miranda Sapphire Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Just a curious question here. My store is called Basically Bratty Kids but I also create for adults too but every time I try and put something on my MP for the adults, someone flags it even though there's nothing about it that's vulgar or anything. I don't understand why my adult products are being flagged. Does it HAVE to be listed under the adult rating? I thought that was for stuff that was made with vulgar stuff on it. I've had simple shirts with just a floral pattern on it flagged. No writing, pictures or anything, jut a floral print. Can someone please help me with this because i'm beating my head against the wall and it kinda feels like someone is intentionally doing this just because they have it in for me. Oh yeah, here's my MP link. Basically Bratty Kids Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chic Aeon Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Well it certainly could be a competitor (been there done that). Do you know what they are flagging it as? Is there any chance in the keywords you forgot and left tags like "kids" or "children's" or such? If so, then they could certainly complain about that if it comes up in search under kids. If it comes up in search under kids because of your store name --- I'm not sure how you could handle that. It is a problem with the marketplace that only one store per avatar thing. Who wants trees in with skins in with kitty tails ? LOL. Messy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwin Alcott Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 6 hours ago, miranda Sapphire said: Just a curious question here. My store is called Basically Bratty Kids but I also create for adults too but every time I try and put something on my MP for the adults, someone flags it even though there's nothing about it that's vulgar or anything. I don't understand why my adult products are being flagged. Does it HAVE to be listed under the adult rating? I thought that was for stuff that was made with vulgar stuff on it. I've had simple shirts with just a floral pattern on it flagged. No writing, pictures or anything, jut a floral print. Can someone please help me with this because i'm beating my head against the wall and it kinda feels like someone is intentionally doing this just because they have it in for me. Oh yeah, here's my MP link. Basically Bratty Kids Thank you! did check some of your items but dont see a really bad keyword use on the things i seen. Other people might think different of course. Try to have your keywords as close and relevant possible to the item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Dakota Linden Posted October 10, 2017 Moderators Share Posted October 10, 2017 Hello miranda Sapphire, Flagging has no effect on an item, in and of itself. A Linden Lab employee reviews the flag, and if they agree with the report, only then will action be taken against the listing. When an item is unlisted as the result of a flag report, you should receive 2 notifications. 1 is shown to you the next time you log into the Marketplace web site and must be acknowledged before you can continue on the site. The second is an email sent to the email address on file for your Second Life account as long as you have that setting enabled for Marketplace notifications. The email should contain more information along with a link to the listing itself. If you are still unsure why the item was unlisted, you should create a Support Case for Marketplace - Marketplace Listing issues, and provide us with the direct link to the item and the stated reason for it being unlisted. We are very happy to look into the unlisting further to help you understand why action was taken against the listing. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassy Romano Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 3 hours ago, Dakota Linden said: A Linden Lab employee reviews the flag, and if they agree with the report, only then will action be taken against the listing. We are very happy to look into the unlisting further to help you understand why action was taken against the listing. Dog...bone...SASSY!!! Hi Dakota, you just waved that red rag there and in the case of the above, i'll refer you to Case: 01707000 That case number indicates that the first sentence above is NOT always true, staff/agents have in the past delisted items which are wholly compliant with the listing policy. The second sentence has so far proved to be true. Next time, it's the cane for you ok?! (or a bird cage) 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miranda Sapphire Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 Thank you for your replies everyone, I will pay better close attention when listing my items. I'm still a little confused but that's how my life is I guess lol My 1 question is.... Does ALL adult products need to be listed under Adult rating? I believe that's where i'm getting flagged. I forget what the flaggings said but if I'm not mistaken, that's what what it was about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassy Romano Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Yes, all products that meet the criteria for adult need to be set as such, otherwise they wouldn't be adult rated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunniHope Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 there is also a very useful link right inline with the maturity rating settings on the product listing page giving info for the why's what for's and when's of when a product meets a certain rating. Just right click and open in new tab when doing your listing's to have it easily to hand for reminders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake1 Nightfire Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 3 hours ago, Sassy Romano said: Yes, all products that meet the criteria for adult need to be set as such, otherwise they wouldn't be adult rated. I think she means "do products for adult sized avs need to be listed as adult", IE a dress or T-shirt sized for adult avs, Maitreya, Slink, Adam or what not. In that case the answer is a resounding NO. Unless your items contain R or X rated things then they do not have to be listed as "Adult." 