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31 minutes ago, Drake1 Nightfire said:

Please define generous

As I have said before, I have no interest in draining anyone's bank account or putting anyone's well-being in jeopardy - it would depend on the person and their means, but anything below 20,000 lindens weekly seems more like a client to me and less like a sugar parent like. 

I know too few people in this lifestyle (on Second Life, I mean) and none of them seemed impressed with my cut-off rate, as they see double that as barely adequate, but I feel like it's a good start for me. 

Though, I am willing to privately negotiate with anyone interested and working out something that works for both of us.

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3 minutes ago, FollyToBeWise said:

As I have said before, I have no interest in draining anyone's bank account or putting anyone's well-being in jeopardy - it would depend on the person and their means, but anything below 20,000 lindens weekly seems more like a client to me and less like a sugar parent like. 

I know too few people in this lifestyle (on Second Life, I mean) and none of them seemed impressed with my cut-off rate, as they see double that as barely adequate, but I feel like it's a good start for me. 

Though, I am willing to privately negotiate with anyone interested and working out something that works for both of us.

Are you seeking a single, solitary , exclusive sugar parent? Or several/many? 

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14 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

Are you seeking a single, solitary , exclusive sugar parent? Or several/many? 

Oh, I am not looking for anything exclusive. The whole 'commitment = exclusivity' thing never appealed to me. Second Life and Role-play is where I escape from the stresses of the real world, being exclusive and the expectations that comes with it is more stress than I could handle. If I find someone that works for me, I will likely not feel the need to seek out other sugar parents. But I just like keeping my options open and not tying myself down.

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25 minutes ago, FollyToBeWise said:

Oh, I am not looking for anything exclusive. The whole 'commitment = exclusivity' thing never appealed to me. Second Life and Role-play is where I escape from the stresses of the real world, being exclusive and the expectations that comes with it is more stress than I could handle. If I find someone that works for me, I will likely not feel the need to seek out other sugar parents. But I just like keeping my options open and not tying myself down.

At L$20k per parent/week, you’re going to be quite wealthy.

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57 minutes ago, FollyToBeWise said:

anything below 20,000 lindens weekly seems more like a client to me and less like a sugar parent like.

US$350 a month.

26 minutes ago, FollyToBeWise said:

I am not looking for anything exclusive

 

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4 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

At L$20k per parent/week, you’re going to be quite wealthy.

Perhaps, if there will be more than one. It's less about wealth and more about finding people I'd enjoy doing this with. Hence, my openness to negotiating something that works for everyone. 

 

4 minutes ago, Callum Meriman said:

US$350 a month.

 

I can do math. ?

 

How much would you two propose I set my cut-off limit to? 7500 a week?

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1 minute ago, FollyToBeWise said:

How much would you two propose I set my cut-off limit to? 7500 a week?

For most Sugar Daddies, maybe L$150 a week, L$200 if you are lucky.

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18 hours ago, Callum Meriman said:

For most Sugar Daddies, maybe L$150 a week, L$200 if you are lucky.

That's not a sugar daddy, lol. 

I don't even take my shirt off for that.

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1 hour ago, FollyToBeWise said:

As I have said before, I have no interest in draining anyone's bank account or putting anyone's well-being in jeopardy - it would depend on the person and their means, but anything below 20,000 lindens weekly seems more like a client to me and less like a sugar parent like. 

I know too few people in this lifestyle (on Second Life, I mean) and none of them seemed impressed with my cut-off rate, as they see double that as barely adequate, but I feel like it's a good start for me. 

Though, I am willing to privately negotiate with anyone interested and working out something that works for both of us.

Hold up, $80 USD a week?!?! Oh honey, That is far more than most escorts make. What people get twice that?!?! Hell, most decent sized merchant are lucky to get that much after expenses. Seriously, if i'm going to spend $80, i'd rather spend that RL on a date and possibly get real sex. Good lord, i don't spend $80 on myself a week in SL. 

 

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46 minutes ago, Drake1 Nightfire said:

Hold up, $80 USD a week?!?! Oh honey, That is far more than most escorts make. What people get twice that?!?! Hell, most decent sized merchant are lucky to get that much after expenses. Seriously, if i'm going to spend $80, i'd rather spend that RL on a date and possibly get real sex. Good lord, i don't spend $80 on myself a week in SL. 

 

Well, you do raise valid points. People have different wants and different means. It's why I cut the amount I was told was 'barely adequate' by half.

