NiranV Dean Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Just now, Solar Legion said: While I will rather firmly state to anyone who asks that it is far better to not edit a snapshot unless you're looking to enter a contest or looking for Flickr/Social media Brownie Points (useless things that they are), I'll also rather firmly state that if your stance is that no edits should ever be done or that an edit is always obvious ... Well you're simply wrong and haven't a singular clue. A well made edit requires that you have access to the original image to tell that it was edited. If you - the final observer - cannot tell it is edited without being able to see the original, the edit was properly done. Beginning and end of story. Which means 2 things: A) There are no good edits, because so far i could always tell edited pictures from non-edited pictures. B) I must be some kind of god (or a hacker) because i can tell whether a picture is edited without seeing the original (or if i'm a hacker probably stole the original somehow) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orwar Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 I do edit most of my shots to some extent, but I'd rather spend 5 minutes extra in SL to set it up properly than sitting in Gimp for 2 hours trying to correct things by hand and getting a result which generally feels 'off'. I think that the whole 'no edits' elitist attitude is as detrimental to a person who's just getting into SL, as the 'five-filter-minimum' shenanigans a large portion of the SL bloggers do for no good reason. To say that only one or the other is art, and that everything else is trash, is just pointless and opinionated. Let people do whatever they want, if you don't like their stuff, fair do's - but what a bloody boring world we'd live in if everyone only did the same thing and had the same taste. If real life, professional photographers use touch-ups and cropping, why should we set the bar higher for happy amateurs? That said, hip-hop, rap and jazz still ain't music. 😡 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiranV Dean Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Orwar said: I do edit most of my shots to some extent, but I'd rather spend 5 minutes extra in SL to set it up properly than sitting in Gimp for 2 hours trying to correct things by hand and getting a result which generally feels 'off'. I think that the whole 'no edits' elitist attitude is as detrimental to a person who's just getting into SL, as the 'five-filter-minimum' shenanigans a large portion of the SL bloggers do for no good reason. To say that only one or the other is art, and that everything else is trash, is just pointless and opinionated. Let people do whatever they want, if you don't like their stuff, fair do's - but what a bloody boring world we'd live in if everyone only did the same thing and had the same taste. If real life, professional photographers use touch-ups and cropping, why should we set the bar higher for happy amateurs? That said, hip-hop, rap and jazz still ain't music. 😡 What about Snakejazz? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orwar Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 minute ago, NiranV Dean said: What about Snakejazz? Googles. ... ... Puts playback speed to x2. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Orwar said: That said, hip-hop, rap and jazz still ain't music. 😡 Heathen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanova Shostakovich Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Drivers who, if they even bother to activate a turn signal, use it as a device with which to abide by the laws, instead of actually using it to let people know what they're going to do, before they actually do it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyona Su Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Orwar said: I do edit most of my shots to some extent, but I'd rather spend 5 minutes extra in SL to set it up properly than sitting in Gimp for 2 hours trying to correct things by hand and getting a result which generally feels 'off'. I think that the whole 'no edits' elitist attitude is as detrimental to a person who's just getting into SL, as the 'five-filter-minimum' shenanigans a large portion of the SL bloggers do for no good reason. To say that only one or the other is art, and that everything else is trash, is just pointless and opinionated. Let people do whatever they want, if you don't like their stuff, fair do's - but what a bloody boring world we'd live in if everyone only did the same thing and had the same taste. If real life, professional photographers use touch-ups and cropping, why should we set the bar higher for happy amateurs? That said, hip-hop, rap and jazz still ain't music. 😡 Blasphemer. 28 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said: Heathen. Heretic. Music is that which most call classical, a.k.a. Composed and orchestrated, i. e. Beethoven. The rest is just white-noise. Hahahaha! Edited February 8, 2020 by Alyona Su Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anilyse7 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Mob mentality, lack of intellect and narcissistic immaturity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashlyn Voir Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 15 hours ago, NiranV Dean said: And here you delivered the ultimate reason why post editing in SL is not good. You simply cannot create a picture that is impossible to decipher as edited, someone will always be able to tell that your picture has been edited if it is simply because of the reasons i named. Second Life and how it looks, with all its quirks and bugs is unique, if you change anything in the picture post you are changing and/or removing these quirks thus you make it visible that you edited the picture. The only picture that would be impossible to tell apart is a picture that simply wasn't edited at all and if you want to make a "less-is-more" picture that doesn't reveal that it is edited then you simply not edit it at all. Further, if you were to create a picture that is edited that is impossible to tell that it was indeed edited, it would raise the question why you edited it at all since you cannot see the edit, thus the edit not being important thus making the edit obsolete in the first place. Just like adding graphic effects that you don't see. You don't add projector shadows if there aren't any projectors to cast a shadow, it would raise the question whether using