Sylvia Tamalyn Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Flower Caerndow said: Just left a beach camper on Wood if anyone is looking for one! I wonder if that is the one I got (I posted in the Beautiful Abandons thread). If so, thank you! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TarraMcBain Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Counting down til Second Life 17th Birthday – 19th June to 10th July!!! 7 days to go til next Friday 🙂 It’s predicted that the lab will announce a new Linden Home theme just like last year. eeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkk (squeals with anticipation ) 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marianne Little Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 2 hours ago, TarraMcBain said: Counting down til Second Life 17th Birthday – 19th June to 10th July!!! 7 days to go til next Friday 🙂 It’s predicted that the lab will announce a new Linden Home theme just like last year. eeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkk (squeals with anticipation ) Me too, I have a total drought of creativity and have not had so low interest in SL several months. I wish for a house theme that will sweep my feet away under me. 😍 And a return to less clone regions... more like the Victorian areas where cloning is used sparsely. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangeline Ling Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Marianne Little said: Me too, I have a total drought of creativity and have not had so low interest in SL several months. I wish for a house theme that will sweep my feet away under me. 😍 And a return to less clone regions... more like the Victorian areas where cloning is used sparsely. Thank you for voicing an opinion I share with you.... I get it cloning was a useful way of increasing the volume of houses but the end result is that your home in a cloned region just feels less unique. My Log Home is a wonderful lot with water on two sides but its a bit depressing to open the map and see the exact same lake repeated 8 times over on the map. It really has made me move my appeal back to older Bellisseria where things were always made in a unique one of a kind way. Even if your lot was not the best lot it was always unique and not found anywhere else on the map. I'm excited to see what comes next though, I'm sure I will experiment with whatever it is even if it is cloned to death like the last theme. But as it stands right now the home that I have that makes me feel the most at home is still my Traditional lot in old Belli, right after that is my houseboat which even now as summer is hitting i'm finding i'm spending more time there again. The only lot i rarely ever visit is my Log Home. Only a matter of time before I release it. Edited June 13, 2020 by Evangeline Ling 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nika Talaj Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 19 minutes ago, Marianne Little said: And a return to less clone regions... more like the Victorian areas where cloning is used sparsely. /me looks at the pink SSP1501-1550 development regions dubiously. That's about how many regions were used to create the Log Home templates. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marianne Little Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Yeah well... clones is the future? It is interesting to see how my interest in Bellisseria is dropping, but I believe it has more to do with my general low interest in SL. I am more on the forum than in SL. I read that Super Premium is postponed due to the economic situation many suffer from... due to the virus and its effects on the economy. LL does not wish to release an expensive premium model now. It is understandable, but I was looking forward to it. So now I don't have Super Premium to be exited over either. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fendi Miles Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 all the cute summery furniture coming out lately has made me really want to get an alt premium to try for one of these houseboats, which I never thought i'd want.... but I feel like those are too rare! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspberry Crystal Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 12 hours ago, Evangeline Ling said: Thank you for voicing an opinion I share with you.... I get it cloning was a useful way of increasing the volume of houses but the end result is that your home in a cloned region just feels less unique. My Log Home is a wonderful lot with water on two sides but its a bit depressing to open the map and see the exact same lake repeated 8 times over on the map. It really has made me move my appeal back to older Bellisseria where things were always made in a unique one of a kind way. Even if your lot was not the best lot it was always unique and not found anywhere else on the map. Replying to @Marianne Little also. The cloning affected me on an emotional level, from when it first began in the Victorian regions. (To be fair though, from day one, I thought the level of individual building felt unsustainable, I just hoped that it would continue.) Cloning killed the magic of the project for me, I stopped believing in the project, and lost my sense of connection and excitement. (Actually that first houseboat extension, which spoiled the natural look of the map was the first red flag.) I feel bad for feeling this way, and hope things change. My reaction doesn't feel fair, at all because it is still so much work for the creators, and the new places are very beautiful. All the homes are full, and the team are fulfilling their brief, but I personally am out of love with it and spending less time (and money) in SL as a consequence. