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Then don't do ***** to get laughed at, 100 lindens is beyond insulting- save the peanuts for chimps at the zoo not working women!

I don't even give begging, homeless people on the street 40 damn cents! 

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4 hours ago, MoiraOBusty said:

Then don't do ***** to get laughed at, 100 lindens is beyond insulting- save the peanuts for chimps at the zoo not working women!

I don't even give begging, homeless people on the street 40 damn cents! 

I can never help converting the amounts into RL and thinking how insulting they still are. I earned more as an RL student toilet cleaner than the standard market rates on SL, and I didn't have to waste any time touting for business without earning.

I think this might be one reason why the "be paid for sex" kink never really did it for me. There are numerous RL reasons, which I won't bore anyone with, but there's also the problem that I always imagine what this amount of cash would actually come to and still feel a bit offended. £5,000 a night? That's half of my aunt's loft extension. That's what I'm worth, half a loft extension that I don't even like very much. Thanks. 

I don't even know why I find this insulting because it's not as though I'm Anne Hathaway in RL more like Ann Widdecombe, without the politics. There's really no reason for it. Still, half a crap loft extension. Even a full crap loft extension. I think I'd rather just fling it around for free with people who are going to take trouble to make me enjoy the experience.

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9 hours ago, Amina Sopwith said:

I can never help converting the amounts into RL and thinking how insulting they still are. I earned more as an RL student toilet cleaner than the standard market rates on SL, and I didn't have to waste any time touting for business without earning.

yes.  Any kind of interactive person-to-person(s) service is under valued in SL. Theatre, club and live music performers have the same issue. The time:value ratio in the RL is a lot higher. And we do have to deal with this when performing these services in SL.  Most people who are serious about this use SL as a channel to their RL provided service. Their jasmins, their gigs, their music recordings, theatre booking office, etc

a howto deal with it:

random patron: hi doll, how much ?
professional: 25,000L$ for 30 minutes
random patron: i only have 100L
professional: that's ok babe, connect with me again when you are in better position
random patron: you sure?
professional: yes I am sure
random patron: damn!
professional: alright then. You have a good rest of your evening
random patron: before I go what would I get for 25,000?
professional: a link to my jasmin. We can do it on there and on here at the same time
random patron: what about SL voice only ?
professional: well you are not going that for 1OOL unless you get really lucky and find some lady who is doing it on here for fun
random patron: where would I find them ?
professional: I will drop some LMs on you to help get you started
random patron: thanks!
professional: you welcome. I have to go now. You take care and be happy
random patron: you too. Thanks for your help! You are nice
professional: thank you! ciao! bye for now

 

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I went to one of the shemale clubs and felt like chum in the water with sharks closing in.  One of them IM me and asked me if i wanted sex And i said yes then then she indicated I needed to tip her.  I laughed at her and she said i needed to go down to a nude beach if i wanted free sex.   I wasnt going in for free sex.  I was just looking

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1 hour ago, StrykerHawk said:

I went to one of the shemale clubs and felt like chum in the water with sharks closing in.  One of them IM me and asked me if i wanted sex And i said yes then then she indicated I needed to tip her.  I laughed at her and she said i needed to go down to a nude beach if i wanted free sex.   I wasnt going in for free sex.  I was just looking

I have went in as a male and had similar experiences but returned with a tgirl alt and nail the dancers and escorts without paying anything. 

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I have walked into a club and it was like an onslaught of IMs.   Or the sex workers...errr..escorts  ask me if i want to go have sex then get mad when i say I have no money or beg for tips. I dont tip.  I sit right there at the end of my night watches the girls...do what I need to do in RL...then bang I log

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If they sit in a chair, are they expected to tip? You aren't expected to tip as soon as you sit down, but if you are spending a significant amount of time in the club without tipping at all, then that is considered poor form. The girls are working hard to entertain you and deserve something for their time.

How often should they tip?  What factors might affect it? You don't need to tip like crazy (unless that's your thing) but a tip every couple hours or so is a good start. It also really depends on how much you have in your wallet! Generally the girls that get the most tips are the ones that do voice/text escort services, and they expect big tips for their work. Dancers generally are there to strip and look pretty, act as "eye candy" if you will - so they don't make quite as much. But as a general rule of thumb, you should always tip no matter what the girl does.

Is there a guideline for how much the tips should be? Most if not all clubs have standard rate guidelines posted somewhere in the club. The base rate for stripping at almost every place I've worked at or visited is $500L to get a girl topless, and $1000L to get her nude. Lapdances and stage-side cuddles cost extra on top of that. Anything beyond that is up to the girl's discretion depending on how much they charge for specific services.

What are some tipping pet peeves that really upset you? The big thing that upsets me the most as a Dancer is the guys that come in expecting freebies and not wanting to tip in the first place. Like, if you're there at a club to get a pretty lady to play with you, you have to pay for services. That's the rule and there's no way around it. I also really hate the arrogant types who throw in 1L and act like they're doing the girls a favor. Like, ***** off with that *****. Seriously. The other thing I hate beyond all reason is a guy that comes in for two seconds, gets greeted by a girl, and then the guy leaves.

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I think that people just need to recognize the difference between different kinds of venues and whats expected of the customer to do.

There are lots of places where tipping would be entirely optional and nobody would care if you didnt, just places to have a good time and chill. But then there are places that have a more... difficult to word, serious and detailed? atmosphere to them. Youre getting arguably professional RP and people who have trained for entertainment and know what theyre doing. Places like that are where its pretty much expected that you tip in some form, either on an individual basis or a big tip jar or whatever.

Personally i just dont value my virtual money at all. 1000 L$ is what, 4 USD? That aint much of anything. I have no issues dropping 20 bucks out of my irl pocket for going to a virtual club with friends. Even if im not really partaking in anything or whatever, even if its just tipping DJ's and afk strippers, idk why people stress Lindens so much. Its cheaper for me to play for 4-5 hours and dump 5k L$ with my friends than to get pizza hut and an amazon rental movie. Then again maybe thats privilege to having a large expendable income and free time.

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On 3/5/2019 at 10:50 AM, Wayne Langer said:

About me - I always tip when in a chair and I try to keep the tips at a steady rate.  I use the tip jar suggestions as a guideline, if the suggested tips are very high I won't even sit down as I know they are out of my price range.  I use my conversation with the dancer to determine the tips, the more they talk the more I tip. If the conversation isn't happening, I move on to free up the chair for someone that just wants to look.  Let me know if I am totally off with my thought process.  

It has been a long time since I was involved in that scene, but a long time ago I DJ'd in clubs.  One thing you learn is that typically, each typist is running as many avatars as they can handle.  Back then, it wasn't practical to run more than two visible viewers, but even then you could run a half dozen on a text-based viewer (Radegast is the current leading text viewer; see http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Third_Party_Viewer_Directory).  In that way, they make the club look more hopping than it really is, and if you notice that only one of the girls is really making conversation, it's just because that's the window that the typist has decided to work you out of.  I always figured that the new sleeping beauty type places would put them out of business, as men are more visual and don't care about the typing so much.  Anyway, whatever floats your boat.  

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Oh, I should add.  That big tipper is probably an alt of the dancer(s) he's tipping.  Just shuffling L$ from one alt to another.  

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