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake1 Nightfire Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 On 10/9/2017 at 9:10 PM, miranda Sapphire said: Just a curious question here. My store is called Basically Bratty Kids but I also create for adults too but every time I try and put something on my MP for the adults, someone flags it even though there's nothing about it that's vulgar or anything. I don't understand why my adult products are being flagged. Does it HAVE to be listed under the adult rating? I thought that was for stuff that was made with vulgar stuff on it. I've had simple shirts with just a floral pattern on it flagged. No writing, pictures or anything, jut a floral print. Can someone please help me with this because i'm beating my head against the wall and it kinda feels like someone is intentionally doing this just because they have it in for me. Oh yeah, here's my MP link. Basically Bratty Kids Thank you! Going by one of your items.. Adults lounging Snow Leopard (Box) you have some keywords that could easily be considered spam.. Keywords: leopard, lion, tiger, chair, couch, animation, animated, poses, pose, mesh, cat, cats, wild, animal, animals, kajera, adult, adults, parents, furniture I highlighted them in blue. Is it a leopard, lion or tiger? It's not a chair nor an animation. It's one cat, then 3 descriptor words which dont belong in keywords. Has nothing to do with a kajira (which is the correct spelling) Nor is it adult for adults only or parents. and Furniture is a category. So, these could be some of the reasons why your items were flagged and pulled. Not trying to be an ash, but just helping. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassy Romano Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 58 minutes ago, Drake1 Nightfire said: I think she means "do products for adult sized avs need to be listed as adult", IE a dress or T-shirt sized for adult avs, Maitreya, Slink, Adam or what not. In that case the answer is a resounding NO. Unless your items contain R or X rated things then they do not have to be listed as "Adult." Oh ok in that case yes. I agree that the list of keywords would be classed as keyword stuffing spam though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito Pelazzi Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 yep ..its either your competition, or someone you have peeved off in sl .some ppl have far too much time on their hands .and of cause there are these useless trolls that obviously spend hrs on mp just to p..off creators because they either don't have the talent ,or the inclination to create something useful themselves.jealousy sadly is a curse apparently fair go doesn't exist in sl .its useless to complain abt that to LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Dakota Linden Posted December 14, 2018 Moderators Share Posted December 14, 2018 Greetings! Please be mindful when replying to Forum threads. This thread has had no activity since October 2017. Any user may flag a product listing on the Second Life Marketplace, and if the report is valid, the item will be unlisted to allow the seller to correct the issue. The best, and only, way to keep items that you sell from being unlisted is to ensure that they comply with the Marketplace Listing Guidelines, located here: https://marketplace.secondlife.com/listing_guidelines As long as the item complies with the Listing Guidelines, it will not matter who flags the item, or why, it will not be unlisted. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyrah Abattoir Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 On 12/14/2018 at 11:07 PM, carlito Pelazzi said: yep ..its either your competition, or someone you have peeved off in sl .some ppl have far too much time on their hands .and of cause there are these useless trolls that obviously spend hrs on mp just to p..off creators because they either don't have the talent ,or the inclination to create something useful themselves.jealousy sadly is a curse apparently fair go doesn't exist in sl .its useless to complain abt that to LL Or simply someone who wants to browse the marketplace properly. I typically flag for keyword spam when my searches keep pulling out products that are completely unrelated to the keywords I used. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamyourneighbour Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I am sure adult products needs to be labelled adult you don't put a slab of pork up for sale and call that vegetable just saying 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionalein Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 @Dakota Linden can we rename this thread into "constant necroing" please *makes puppy face* 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvina Ewing Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) On 12/15/2018 at 12:24 AM, Dakota Linden said: Greetings! Please be mindful when replying to Forum threads. This thread has had no activity since October 2017. Any user may flag a product listing on the Second Life Marketplace, and if the report is valid, the item will be unlisted to allow the seller to correct the issue. The best, and only, way to keep items that you sell from being unlisted is to ensure that they comply with the Marketplace Listing Guidelines, located here: https://marketplace.secondlife.com/listing_guidelines As long as the item complies with the Listing Guidelines, it will not matter who flags the item, or why, it will not be unlisted. One of my items have just been flagged and unlisted for Item Not As Advertised - Item Permissions Not As Advertised. And the item in question is... a Demo!!! The permissions in the listing are not set at