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Starlight Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 17 hours ago, Marianne Little said: Me too, I have a total drought of creativity and have not had so low interest in SL several months. I wish for a house theme that will sweep my feet away under me. 😍 And a return to less clone regions... more like the Victorian areas where cloning is used sparsely. I hear you—they obviously used clones in the Victorians! However, even though the basic layout was often cloned there, each clone has unique features with regard to the trees, flowers, rocks, parks and land elevation. In the log homes, the clones are the exact same down to the last blade of grass! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frigga Freidman Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Raspberry Crystal said: Replying to @Marianne Little also. The cloning affected me on an emotional level, from when it first began in the Victorian regions. (To be fair though, from day one, I thought the level of individual building felt unsustainable, I just hoped that it would continue.) Cloning killed the magic of the project for me, I stopped believing in the project, and lost my sense of connection and excitement. (Actually that first houseboat extension, which spoiled the natural look of the map was the first red flag.) I feel bad for feeling this way, and hope things change. My reaction doesn't feel fair, at all because it is still so much work for the creators, and the new places are very beautiful. All the homes are full, and the team are fulfilling their brief, but I personally am out of love with it and spending less time (and money) in SL as a consequence. People are being honest about their reactions to the existence of cloned regions within Bellisseria, so I'm going to be honest as well. I find myself becoming increasingly peeved by this part of the thread. Repeating patterns existed in nature before town planners or moles made use of them. Why? Because they're efficient. Individual parcels are blank canvases to make your own; a neighborhood of such parcels will never be exactly duplicated, even if its topography is. If a world map were unavailable to us, how many of you would even know that regions have been cloned? Have you walked/cycled/driven *so* many miles of SL roads that you've noted every rock, every tree, every lake or pond? Why does it bother you that someone else, or even several someone elses, have the same lovely view that you do? For my part, the existence of cloned regions meant that I had several opportunities to settle in one of the log home plots I'd identified as "my perfect spot". And I'm glad that 7 other people were equally fortunate. 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Starlight Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 25 minutes ago, Frigga Freidman said: People are being honest about their reactions to the existence of cloned regions within Bellisseria, so I'm going to be honest as well. I find myself becoming increasingly peeved by this part of the thread. Repeating patterns existed in nature before town planners or moles made use of them. Why? Because they're efficient. Individual parcels are blank canvases to make your own; a neighborhood of such parcels will never be exactly duplicated, even if its topography is. If a world map were unavailable to us, how many of you would even know that regions have been cloned? Have you walked/cycled/driven *so* many miles of SL roads that you've noted every rock, every tree, every lake or pond? Why does it bother you that someone else, or even several someone elses, have the same lovely view that you do? For my part, the existence of cloned regions meant that I had several opportunities to settle in one of the log home plots I'd identified as "my perfect spot". And I'm glad that 7 other people were equally fortunate. Overall yes I concur....it's doesn't bother me enough to quit GOH, NO WAY!!! LOL I have no issue with clones, they just got a little bit boring after rolling them for 1.5 months! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marisa Starbrook Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 It took me a long time to embrace the log homes. The rollout lasted at least a month, so I got a chance to experience a lot of different locations. It did hearten me to know that if I gave up my “perfect” location that I might be able to land it again in another region, with a region name that I preferred. Now I’ve got the front of the Grand View facing a charming pond. Even though my initial reaction was “deja vu all over again,” it’s starting to feel like home. