brady Teardrop Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 can you rez a seven seas fishing on the new land Bellesseria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritigern Gothly Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 I don't see why not. IIf you have the system, you can rez it on the parcel that you live on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Luminos Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Yes but I'm not sure that you'd be allowed to rez the rod/bait vendor; that would count as commercial activity. Likewise I don't think paid contests would be allowed either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyona Su Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 13 hours ago, Lewis Luminos said: Yes but I'm not sure that you'd be allowed to rez the rod/bait vendor; that would count as commercial activity. Likewise I don't think paid contests would be allowed either. This. Though you could rez a server, just not the sales vendor. If it's for yourself, just wear the wearable server and have the ability to fish any and everywhere you go, including the Sahara desert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maitimo Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 On 5/9/2019 at 2:23 PM, Alyona Su said: This. Though you could rez a server, just not the sales vendor. If it's for yourself, just wear the wearable server and have the ability to fish any and everywhere you go, including the Sahara desert. Wearable server and invisible fishing rod, auto-cast on. Quickest way I know to get your inventory over 100k. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maitimo Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 (edited) On 5/9/2019 at 12:23 AM, Lewis Luminos said: Yes but I'm not sure that you'd be allowed to rez the rod/bait vendor; that would count as commercial activity. Likewise I don't think paid contests would be allowed either. Strange though, I just read the covenant through again, slowly, twice, and I can't see any restriction on commercial activity, other than that parcels cannot be listed in Search. I swear it was there originally but it seems like it's not, now. So as the covenant stands right now, I think a 7 Seas vendor or paid contest would be legal. Edited May 11, 2019 by Matty Luminos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyona Su Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 29 minutes ago, Matty Luminos said: Strange though, I just read the covenant through again, slowly, twice, and I can't see any restriction on commercial activity, other than that parcels cannot be listed in Search. I swear it was there originally but it seems like it's not, now. So as the covenant stands right now, I think a 7 Seas vendor or paid contest would be legal. If you are correct that you are doubly correct because "advertising" would be through LL properties (SL Adverts, Market Place, etc) - so even contests and location listing via 7Seas web site should still be legal in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachel Dallas Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 where do i find the wearable server ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixie Kobichenko Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, BrittenyLynn said: where do i find the wearable server ? Its in the (7S Boxed Stuff) More Fish Server Styles box that comes in the area kit. Edited October 19, 2019 by Pixie Kobichenko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixie Kobichenko Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 On 5/11/2019 at 3:50 PM, Matty Luminos said: Wearable server and invisible fishing rod, auto-cast on. Quickest way I know to get your inventory over 100k. I reject all my inventory offers- its in the same menu as auto & quiet cast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moles Dyna Mole Posted October 20, 2019 Moles Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) On 5/11/2019 at 3:54 PM, Matty Luminos said: I just read the covenant through again, slowly, twice, and I can't see any restriction on commercial activity, other than that parcels cannot be listed in Search. The covenant says: "Activities and items that could be construed as commercial and for profit by Linden Lab are not permitted in the residential homes and houseboats in Bellisseria." Edited October 20, 2019 by Dyna Mole 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindal Kidd Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Hmmm. But the server isn't a commercial activity that profits YOU (unless you run contests with entry fees or something). It would profit the 7 Seas folks, though. I really don't know how LL would rule on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moles Abnor Mole Posted October 20, 2019 Moles Share Posted October 20, 2019 They already have ruled on this one. If it involves the transfer of L$ from one person to another it is commercial. They could have the fishing server, but not the vendor that people pay into for bait or anything else. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunny Bunny Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Thinking people just want to play the fishing game not sell stuff. This has already been done in a LDPW area http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Gecko/163/166/22 and it's free to fish. