's a question, raising the pitch of your voice at the end. I don't like hearing that from anyone for exactly the reason Love mentions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love Zhaoying Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 19 minutes ago, Madelaine McMasters said: Upspeak is when you enunciate a statement as if it's a question, raising the pitch of your voice at the end. I don't like hearing that from anyone for exactly the reason Love mentions. It’s almost a dialect in some places (like California). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selene Gregoire Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said: “Upspeak” is when the tone rises at the end of a sentence, as if you’re always asking a question. 23 minutes ago, Madelaine McMasters said: Upspeak is when you enunciate a statement as if it's a question, raising the pitch of your voice at the end. I don't like hearing that from anyone for exactly the reason Love mentions. Oh. That ridiculous way of speaking. It all started with the *bleepity bleep bleep* Valley Girls. Which is why I never really got along with one of my sisters-in-law. I mean, like, grodie to the max and gag me with a spoon. *runs away screaming and pulling out fur* Edited August 26, 2019 by Selene Gregoire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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