Prokofy Neva Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) So Second Life is down, as you can see from this thread -- the old graphic of the monkeys banging the bones, taking from 2000: A Space Odyssey are invoked. So the question is: why? The word on the street has been because LL is "moving SL to the cloud". But every time in the past year or so I've heard that as an explanation of bad things, someone will say "but they didn't move it yet". So did they or didn't they? "Moving to the cloud," as anyone who has run an office or a busy web site knows, can be a mixed blessing, but generally it's supposed to be "better" and "faster". So...why? Each time one of these hard crashes has occurred, I've been busy putting out animesh dragons or trying to run them with a HUD that won't work, or trying animesh developer kits or making a feeding bowl for my dragon that uses up lots of particles and scripts. There's been an absolute explosion of dragons and dragon-theme related items in SL because of "Game of Thrones," which is something my son watched years ago and dropped but has become wildly popular even among middle-aged people who never did dungeons and dragons before. Probably there is a political and social reason for this... I was just at an event with a whole bunch of roaring dragons, dragon eggs, dragon throne, dragon tea (which not surprisingly consists of dragonfruit, which I'm not sure actual dragons use). So I blame the dragons, but more technically, I think it's this: o Animesh was grafted on to a world not originally intended for it. o Bento was grafted on to a world not originally intended for it. o EEP is being grafted on to a world not originally intended for it. So it's like grafting "Western capitalism" on to "Russia," or something. The "shell" of SL is changed since 2003, but perhaps not greatly. It's not like every atom has been replaced. The other day, again, I was putting out an animesh thing and a gatcha rare house when all of a sudden, I had a message that "4 objects have returned to lost and found". Four is nothing; maybe I didn't set it to the group. Then more and more trickled; soon it was "58 objects". So I immediately flew to the scene. A few tenants were crying that their skyboxes were returning. Now the returns were deluging -- virtually everything in the sky was returning, and some of what was on the ground, although large houses and rocks remained -- very odd. A quest I had spent three months laying out -- all bunched up in Lost & Found. THOUSANDS of objects, many no-copy gatchas or things made on the fly and never copied into inventory (lesson learned!) Curiously, scripted things just made not returning; old things unscripted from years ago returning... I was in such shock that all I could do when I called the help desk was say "Something bad is happening in Winnipeg..." This "something bad" shaped up over the next few hours to be an enormous disaster -- builds returning, no-copy items not returning -- etc. And the sim was not overloaded. I usually keep a buffer of at least 1000 or more prims and it was more like 1500 when I had last checked. A few tenants had a few things out overprimming, but that was not by any more than say 200 or 300 prims. The animesh dragons or pets or breedables are always on that sim and don't cause any problems. One tenant was upset that maybe it was her scripted baby. But I don't see how that could possibly be the reason. When things return, there is usually an order to it -- last in, first out. In the old days, if a griefer fire-primmed your sim, you could face returns, but Lindens built this "grey-goo fence" thing and made other changes to prevent that. Normally, a tenant attempting to put out 500 prim jewelry on a table will see it bounce and get a message about the parcel full or even the sim full. If I imprudently link mesh to a twisted prim suddenly creating a 3000-prim monster, it tells me I can't do that because there isn't enough room. So something is wrong in that "last in, first out" system -- and I know in the past they've had to fix that over and over. In this case, the Lindens rolled back the sim to restore the builds at least to the last sim save. They NEVER do this. In the time I've been in SL (nearly 15 years) I've seen them do this perhaps 2-3 times for Mainland. The reason is obvious -- anything you've just spent the whole day building, any gatcha rares you put out, now disappear forever if the sim is rolled back in time (which was sad, but I was happy to sacrifice that for the whole sim's sake). Conversely, you may get doubles of gatcha rares in a rollback, which may or may not make up for what you lost. And this is also PS a copybotting technique the Lindens are wise to. Also what happens is that with a rollback, too, you go back over the whole thing and find odd things missing -- because you didn't know they were missing before or "just because". This is a real wake-up call for me on the Mainland, which I remain devoted to. Large projects don't really fit on the Mainland. They should put put on private islands you have more control over, you can watch better as to top scripts, and which in theory can be rolled back upon request to the Concierge if there's a crash or return of a build. If you insist on big builds on the Mainland -- and the Lindens have them, too -- you should go through and make cluster copies and put them in folders and/or take a picture. This is a bother. But better than crying when a year's work is deleted. Edited May 14, 2019 by Prokofy Neva 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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