Logging of public chat

[Fern Eyre]

Is this against ToS to send someone a log of something that occurred in public chat?

[Wildcat Furse]

YES *meows*

[Fern Eyre]

i've since spoken to a Linden on this topic and it turns out that only logging Private chat is against ToS,  since anyone can read public chat.

[Qwalyphi Korpov]

The resident who provided the previous content, if any, has replaced it with this generic statement.

[Fern Eyre]

basically what i mean is,  if someone sends someone else an except of something that happened in "Local Chat" to someone else.  The way i see it is if you say something in public chat then it is no longer private information since anyone within chat range can read it.  

 

 

[Wildcat Furse]

The way I see it .... if some people are chatting and I am somewhere 'accidentally' in their chat range (while I am having a go about Lindenlabs to one of my friends^^) .... don't think I will be so happy to find out later that I am banned because someone 'accidentally' logged my chitchat .... *meows*

[Fern Eyre]

if say something that is against ToS in local chat and are then banned because who ever heard it reported you and Linden Lab's investigation confirmed the report then you should get banned imo :-P 

 

Either way I am just trying to get my facts straight

[Wildcat Furse]

'logging' is not my best friend ..... *meows*

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[Peewee Musytari]

 

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Wildcat Furse wrote:

The way I see it .... if some people are chatting and I am somewhere 'accidentally' in their chat range (while I am having a go about Lindenlabs to one of my friends^^) .... don't think I will be so happy to find out later that I am banned because someone 'accidentally' logged my chitchat .... *meows*

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Lindens hear all, they don`t need logs sent to them, they could be standing right next to you invisible and you wouldn`t know it...You should do your dissing in IM with encryption switched on LOL

 

[Wildcat Furse]

YEP ....... *meows*

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[Pussycat Catnap]

I was once even told by a Linden that it was against ToS for me to send a log to a Linden. In that case, I was sending the log to that very linden because in the log I had people suggesting I ask him for advice on a matter and I just sent the log so he could see what it was I wanted advice on.

 

[Dana Kosrae]

I understand that sharing IM logs violates the TOS.  What I wonder is why.  If I send someone a letter or email in RL, it belongs to him to do with as he pleases.  If I have IMs sent to email, can I publish them, since they are no lionger in SL?

In some US states it is legal for one party to a telephone conversation to record it without the others' knowledge.  The recording belongs to him to do with as he wishes.  It's always seemed strange to me that the virtual world had more restrictions on this sort of thing than the real world.

[Dresden Ceriano]

 

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Dana Kosrae wrote:

I understand that sharing IM logs violates the TOS.  What I wonder is why.  If I send someone a letter or email in RL, it belongs to him to do with as he pleases.  If I have IMs sent to email, can I publish them, since they are no lionger in SL?

In some US states it is legal for one party to a telephone conversation to record it without the others' knowledge.

 The recording belongs to him to do with as he wishes.  It's always seemed strange to me that the virtual world had more restrictions on this sort of thing than the real world.

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Not in California, and since LL is based in California, their TOS could have been written to correspond with that law; though it's, admittedly, not really the same.

If you think of IMs as private conversations, this makes sense. If, on the other hand, you think of IMs as email, then you might feel differently. I'd go with the former in regards to that.

If I understand the TOS correctly (if not, I'm sure someone will correct me), LL can't do anything about you sharing or, as you said, publishing IM chat outside of SL. Though, still, I don't think it's a very good idea, unless you feel like dealing with the drama that doing something like that would inevitably cause.

...Dres