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Whimsy Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Are there any add-ons for the Log Homes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elena Blossom Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Caroline Whimsy said: Are there any add-ons for the Log Homes ? Check the Marketplace Caroline; just type 'log cabin', and many will show up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspberry Crystal Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Frigga Freidman said: People are being honest about their reactions to the existence of cloned regions within Bellisseria, so I'm going to be honest as well. I find myself becoming increasingly peeved by this part of the thread. Repeating patterns existed in nature before town planners or moles made use of them. Why? Because they're efficient. Individual parcels are blank canvases to make your own; a neighborhood of such parcels will never be exactly duplicated, even if its topography is. If a world map were unavailable to us, how many of you would even know that regions have been cloned? Have you walked/cycled/driven *so* many miles of SL roads that you've noted every rock, every tree, every lake or pond? Why does it bother you that someone else, or even several someone elses, have the same lovely view that you do? For my part, the existence of cloned regions meant that I had several opportunities to settle in one of the log home plots I'd identified as "my perfect spot". And I'm glad that 7 other people were equally fortunate. ...but it does bother me! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvia Tamalyn Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Frigga Freidman said: People are being honest about their reactions to the existence of cloned regions within Bellisseria, so I'm going to be honest as well. I find myself becoming increasingly peeved by this part of the thread. Repeating patterns existed in nature before town planners or moles made use of them. Why? Because they're efficient. Individual parcels are blank canvases to make your own; a neighborhood of such parcels will never be exactly duplicated, even if its topography is. If a world map were unavailable to us, how many of you would even know that regions have been cloned? Have you walked/cycled/driven *so* many miles of SL roads that you've noted every rock, every tree, every lake or pond? Why does it bother you that someone else, or even several someone elses, have the same lovely view that you do? For my part, the existence of cloned regions meant that I had several opportunities to settle in one of the log home plots I'd identified as "my perfect spot". And I'm glad that 7 other people were equally fortunate. Thank you! You said exactly what I was just thinking as I read this thread. I love the fact that if there is one "perfect" spot, several lucky people (maybe me!) will get one just like it! I don't see the downside to more people being happy. I have explored some of these cloned regions in detail, and they are not identical cardboard cutouts of each other. Yes, the general layout of the parcels is cloned, but there are differences once the landscaping goes in. I really do not understand people despairing over this, because it sounds like "Yes, I got an awesome spot but now it's totally ruined because someone else got one that looks like it." Do people also get upset when someone has the same Truth hair that they have? Edited June 14, 2020 by Sylvia Tamalyn 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartzwhim Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 23 hours ago, TarraMcBain said: Counting down til Second Life 17th Birthday – 19th June to 10th July!!! 7 days to go til next Friday 🙂 It’s predicted that the lab will announce a new Linden Home theme just like last year. eeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkk (squeals with anticipation ) where did you hear this prediction? I have been outta the loop for a bit. I hope its true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercedes Avon Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Honestly, I never noticed some regions were cloned. And trust me, I bike, scooter, horseback ride and what not all over the place. I guess since many people use addons, paint shells and add their own things to their parcels it looks changed up enough for me. /waves to Faydra who I got the extreme pleasure of meeting in person in SL. Our homes are fairly close! I really enjoyed meeting you! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raspberry Crystal Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Sylvia Tamalyn said: I really do not understand people despairing over this, because it sounds like "Yes, I got an awesome spot but now it's totally ruined because someone else got one that looks like it." Do people also get upset when someone has the same Truth hair that they have? Yes they do! 😄 edit: especially if they stood right next to them Edited June 14, 2020 by Raspberry Crystal 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nika Talaj Posted June 14, 2020 Author Share Posted June 14, 2020 23 minutes ago, heartzwhim said: where did you hear this prediction? I have been outta the loop for a bit. I hope its true LL has not announced that there will be a reveal. But they have yet to make ANY detailed announcement about SL17B, and things that they've been doing inworld seem to indicate that they're preparing for one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brat Spicy Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Totally with @Frigga Freidman and @Sylvia Tamalyn There was a time everything about Bellisseria was exciting. When we would jump up and down only to be able to get a house, no matter where it was. Now people became picky af, including myself. So now clones became depressing... You know what was depressing? When there were hardly houses available and you had to spend weeks to get one. Refreshing while you hungry, but scared to leave and miss a house. Crying and pissed people on forum, because they could not get a house at all. If cloning helped fixing that faster, I am all for it. