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8 minutes ago, Louminca said:

 So does that mean I cant be a home psychic, massage therapist, any therapist, a pub, or a roleplay daycare?? 

Massage parlour, escort agency............ once the foot is in the door, who knows what might follow?

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21 hours ago, Blush Bravin said:

Rather than quoting a policy from 2011, which was implemented for the old Linden Homes, why not look at the actual covenant from Bellisseria? 

The statements regarding advertising are only  as follows:

 *Linden Homes can not be shown in search.

  *Using prims or objects on parcels meant as advertisements on the world map is not allowed.

Those are the ONLY restrictions stated in the current ....

Winning! so true. The Lindens made New rules for the New homes . 

So thoses are the rules that should be referenced regarding the homes.

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2 hours ago, Sylvia Tamalyn said:

Oh, look. My memory had faded a bit, so I just went back to the AF house. The sign doesn't even have a name on it.

ETA: And the parcel's name is not the name of the store, either. 

 

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It USED to say "A**** Pie".  You can fill in the asterisks.  I may have the date I was there in my teleport history but  maybe two weeks ago?  I didn't bookmark so have no idea what sim it is in :D.   This is much more tasteful I think. The other sign wasn't all that impressive aside from the obvious store reference.   

Edit: While I remembered the name as "A**** House" my landmark tells me it was "A**** Pie" so one or the other.  Nothing else on the sign as I remember. 

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59 minutes ago, Chic Aeon said:

It USED to say "A**** Pie".  You can fill in the asterisks.  I may have the date I was there in my teleport history but  maybe two weeks ago?  I didn't bookmark so have no idea what sim it is in :D.   This is much more tasteful I think. The other sign wasn't all that impressive aside from the obvious store reference.   

Edit: While I remembered the name as "A**** House" my landmark tells me it was "A**** Pie" so one or the other.  Nothing else on the sign as I remember. 

The parcel name has always said Pie, as far as I know, and I visited it when it was first made available to the public. 

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3 minutes ago, Sylvia Tamalyn said:

The parcel name has always said Pie, as far as I know, and I visited it when it was first made available to the public. 

Sorry I was reading your comment to "say" (which it didn't) that "A****" wasn't part of the parcel name. Seems likely the maker wouldn't want the store name as the parcel name. THAT would be confusing in search unless it said "demo house" or something.  

Still MUCH more tasteful sign IMO. :D A good thing!

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The open house is simply that, an open house. It doesn't have my brand name on it, my parcel is named Apple Pie. It's not an Apple Fall Open House, it's an open house which happens to be owned by me (Apple Fall). It's a Linden Home which I have decorated and have chosen to open the doors to share it with the Bellissaria community. My home also features many items from other stores including Botanical, Tres Blah, Studio Skye, What Next to name a few. It serves no purpose except to exist as a place that people can visit and hopefully leave feeling inspired to decorate their own home.

 

I'm not here pushing my brand. The parcel isn't listed on classifieds, it isn't in land search, I'm not selling any products and my brand name is nowhere except on the items I have created (as is the same with every single item on the grid). Have I used some of my items? Of course, is that considered commerce? No. In any factual definition and in regards to the land covenant I am not doing anything wrong. I'm sorry that you didn't enjoy visiting the open house, and I feel sad that, as others have mentioned, in a community that has only been thriving on the excitement of the Linden Homes project and the positive momentum that has come from the Lab and residents alike; that you feel the need to be, for want of better phrase, a sour apple.

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1 hour ago, Chic Aeon said:

It USED to say "A**** Pie".  You can fill in the asterisks.  I may have the date I was there in my teleport history but  maybe two weeks ago?  I didn't bookmark so have no idea what sim it is in :D.   This is much more tasteful I think. The other sign wasn't all that impressive aside from the obvious store reference.   

Edit: While I remembered the name as "A**** House" my landmark tells me it was "A**** Pie" so one or the other.  Nothing else on the sign as I remember. 

Meant to quote this as well

 

Sorry I was reading your comment to "say" (which it didn't) that "A****" wasn't part of the parcel name. Seems likely the maker wouldn't want the store name as the parcel name. THAT would be confusing in search unless it said "demo house" or something.  

Still MUCH more tasteful sign IMO. :D A good thing!

 

As you can see from this blog post posted April 21 by Whimsy Winx the sign is the same as it's always been.  It's ALWAYS been tasteful!!

Apple Fall - Linden Home - Open House

 

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4 minutes ago, Blush Bravin said:

As you can see from this blog post posted April 21 by Whimsy Winx the sign is the same as it's always been.  It's ALWAYS been tasteful!!

All I can say was that the sign I saw was on the other side of the walkway, was white and  plain like with a simple black "metal" border.  I may have been hopping over to that other reality I visit quite often (not always handy) but that is what I remember. I "MAY" have seen an extra sign for a "tour" maybe?  I guess that is a more likely explanation than the alternate reality.  