Hell, my friend sent me quarter of that, on the same day, just because she felt like it. 

I am a confused small, please don't get mad at me. ??

Besides, sugar parents are meant to be well-off - hence why these amounts are beyond reasonable.

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1 hour ago, FollyToBeWise said:

Besides, sugar parents are meant to be well-off - hence why these amounts are beyond reasonable.

Got it, you want rich sugar parents, because you want to be spoiled rotten. It all makes sense now!

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7 hours ago, FollyToBeWise said:

As I have said before, I have no interest in draining anyone's bank account or putting anyone's well-being in jeopardy - it would depend on the person and their means, but anything below 20,000 lindens weekly seems more like a client to me and less like a sugar parent like. 

I know too few people in this lifestyle (on Second Life, I mean) and none of them seemed impressed with my cut-off rate, as they see double that as barely adequate, but I feel like it's a good start for me. 

Though, I am willing to privately negotiate with anyone interested and working out something that works for both of us.

Calling @Madelaine McMasters !  We've sighted some underbrush that needs to be burned back.

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FollyToBeWise sort of sold herself short. I know it's popular to heckle industry workers, but just to put it into perspective, 20,000 L / $80 a week is way on the low end for what you would expect to pay for personalized attention. If she averaged spending one hour a day per week with you, you're paying her a little over $10 an hour. People outside of SL that offer the same level of contact--basically through e-mail, text, or chat, without voice or cam--could probably get away with charging something like $50 an hour.

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I have to go back and edit all my *****ty typos like 50 times. And then I edited another word because I realized which subforum I'm in. Help, I need sleep.
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I guess the question is, are you offering the services of your RL self, and doing this as a RL income source? Or is this just for fun and roleplay using your SL avatar, while covering your SL costs at the same time?

20kL/80$ per week sounds like it's too low for the former yet far too high for the latter. The expectations at the two pricepoints are radically different, and as she's said "For instance, I don't feel safe mixing second life with real life - so it will be within the confines of second life and the time we spend together, not outside it.", I'd put her in the second category.

I'm not even sure what I'd do with 20k a week + gifts, if the aim was to keep everything inside SL. I'd run out of stuff to buy after the first month or so. :P

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46 minutes ago, JaedenDelanaire said:

FollyToBeWise sort of sold herself short. I know it's popular to heckle industry workers, but just to put it into perspective, 20,000 L / $80 a week is way on the low end for what you would expect to pay for personalized attention. If she averaged spending one hour a day per week with you, you're paying her a little over $10 an hour. People outside of SL that offer the same level of contact--basically through e-mail, text, or chat, without voice or cam--could probably get away with charging something like $50 an hour.

And a mesh dress someone spent hours making costs $3.. Its all about perspective. In SL things cost so much less than their RL counterparts. Cam escorts charge typically 5K an hour or $20 USD. No voice, no cam just texting emotes for $10/ hour plus gifts?!? 

No one is heckling her. If you really think a sugar baby deserves $80 a week, which is less than most custom mesh designers charge, you are delusional. Please, tell me why i would pay someone who is very new to SL $80 a week for less than i can get from a babygirl or sub? 

I put $100 USD into SL every month for my rent, mesh costs, texture costs and incidentals to run my store.  Who the hell can afford to pay someone $4,160 a year to be their eye candy? I am in the wrong business. Looks like i need a female alt.. 

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7 hours ago, FollyToBeWise said:

Well, you do raise valid points. People have different wants and different means. It's why I cut the amount I was told was 'barely adequate' by half.

Hell, my friend sent me quarter of that, on the same day, just because she felt like it. 

I am a confused small, please don't get mad at me. ??

Besides, sugar parents are meant to be well-off - hence why these amounts are beyond reasonable.

Wait, 40K is 'barely adequate'?!?!? Good lord. I wonder if your "friend" is pulling your leg, or offering RL services. 

I have sent friends 5K before. I have known them for years before doing so. 
There is a huge difference between "well-off" and having the kind of money you speak of. Tossing a couple of hundred USD a week at someone to be eye candy and a semi-often bed warmer is more than well off. 

Think about it.. $320 a month is a car payment. 

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Why are you comparing a real person's sexual and emotional involvement to a 3 hour blender product? You're objectifying her without even paying or asking for consent. Rude. 