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nika Talaj Posted June 14, 2020 Author Share Posted June 14, 2020 32 minutes ago, Sylvia Tamalyn said: I have explored some of these cloned regions in detail, and they are not identical cardboard cutouts of each other. Yes, the general layout of the parcels is cloned, but there are differences once the landscaping goes in. I see occasional small differences in landscaping between clones, but for the most part the landscaping is the same, so far as I've observed. And I have researched it a bit; here is Abnor's slide showing placement of template tiles in LogLand. The place where there is a LOT of room for differences is where tiles meet other tiles and SSPE regions. Boom Tender is a pleasant region which is cloned here & there (bright red tiles); the Boom Tender copy abuts the SSPE region that contains the "eye" in Big Bird Lake, which is a parkland region. Homes along that edge are greatly enhanced The peaceful, pretty, private Aconti parcel we have has 9 clones (turquoise tiles)! I visited many of them to see how corresponding parcels looked. The Aconti one feels unique because it fronts (with a Grand View) on an SSPE region that is unusually low in land level and has Loon Lake. The other versions I visited all were adjacent to other homes that felt very close. We'll see what the moles do with the SSPE region! 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karynmaria Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) 57 minutes ago, iBrat said: Totally with @Frigga Freidman and @Sylvia Tamalyn There was a time everything about Bellisseria was exciting. When we would jump up and down only to be able to get a house, no matter where it was. Now people became picky af, including myself. So now clones became depressing... You know what was depressing? When there were hardly houses available and you had to spend weeks to get one. Refreshing while you hungry, but scared to leave and miss a house. Crying and pissed people on forum, because they could not get a house at all. If cloning helped fixing that faster, I am all for it. Totally agree with you and the others. I remember letting go of my first traditional when they first came out and waiting 2 weeks to get another one. I don't mind at all that some areas are templates (clones) because I am not really interested in the map. I want to see the actual area and unless I have a parcel in that area, I am not even going to think about it. And lets not forget that these are suppose to be starter homes. Most people only have one home, meanwhile I have 3 different homes and bring out more alts when there is a new release. I certainly didn't do this with the older homes. These new homes are also new to the Moles as they come up with different themes and find efficient ways to get the areas built and trying to make them unique. Of course they are going to experiment and as far as I'm concerned each region has it's own charm even if a template was used. Edited June 14, 2020 by karynmaria 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvia Tamalyn Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 36 minutes ago, Nika Talaj said: I see occasional small differences in landscaping between clones, but for the most part the landscaping is the same, so far as I've observed. And I have researched it a bit; here is Abnor's slide showing placement of template tiles in LogLand. The place where there is a LOT of room for differences is where tiles meet other tiles and SSPE regions. Boom Tender is a pleasant region which is cloned here & there (bright red tiles); the Boom Tender copy abuts the SSPE region that contains the "eye" in Big Bird Lake, which is a parkland region. Homes along that edge are greatly enhanced The peaceful, pretty, private Aconti parcel we have has 9 clones (turquoise tiles)! I visited many of them to see how corresponding parcels looked. The Aconti one feels unique because it fronts (with a Grand View) on an SSPE region that is unusually low in land level and has Loon Lake. The other versions I visited all were adjacent to other homes that felt very close. We'll see what the moles do with the SSPE region! The regions don't look identical to me. I guess YMMV in this, as in most things! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eirynne Sieyes Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) You guys have a much better eye than I have. Cloning doesn't bother me at all. Lack of water is the only thing I respond poorly to. I think there is a general "upsetness" given events in RL that is a direct result of COVID and its sequelae. It stands to reason that our unease would spill over to color our impressions of the Linden Homes - and everything else! 😟 Edited June 14, 2020 by Eirynne Sieyes 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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