all, so they are showing as no mod, no copy, no trans. All my demos listings are set up like that, as i would think that every noob in SL knows that you can't do anything with demos other than check it out. What is wrong with that? How am i supposed to correct the issue? Where is sense in that? PS. i did necro this thread, for the sake of quoting Dakota Edited March 6, 2019 by Elvina Ewing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake1 Nightfire Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 40 minutes ago, Elvina Ewing said: One of my items have just been flagged and unlisted for Item Not As Advertised - Item Permissions Not As Advertised. And the item in question is... a Demo!!! The permissions in the listing are not set at all, so they are showing as no mod, no copy, no trans. All my demos listings are set up like that, as i would think that every noob in SL knows that you can't do anything with demos other than check it out. What is wrong with that? How am i supposed to correct the issue? Where is sense in that? PS. i did necro this thread, for the sake of quoting Dakota You may have them set as no mod, no copy and no transfer but the item is indeed transferable, so flagging it for incorrect perms would be correct.. Silly and nit picky i admit, but following the letter of the guidelines... I wouldn't flag a demo for that. But an easy fix, just bulk mod your demos to be no copy, no mod, yes transfer perms on the MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvina Ewing Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 the reason i do that is because i personally believe the demos should have no perms at all. At least that is how i would have liked my demos. No mod, no copy, no trans. But due to SL perms system if you uncheck "copy" the item will automatically become "transfer". I however wouldn't like people passing around my demos, and if i could i would have set them to no mod, no copy, no trans. So, i feel that by enabling the actually showing SL permissions in my listing as no mod, no copy, yes trans i am in a way giving free light to people to pass demos around, and i wouldn't like that. It is sad that there are people who have no better things to do with their life than flagging a demo for incorrect permissions. It is in a way a kind of anti-social behaviour, because by unlisting the demo they have denied other customers the possibility to try out this demo for the whole 12 hours... It is even more ridiculous that LL will unlist a demo for actually having more perms than is listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradford Mint Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 The bottom line is that it is more likely that the LL staff member didn't bother checking or activating a brain cell because as you rightly suggest, few people would complain about extra permissions and especially for a demo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake1 Nightfire Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Whether or not it is ridiculous to flag a demo for incorrect permissions, in this case it is indeed with the standards for flagging. The permissions are NOT what is listed. It doesn't matter what we think, they followed the rules. If you don't want them to flag more items, i would suggest you change the listed perms. 4 hours ago, Elvina Ewing said: i know that, thanks. The way i always did it has not been a problem before, it is not going to become one now, after some poor soul with no life flagged a demo for having more perms than is shown. I certainly can think of 100 more useful things to do and efficient ways to spend my time than making dead sure all demos are truly no trans and no copy. It is also not really a problem if people do pass around a demo, i just don't want to encourage them doing so. I posted this story here just to share how petty some people can be, and how ridiculous LL can be for unlisting a demo for having more perms than is shown. Because otherwise what, somebody might decide not to get the demo if it has more perms than is listed? It was unlisted for having DIFFERENT permissions than what s show, not more. All they have to do is follow the letter of the guidelines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Dakota Linden Posted March 7, 2019 Moderators Share Posted March 7, 2019 Greetings all! If the permissions shown on the Item Listing do not match the permissions on the actual item, then yes, that item IS in violation of the Marketplace Listing Guidelines for being incorrectly listed permissions and the item will be unlisted if reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blush Bravin Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Elvina Ewing said: and how ridiculous LL can be for unlisting a demo Not ridiculous at all. It complies with the same permission system we all are used to using. 3 minutes ago, Elvina Ewing said: Why do i need to explain myself to you? Which part of personal preference you don't understand? You posted and expect no one to respond unless they agree with you? Personal preference doesn't have any place in the known permissions used in SL. That's like saying I don't like that 2+2=4. I prefer it be 2+2=10. You can prefer it but that's not going to change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Dakota Linden Posted March 8, 2019 Moderators Share Posted March 8, 2019 Greetings! This thread has gone so far Off Topic and Hijacked that we have had to remove a LOT of posts. If you wish to discuss the Second Life Permissions System, or Marketplace Features/Functions, please create a separate thread for those topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradford Mint Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Remind me to go and report every other thread that goes off topic. I'll expect all off topic posts to be removed from those too! Precedent set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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