She's not asking for plus gifts, she's asking for ballpark 20k L and is willing negotiate lower. Half the price of cam models? Sounds about right from what I've seen. Especially after seeing her in game picks. 

If you don't understand the value of industry workers for your personal life, that's okay, dude. But she's a 7 month avatar and has indicated RL community experience with a vetting process. Perhaps if you're interested you could ask her for advice for your own vetting process. 

And sure? Try out being an in game industry worker. It's fun.

 

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8 hours ago, Callum Meriman said:

For most Sugar Daddies, maybe L$150 a week, L$200 if you are lucky.

Wow, really?   I'm not "in the biz", so have no way of even guessing, but L$200 won't even buy a gal a single outfit per week.  While her L$20,000 per week sounds extremely high to me, L$200 per week sounds super low.  

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I don't think I will get into the debate about comparing emotional services with clothing, or comparing RL wages with SL.  I will simply leave you all with two words of wisdom:

Comparison Shopping.

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I never truly understood that lifestyle, not downing it. However, I really don't see why men or women would become a personal bank account for anyone. To each their own I guess. And good on ya for exploring different sides of SL, that is very commendable. Just a word of warning, please be careful, you really don't know what you are gonna get yourself into. This could be the best experience or the worst experience for you. Just please try and be careful, and don't rush into the first person, who will spoil.

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1 hour ago, JaedenDelanaire said:

Why are you comparing a real person's sexual and emotional involvement to a 3 hour blender product? You're objectifying her without even paying or asking for consent. Rude.

Lol, talking crap about creators work in SL, but getting offended on behalf of someone looking to turn their own "sexual and emotional involvement" into a purchaseable service. The monetarization turns it into just another thing sold and offered in Second Life. Its now not more sacred than a DJ gig, a mesh dress or a script. And its true: The SL economy has a much lower pricelevel than their RL equivalent. So she isn't underselling herself, she is adapting to the price level of the market she wants to operate in. If she wants to get paid like a RL prostitute or cam girl, she should enter a different market and offer her service there.

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I didn't say anything negative about creator work. ? And I'm sorry I'm the one to tell you this but purchasing time and services from a person does not make their involvement less human or personal.
 

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3 hours ago, JaedenDelanaire said:

Why are you comparing a real person's sexual and emotional involvement to a 3 hour blender product? You're objectifying her without even paying or asking for consent. Rude. 

She's not asking for plus gifts, she's asking for ballpark 20k L and is willing negotiate lower. Half the price of cam models? Sounds about right from what I've seen. Especially after seeing her in game picks. 

If you don't understand the value of industry workers for your personal life, that's okay, dude. But she's a 7 month avatar and has indicated RL community experience with a vetting process. Perhaps if you're interested you could ask her for advice for your own vetting process. 

And sure? Try out being an in game industry worker. It's fun.

There will be no RL involvement, as per her opening post. I did not objectify her, I compared services offered. Time vs time. Try reading what was written without adding meaning to unwritten words.  

On 11/14/2018 at 1:48 AM, FollyToBeWise said:

 For instance, I don't feel safe mixing second life with real life - so it will be within the confines of second life and the time we spend together, not outside it. 

And she most certainly did say "gifts plus lindens." 

On 11/14/2018 at 1:48 AM, FollyToBeWise said:

I'm bisexual, kinky, and a detailed writer and emoter and even though I am asking to be spoiled with gifts and lindens, I expect you to put your own need and well-being first - ahead of the game and everything else. 

Where did you see anything about RL community experience? 

Here's the thing, equate SL to RL numbers. a $L is equal to 1 USD. IE, a dress in Sl costs $300L the same dress in RL would be comparatively priced at $300 USD.  Hopefully y'all can follow me here. 

Would you pay $80,000 USD a month to someone to be a part time companion? Not a chance in hell.  I mean good lord, Vivian Ward got paid $3000 USD to spend a whole week with Edward Lewis... And that was 24/7. 

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1 hour ago, JaedenDelanaire said:

I didn't say anything negative about creator work. ? And I'm sorry I'm the one to tell you this but purchasing time and services from a person does not make their involvement less human or personal.
 

I'm refering to the way you mentioned the creation of mesh clothes as a "3 hour blender product", as if it was easy and somehow a disgrace to compare it in any shape or form to the service the OP is offering. Other than that I'm just telling you that she was in no way objectivied, just because her service is treated and talked about the same way any product would be.

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