I did NOT take a screenshot :D.  Glad it has always looked classy. 

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All I can say was that the sign I saw was on the other side of the walkway, was white and  plain like with a simple black "metal" border.  I may have been hopping over to that other reality I visit quite often (not always handy) but that is what I remember. I "MAY" have seen an extra sign for a "tour" maybe?  I guess that is a more likely explanation than the alternate reality.  

I did NOT take a screenshot :D.  Glad it has always looked classy. 

It sounds like you are remembering the sign from the other house. That's a pretty good description of it.

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8 minutes ago, Blush Bravin said:

It sounds like you are remembering the sign from the other house. That's a pretty good description of it.

The day that I went to the "pie" house there were tons of folks there, so likely there was some kind of event, tour, open house gallery thing going on.  I just ignored the people (and likely the sign they were in front of on the right) and cammed into the building.   Since I have never gone or been in any of the event tours, I wouldn't recognize any signs anyway.  

I kinda like the alternate reality explanation though, much more fun. 

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23 minutes ago, Blush Bravin said:

As you can see from this blog post posted April 21 by Whimsy Winx the sign is the same as it's always been.  It's ALWAYS been tasteful!!

Apple Fall - Linden Home - Open House

 

 

Every time I see this house and how it is decorated, I am tempted to move into the smaller home (I currently have the Winchester). It sure shows what you can do with one of these homes! 

 

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18 minutes ago, Chic Aeon said:

The day that I went to the "pie" house there were tons of folks there, so likely there was some kind of event, tour, open house gallery thing going on.  I just ignored the people (and likely the sign they were in front of on the right) and cammed into the building.   Since I have never gone or been in any of the event tours, I wouldn't recognize any signs anyway.  

I kinda like the alternate reality explanation though, much more fun. 

I remembered you posted from an open house .. so I went and found that post .. here it is

You were at the other house. That's not the Apple Pie house. :) 

There was so much going on that weekend that it's easy to get the houses confused. :) 

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30 minutes ago, Blush Bravin said:

I remembered you posted from an open house .. so I went and found that post .. here it is

You were at the other house. That's not the Apple Pie house. :) 

There was so much going on that weekend that it's easy to get the houses confused. :) 

I actually went to both the same day. Note that I found the landmark in my teleport history.  Likely they were on the same tour? As I definitely remember the "A****" part of the sign and don't see how that is applicable to the other house.  I liked the A house better but yes, very crowded at both.

Can we let this go now? I am certainly going to.  

 

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4 hours ago, Odaks said:

Massage parlour, escort agency............ once the foot is in the door, who knows what might follow?

Can I please, please, please start the neighborhood brothel?? I've always wanted to be a madam!

It'll be SUPER classy, I promise! 😝

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To be totally safe you could put the actual brothel somewhere on mainland, and decorate the home in pictures of visitors to your location having all the fun .. lets call it 'art', pop a script with an on_touch script event for that all important tooltip .. , if you do put up a sign, omit any names or suggestion that this might be a commercial venture or marketing exercise, best pick something people can take literally like 'Art Gallery' and do it all from a new account named "TheSuperClassyBrothel Resident".

Probably be fine.

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Don't overdo it, on either side.

I report mainland signs for abuse now and then, generally only if they're huge and ugly. The rules are that signs can't be more than 8m above ground level, can't be illuminated, must not move or be animated, and can't give stuff to people off property. I've reported:

  • A 64m tall rotating FOR SALE sign. All rotating FOR SALE columns violate the ad policy, but I only bother to report the really blatant violations. Hint to landowners: the big landlords use small, subtle FOR SALE signs, often just little discs in the ground. You might see a FOR SALE sign a meter or two high, like in the real world. A giant FOR SALE column says "your potential landlord is a jerk."
  • A 25m high, 15m wide illuminated billboard placed on a 16m^2 parcel and overhanging a Linden road. In a nice rural area, too. Somebody bought up some of those old little 4x4 meter parcels from a defunct ad farm and is trying to put huge billboards on them that go way outside their tiny parcel. Report as abuse if you see one.
  • Landmark givers that cause a popup as you drive by. Annoying, because you have to dismiss the popup, which interferes with driving.

None of this is on Bellesaria. Just regular mainland.

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10 hours ago, warehousefifteendesigns said:

 

I'm not here pushing my brand. The parcel isn't listed on classifieds, it isn't in land search, I'm not selling any products and my brand name is nowhere except on the items I have created (as is the same with every single item on the grid). .....a sour apple.

B| to the last words.

I have inspected items in other houses and bought the same items three times just the last week. Other creators.

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15 minutes ago, Marianne Little said:

B| to the last words.

I have inspected items in other houses and bought the same items three times just the last week. Other creators.

As have I.  And I'm loving it!   I went with the Adams home since almost all around me were Winchesters.   With Blushed add-on's its more than livable and way stinking cute!   When I get done done I'm going to take pics and post them on here to share.   TY all for sharing, creating and having open houses.  Gets the creative genes going!   

