Madelaine McMasters 25,361 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, Blush Bravin said: I just remember the mother of a boyfriend who immigrated from the Netherlands saying, "Holland is so much more than wooden shoes and tulips." That has always stuck with me. During our belated honeymoon vacation to Europe in 1993, we greatly enjoyed The Netherlands. The young desk receptionist at Hotel Coen in Delft was hilarious, as was the waiter who served us dinner in The Hague. A colleague of mine was from Amsterdam and very funny, so I had high hopes. The Dutch did not disappoint. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Zeta Vandyke 17,341 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 38 minutes ago, Blush Bravin said: "Holland is so much more than wooden shoes and tulips." That's the first line we teach at Indoctrination Camp that every immigrant has to participate in... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
libbberamente 23 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 thanks for the answer 👽 Link to post Share on other sites
Lureo 43 Posted April 5, 2019 Author Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) I didn't read all posts but... I read things about Texas about California about native american (indians) etc... and there is no americans here. No SL is not american (us). No no no !!! Edited April 5, 2019 by Lureo 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Selene Gregoire 10,268 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Lureo said: I didn't read all posts but... I read things about Texas about California about native american (indians) etc... and there is no americans here. No SL is not american (us). No no no !!! You're wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
Lureo 43 Posted April 5, 2019 Author Share Posted April 5, 2019 24 minutes ago, Selene Gregoire said: You're wrong. Nice to hear. thank you Link to post Share on other sites
Selene Gregoire 10,268 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Lureo said: Nice to hear. thank you You're welcome. Link to post Share on other sites
Bitsy Buccaneer 2,746 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 On 4/4/2019 at 2:21 PM, Alyona Su said: A Holloween outfit of a pirate or faerie etc. is a "costume". No no no, that's fancy dress. Costumes are for swimming. Sheesh. Link to post Share on other sites
Alyona Su 10,701 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 41 minutes ago, Bitsy Buccaneer said: No no no, that's fancy dress. Costumes are for swimming. Sheesh. Hahaha! Yessss. Wait, wot about birfdaysuits? Link to post Share on other sites
Rolig Loon 26,937 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Alyona Su said: 43 minutes ago, Bitsy Buccaneer said: No no no, that's fancy dress. Costumes are for swimming. Sheesh. Hahaha! Yessss. Wait, wot about birfdaysuits? Well..... swimmers only wear bathing costumes in the UK. In the U.S., we wear bathing suits (or our birthday suits), unless we're swimming in some sort of nautical pageant, I suppose. Then we might wear a costume. Maybe. 🤔 Link to post Share on other sites
Alyona Su 10,701 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, Rolig Loon said: Well..... swimmers only wear bathing costumes in the UK. In the U.S., we wear bathing suits (or our birthday suits), unless we're swimming in some sort of nautical pageant, I suppose. Then we might wear a costume. Maybe. 🤔 I get it with "Turn about" and not "turn around" and I get it with "boot" versus "trunk" and things, but a swimsuit being a "costume"!? Hahaha. And I thought only Americans were bastardizing the language. ~laffs~ Link to post Share on other sites
Selene Gregoire 10,268 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Bitsy Buccaneer said: No no no, that's fancy dress. Costumes are for swimming. Sheesh. We've got fancy dress covered. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Bitsy Buccaneer 2,746 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Alyona Su said: I get it with "Turn about" and not "turn around" and I get it with "boot" versus "trunk" and things, but a swimsuit being a "costume"!? Hahaha. And I thought only Americans were bastardizing the language. ~laffs~ It's more antiquated than bastardisation though, as we know it was in use by 1715. I wonder if anyone's looked into why this sense has had greater longevity for swimwear than other dress. This older usage would be appropriate for ceremonial regalia and without any sense of derogation. If this older meaning has survived better in other languages, it could easily lead to misunderstandings like the one earlier. Language can be tricky like that. Quote 1715, "style of dress," but also more broadly "custom or usage with respect to place and time, as represented in art or literature; distinctive action, appearance, arms, furniture, etc.," from French costume (17c.), from Italian costume "fashion, habit," from Latin consuetudinem (nominative consuetudo) "custom, habit, usage." Essentially the same word as custom but arriving by a different path. It originally was an art term, referring to congruity in representation. From "customary clothes of the particular period in which the scene is laid," the meaning broadened by 1818 to "any defined mode of dress, external dress." Costume jewelry, made to be worn as an accessory to fashionable costume, is attested by 1917. Related: Costumic. https://www.etymonline.com/word/costume#etymonline_v_19135 Edited April 5, 2019 by Bitsy Buccaneer add url Link to post Share on other sites
Bitsy Buccaneer 2,746 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) "Fancy" is even older, or to put it more accurately, our earliest surviving attestation is older . Quote fancy (n.) mid-15c., fantsy "inclination, liking," contraction of fantasy. It took the older and longer word's sense of "inclination, whim, desire." Meaning "the productive imagination" is from 1580s. That of "a fanciful image or conception" is from 1660s. Meaning "fans of an amusement or sport, collectively" is attested by 1735, especially (though not originally) of the prize ring. The adjective is recorded from 1751 in the sense "fine, elegant, ornamental" (opposed to plain); later as "involving fancy, of a fanciful nature" (1800). Fancy man attested by 1811. fancy (v.) "take a liking to," 1540s, a contraction of fantasien "to fantasize (about)," from fantasy (n.). Meaning "imagine" is from 1550s. Related: Fancied; fancies; fancying. Colloquial use in fancy that, etc. is recorded by 1813. https://www.etymonline.com/word/fancy#etymonline_v_1114 In the UK, "fancy dress" and "fancying" someone are very much still in use today. Edited April 5, 2019 by Bitsy Buccaneer 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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