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maitimo Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 7 hours ago, Dyna Mole said: The covenant says: "Activities and items that could be construed as commercial and for profit by Linden Lab are not permitted in the residential homes and houseboats in Bellisseria." I know it's there now, but I'm pretty certain it wasn't there before. I know it was intended to be, I think it was just forgotten, and added in later. Anyway, I am glad it's there now, and very clear. However, it makes me wonder, as this section of the Covenant refers only to use of the home and boat parcels but it doesn't mention activity in public, Linden-owned spaces within Bellisseria, such as the public pools, parks, Campwich Lodge etc. It makes me wonder specifically about DJs using tipjars in those spaces - I know they don't, and it's commonly agreed that tipjars are not allowed in any part of Bellisseria, whether private or public. But maybe the Covenant ought to mention that too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Macbain Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Matty Luminos said: However, it makes me wonder, as this section of the Covenant refers only to use of the home and boat parcels but it doesn't mention activity in public, Linden-owned spaces within Bellisseria, such as the public pools, parks, Campwich Lodge etc. It makes me wonder specifically about DJs using tipjars in those spaces - I know they don't, and it's commonly agreed that tipjars are not allowed in any part of Bellisseria, whether private or public. But maybe the Covenant ought to mention that too? Patch has already clarified this as well - No commercial activity anywhere in Bellisseria, including tip jars, fishing things, prostitution, etc., etc., so on, so forth, ad infinitum. https://thebellisserian.wixsite.com/editionsix/helpful-info Quote Many people have questioned the last part of the rule in the covenant which reads, "...in the residential homes and houseboats in Bellisseria." Patch clarified this, stating that the covenant is in force "everywhere in Bellisseria." I asked about exceptions or exclusions to the rule at places like the fairgrounds, and the response was, "to be fair across the board, there will not be exceptions." One last point of clarity, some have suggested that since skyboxes are not near to homes and houseboats, these rules do not apply. However, "It (the covenant) applies to the entirety of the continent, top to bottom, left to right, side to side and all around." Perhaps this needs to be put into the covenant spelled out in explicit terms like this, but I think they're more worried about building homes to stop and add every possible commercial scenario to it. Maybe after the demand dies down a bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animats Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 OK. I just removed my free motorcycle rezzer, installed the day Bellesaria opened, to be fully compliant. Back then, there were no rez zones and no way to get around, so it was needed and used. Now there are enough rez zones. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blush Bravin Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Matty Luminos said: However, it makes me wonder, as this section of the Covenant refers only to use of the home and boat parcels but it doesn't mention activity in public, Linden-owned spaces within Bellisseria, such as the public pools, parks, Campwich Lodge etc. Residents can't rez in those areas anyway. So the covenant doesn't need to address rezzing in public spaces. Unless you're supposing that someone is going to use one of the rez zones used for transportation to rez a vendor of some kind. Edited October 20, 2019 by Blush Bravin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blush Bravin Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 minute ago, animats said: OK. I just removed my free motorcycle rezzer, installed the day Bellesaria opened, to be fully compliant. Back then, there were no rez zones and no way to get around, so it was needed and used. Now there are enough rez zones. Why would you need to remove it? The person rezzing a motorcycle isn't paying for it! That's not commerce. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Macbain Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Blush Bravin said: Residents can't rez in those areas anyway. So the covenant doesn't need to address rezzing in public spaces. I think this also includes, though, things like DJs that don't have tip jars out asking for tips to be paid directly to them. Or, you know, a hooker doing some solicitation... lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blush Bravin Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Beth Macbain said: I think this also includes, though, things like DJs that don't have tip jars out asking for tips to be paid directly to them. Or, you know, a hooker doing some solicitation... lol! True, you can always pay someone's head. LOL .. that could be misconstrued. But you know what I mean. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMe Jewell Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 On 10/20/2019 at 3:51 AM, Matty Luminos said: I know it's there now, but I'm pretty certain it wasn't there before. I know it was intended to be, I think it was just forgotten, and added in later. Anyway, I am glad it's there now, and very clear. The covenant went through a few modifications, and there was a period of time, right after the Security changes were added, that some/all of the Commercial stuff got accidentally dropped out. When it was mentioned here in the forums, then it got put back in, along with more details than was originally there. I think I now have 3 versions of the Covenant saved. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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