projectors was necessary (which it wasn't since you don't see them). For an edit to be useful, it needs to be visible, otherwise its a pointless edit, if an edit is visible, it is possible to pinpoint it and tell the picture apart from non-edited pictures. This applies to many things, not just editing pictures or graphics in general, its the same with basically anything, i mean you don't put something in your food that doesn't do anything just so its there, right? I don't understand how editing a picture of an animated pixelated character on some silly virtual game is considered cheating. Enhancing something doesn't make it any less bad than not. I dunno why everyone on this forum has an issue with people editing photos. It's just Second Life. Lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceka Cianci Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) Stores that give you a 30k rendering cost warning with a timer that will boot you,when you are there wearing clothes you bought from there and back to shop for more.. But never again.. Edited February 9, 2020 by Ceka Cianci 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orwar Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Ceka Cianci said: Stores that give you a 30k rendering cost warning "Your avatar complexity is 23,221. You may not be rendered by more than half the people in the region." Looks around my currently empty neighborhood. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amina Sopwith Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 The limit on new posts within a certain time frame is annoying when you're hopping between the word games. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
So Whimsy Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 4 hours ago, Amina Sopwith said: The limit on new posts within a certain time frame is annoying when you're hopping between the word games. I know right? Let us play in peace >.< 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleMe Jewell Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 7 hours ago, Amina Sopwith said: The limit on new posts within a certain time frame is annoying when you're hopping between the word games. The limit is a PITA when you are catching up on a thread. I don't always want to combine replies to multiple quotes all in the same post, but have to wait that minute before the next reply. And more of a PITA is that a reply to a thread in the forums will also prevent me from sending a PM to someone until a minute has passed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amina Sopwith Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Sometimes I accidentally tap on someone's icon and get taken to their profile by mistake. It's not usually an issue but occasionally it happens with someone on whose "recent visitors" list I really do not wish to appear. I also wish the "now viewing" function didn't exist. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Rhiadra Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 42 minutes ago, Amina Sopwith said: Sometimes I accidentally tap on someone's icon and get taken to their profile by mistake. It's not usually an issue but occasionally it happens with someone on whose "recent visitors" list I really do not wish to appear. I also wish the "now viewing" function didn't exist. Yes! This happens to me all the time. Grrr! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindy Evanier Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 52 minutes ago, Amina Sopwith said: Sometimes I accidentally tap on someone's icon and get taken to their profile by mistake. It's not usually an issue but occasionally it happens with someone on whose "recent visitors" list I really do not wish to appear. haha I do that all the time. Don't think you are special people, I just have a sensitive mouse pad on this lappy 😂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 11 hours ago, Amina Sopwith said: The limit on new posts within a certain time frame is annoying when you're hopping between the word games. I think it was instituted as a defense against the flood of spam that ruined the forums for quite some time and was very difficult to stop. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprout Evergarden Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 this will sound bad but to me a photoshoped image screams "look i can afford Photoshop or I have a bit torrent installed" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garnet Psaltery Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 You're all being very careful not to look at my profile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindy Evanier Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Just now, Garnet Psaltery said: You're all being very careful not to look at my profile 😘 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garnet Psaltery Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Cindy Evanier said: 😘 I peeked at yours but I didn't know what to look for. It's got a colourful banner at the top, which is nice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 25 minutes ago, Atosuria Daviau said: this will sound bad but to me a photoshoped image screams "look i can afford Photoshop or I have a bit torrent installed" Or it screams Look I use Gimp which is free and which I prefer to PS. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinos Field Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) A major one: Groups that don't allow you to post links. Especially so if it's a creator group, someone asks where to get a product by that creator, I link it and some helpful moderator chimes in like "please don't post links in chat". Okay, I'm sorry for daring to help someone send you money. SL in general desperately needs fewer cargo cult rules that serve absolutely no purpose. I assume the idea is to avoid phishing links, but then you could just forbid those. Because if a moderator is actively watching the chat, they can be selective. If not, those phishing links will still get posted. Edited February 9, 2020 by Cinos Field 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Macbain Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 People who judge photos (or photographers) based on whether they edit/don't edit/use PS/GIMP/a golf pencil/a piece of poo/etc. instead of just enjoying a photo or scrolling past it and/or unfollowing the person. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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