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On 9/26/2019 at 8:44 PM, skylarmalone said:

now going over how it works!

Have Fun and enjoy the new Technology and all the new Features you can learn how to use. 😉

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Linden Labs/Raider Linden.... When will you release the EEP code for the 3rd party viewer so all of us that use then will be able to get a "normal" day cycle?? As the EEP code are on the servers it screw up the normal day cycle for EVERYONE on non-eep viewers that don't resolve to wind light all the time. It's been 1 year more or less since you messed up the SL sun by putting the EEP code on the servers.

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24 minutes ago, Linnrenate Crosby said:

Linden Labs/Raider Linden.... When will you release the EEP code for the 3rd party viewer so all of us that use then will be able to get a "normal" day cycle??

Clearly it's the symptom of how screwed up that code still is, if it can't be released yet it means that the current issues are nothing in comparison to what would happen after official release. Most likely @NiranV Dean has a quite long and well reasoned list of issues that makes EEP unusable. 

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Well isn't that why they have the beta grid, for testing such things and new features. Would have been better if they had done the server code there... given people some lindens to go there and do some testing (like pay pr. bug reported etc) instead of screwing it up for most of us

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48 minutes ago, Linnrenate Crosby said:

Well isn't that why they have the beta grid, for testing such things and new features. Would have been better if they had done the server code there...

Agreed

49 minutes ago, Linnrenate Crosby said:

given people some lindens to go there and do some testing

LL?! Paying for testing?! They expect testing for free from us (see the content creation user group and similar) while underpaying their own developers, getting contractors (the moles) to do a HUGE amount of work for approximately 600 dollars monthly GROSS payment. 

24 minutes ago, Silas Merlin said:

EEP works fine and is very nice

Yeah so fine that it can't be added as a official release viewer feature yet. That it is nice, no question about.

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On 12/29/2019 at 3:10 PM, OptimoMaximo said:

Agreed

LL?! Paying for testing?! They expect testing for free from us (see the content creation user group and similar) while underpaying their own developers, getting contractors (the moles) to do a HUGE amount of work for approximately 600 dollars monthly GROSS payment.

So you say that all the bugs reported in this forum are their official "bug" reports... wow. I wonder how many beta testers they have on the viewer development if the pay is that bad, or is that also relying on helpful users that report problems on the jira?

I guess a last name of Mole or even Linden are payment good enough :D

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38 minutes ago, Linnrenate Crosby said:

So you say that all the bugs reported in this forum are their official "bug" reports

No, that's the Jira, and the beta testing is usually carried out by volunteers who participate to the Content Creation User Group, so it's basically free. They mainly rely on helpful users.

40 minutes ago, Linnrenate Crosby said:

I guess a last name of Mole or even Linden are payment good enough

I don't know about the latter, but the former, the Moles, get a miserable 600 USD gross (so taxes need to apply afterwards) for all the work they do, and they're hired amongst the residents.

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On 12/29/2019 at 1:41 PM, Linnrenate Crosby said:

Linden Labs/Raider Linden.... When will you release the EEP code for the 3rd party viewer so all of us that use then will be able to get a "normal" day cycle?? As the EEP code are on the servers it screw up the normal day cycle for EVERYONE on non-eep viewers that don't resolve to wind light all the time. It's been 1 year more or less since you messed up the SL sun by putting the EEP code on the servers.

Since nearly 1 Year we have realistic 24-hour cycles in our two regions and use the old, but still working Beta from Firestorm as well as the current Lindenviewer. Amazingly, the outdated version of Firestorm delivers better results than the latest from Linden Labs. I think Firestorm should launch a new public useable beta based on this, which also includes the latest other features such as bakes on mesh etc. . It is really time to give people something to approach EEP with and with all the convenience that Firestorm offers.

The main problem I see is that Linden as well as all others are still too busy trying to please users who try to use the latest standards with pre-flood 32bit Stone Age computers. Graphics cards like a 2GB Ram 450GTX and similar weak onboard cards have been outdated for ages and can be seen as museum artifacts.

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15 hours ago, Miller Thor said:

I think Firestorm should launch a new public useable beta based on this,

Not up to them.

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