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17 minutes ago, Nataliaa Choche said:

 With xxxxxx add-on's its more than livable and way stinking cute!  

the show homes are ok i think there's nothing wrong with showing what is possible... but the constant sharing of names at the forum is really a very grey area, share it with your friends, but be carefull here, promoting/advertising gets ugly fast, and hould be avoided totally in a discussion as this one.

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4 minutes ago, Fox Wijaya said:

the show homes are ok i think there's nothing wrong with showing what is possible... but the constant sharing of names at the forum is really a very grey area, share it with your friends, but be carefull here, promoting/advertising gets ugly fast, and hould be avoided totally in a discussion as this one.

My bad.  Not sharing to influence, if I were I would have used the entire name..  I was just sharing my opinion.   As you can see I'm a newbie to the forums so I'll make future reference of this.  This is literally like only the 2nd or 3rd time I've shared on here.  Do not scare me back into my shell!   :)     Have a good rest day @ all of you.

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5 minutes ago, Fox Wijaya said:

the show homes are ok i think there's nothing wrong with showing what is possible... but the constant sharing of names at the forum is really a very grey area, share it with your friends, but be carefull here, promoting/advertising gets ugly fast, and hould be avoided totally in a discussion as this one.

It is very common and has never been reacted to by moderators. To the best of my knowledge. As long as the creators don't advertise their own stuff. Naming and shaming is promptly removed.

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1 minute ago, Marianne Little said:

It is very common and has never been reacted to by moderators. To the best of my knowledge. As long as the creators don't advertise their own stuff. Naming and shaming is promptly removed.

there has been no intervention in the posts where it specificly is about making your place nicer, but it doesn't belong here.
I'm affraid there will be a cleaning action on this forum section soon, or at least should be,  the amount of useless posts and threads gets a bit out of hand.

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1 hour ago, Fox Wijaya said:

there has been no intervention in the posts where it specificly is about making your place nicer, but it doesn't belong here.
I'm affraid there will be a cleaning action on this forum section soon, or at least should be,  the amount of useless posts and threads gets a bit out of hand.

Maybe so. You haven't seen all the posts in the Avatar underforum. That part is filled with information about this and that, to make our avatars just as we want them. I think we will do fine with LH homes.

I can hide information under spoilers or link to Flickr where it is listed. It is then a choice if someone want to see it, others can skip it.

Edit to add: I am tired of Forum police... moderators do that job.

 

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13 hours ago, warehousefifteendesigns said:

The parcel isn't listed on classifieds, it isn't in land search, I'm not selling any products 

All of those things are either disabled or expressively forbidden. Even if you have managed to interpret the stated rules so as to declare a dedicated show home to be on the no-commerce side of the line. Inspiring residents to go decorate is hardly necessary or justification, unless of course they they needed to be reminded of what, precisely, they should be decorating with. To call this purely none-commercial would be a misnomer. A advert in a magazine, or a product placement in film also denies a customer the ability to make an immediate purchase, yet is no less of a commercial act, it is disingenuous to state otherwise.

The comparisons to a show home and looking in random peoples houses is not comparable, I can look at someones accessories while out and it not be a commercial act on behalf of a brand. Of course if said brand invested time or money into dressing people on the subway, it would without any doubt be marketing and therefore commercial.

Getting your product to be seen at the right time by the right people is half of the art, and to that end and even without knowing sales numbers, this would count as a successful piece of well timed and well executed product placement. Certainly one of the best in SL in recent memory.

We're not children, we don't believe Popeye chose to consume spinach because it made him strong, and nor do I believe you didn't anticipate a reaction. The worst case outcome would have been if someone had simply filed an AR and the Lab quietly cleaned up.

Chiming in at this point and not taking a well deserved bow also only really suggests insecurity as at no point did I call your brand out by name, and there are others of course.

Which brings up the exit strategy. There are two ways to play this and it's not too late to put some thought into it.

Rather than raising to the bait,  justifying your actions and allowing the question to be asked over and over (I might be the only one prepared to stick my neck out on the forums, but the opinion isn't isolated), presents a possible worst case. You succeed in preserving a long term presence only to have your brand inevitably used as justification for another doing something you would rather not be associated with. It is after-all only a matter of time before someone else attempts to find that line by overstepping the one you have defined.

A better option. would be to withdraw with a flourish, flipping the property back to the pool followed by gifting it's next occupant with a copy of all the contents. Hearts and minds won, a little gushing through the community and one lucky new occupant finding they have not only long shot managed to win a house, but a little lottery on top. Standing by the house with a party waiting for the new owner to rez in would certainly be one of defining moments of this new Land expansion and really nail the landing.

A perfect 10.

With the added bonus that should you  attempt a similar exercise again with a different home or houseboat, the sense of anticipation would be quite spectacular.

 

(and I'm not a sour apple)

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