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18 minutes ago, halebore Aeon said:

Believe it or not, if you could log onto the grid, in bed, controller in hand, you would see a rapid incline in users. 

Offhand, I can think of a couple of things I would rather do in bed, as much as I enjoy SL.   But that's just me.

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22 minutes ago, Klytyna said:

Some years back, there was an official announcement here in the Uk, that admitted that due to budget cuts in pest control, Rats had finally multiplied to the point where they outnumbered people...

You're statement sounds to me like somebody cheering that there are more rats than people...

Yeah, user numbers might rise... But what kind of users? Would what remained STILL BE Secondlife?

Or just some cheezy imitation spinoff...

SecondLife, the Innaccurate Tribute Console Game, NOT recommended for people over 18 with above average IQ's... Only on Sontendsoft PlayCubeOne... Ready Player Thumbs!
 

I have one quick question, why do you feel a need to mock everyone, and think you are superior. Like you are pretty negative, and well it is kinda getting old. I was making a suggestion, and I think that the user base, would stay the same actually. 

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17 minutes ago, Rolig Loon said:

Offhand, I can think of a couple of things I would rather do in bed, as much as I enjoy SL.   But that's just me.

Well many people, like to game in bed. Yes, sex and sleep are nice. However, I am one of the many people, who enjoy gaming in bed.

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3 minutes ago, halebore Aeon said:

and I think that the user base, would stay the same actually.

You are entitled to your opinion... And I'm entitled to think you've been inhaling Nitrous Oxide while coming to that opinion...
 

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Just now, Klytyna said:

You are entitled to your opinion... And I'm entitled to think you've been inhaling Nitrous Oxide while coming to that opinion...
 

I am entitled to my opinion, but I would like you to stop mocking my character and thinking you are superior to everyone else. Just cause you are entitled to your opinion, does not mean that you have to go around and mock people, and basically, character attack someone for their suggestion. 

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1 minute ago, halebore Aeon said:

and basically, character attack someone for their suggestion

Ahh, you're one of those...

Those people who regard any disagreement with their ideas asa "personal attack" on their character.

Heads up, I mocked your idea, not you, I stated that claiming that a rize in Quasi-illiterate console peasants in SL would be a good thing, was in a similar vein to claiming that rats outnumbering people was a good thing.

Let me elaborate further.

We already have a situation in SL where a significant percentage of the SL population are technically, 10-15 percent below the human average in terms of IQ, and YOU think it would be "good for SL" to encourage more people whose conversational skills are limited to...

"Wot can i do here, ur hawt, wanna ****, r u a gurl in RL, got skype? ASL u got nude selfies to share?"

And thats the more literate ones, the ones who manage to escape from the safe hubs and screaming "ur n ass, i r haxor i haz ur ip, i report u to da feds for callin me n ass on da web wot r cyber terrism!" at each other in Voicespam.

Making SL into a console friendly FPS would mean it wasn't SL anymore.

Sure numbers might go up, but it would be "more rats than people" and NOT a good thing for SL, as SL would choke to death on "leet gamerz wot r haxors n in2 pvp".

Ever heard the expression "Dying with Dignity"? If the concept's too difficult for you, phone a friend...
 

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4 hours ago, Klytyna said:

Ahh, you're one of those...

Those people who regard any disagreement with their ideas asa "personal attack" on their character.

Heads up, I mocked your idea, not you, I stated that claiming that a rize in Quasi-illiterate console peasants in SL would be a good thing, was in a similar vein to claiming that rats outnumbering people was a good thing.

Let me elaborate further.

We already have a situation in SL where a significant percentage of the SL population are technically, 10-15 percent below the human average in terms of IQ, and YOU think it would be "good for SL" to encourage more people whose conversational skills are limited to...

"Wot can i do here, ur hawt, wanna ****, r u a gurl in RL, got skype? ASL u got nude selfies to share?"

And thats the more literate ones, the ones who manage to escape from the safe hubs and screaming "ur n ass, i r haxor i haz ur ip, i report u to da feds for callin me n ass on da web wot r cyber terrism!" at each other in Voicespam.

Making SL into a console friendly FPS would mean it wasn't SL anymore.

Sure numbers might go up, but it would be "more rats than people" and NOT a good thing for SL, as SL would choke to death on "leet gamerz wot r haxors n in2 pvp".

Ever heard the expression "Dying with Dignity"? If the concept's too difficult for you, phone a friend...
 

It wouldn't turn into an FPS, and there are already FPS sims in SL. It would be the same SL, just played on Consoles and PC. Yes, you mocked my idea,  You mock everyone's idea, that isn't your idea. Also please show me actual stats, where people are somehow stupid, and or illiterate. That being said, you really can't deem someone's intelligence, based on how they type. That and some people can't really speak English, and they are actually trying. Yes, of course, you have those people, who can't speak English, and refuse to speak it properly. That is totally fine. However, you really aren't disagreeing with people's ideas. You are mocking them and in that same response, you are clearly questioning a person's intelligence. When they come up with something YOU dislike. People are always gonna have ideas, and opinions, and suggestions, that you don't like. Does not mean, you can basically mock their idea, and essentially call them stupid, all in one sentence. Instead of mocking ideas, trying bringing some of your own to the table.

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Please don't feed the trolls.

Some of us here are trying to discuss the problem and find solutions.

I'd like to see concurrency increasing slightly, rather than being flat or declining. Even a small increase would turn the mindset around.

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6 minutes ago, animats said:

Please don't feed the trolls.

Some of us here are trying to discuss the problem and find solutions.

I'd like to see concurrency increasing slightly, rather than being flat or declining. Even a small increase would turn the mindset around.

Who's the Troll? Me or the woman, that is mocking ideas?

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1 hour ago, halebore Aeon said:

that is mocking ideas?

Ridiculous ideas deserve to be ridiculed...

"Ideas to SAVE SecondLife" and/or "Get RL rich quick by playing a video game" that I've ridiculed have included...

Covering all of SL's Madlands continents with copies of the quasi abandoned urban prim waste known as Kama City...

...

Installing free pushbike rezzers at Zindra info hubs which will encourage the voice spamming trolls, and "bots and alts" to explore the "beauties of Kama City", and thus improve retention and SAVE SecondLife!"...

...

Banning "wear to unpack" shopping bags, because noobs won't need to rent parcels to unpack on, from Madlander Slumlords...

...

Building sims with 30 1024 lots crowded in around an express highway and a shipping canal with lots of bridges will be a taste of "Lifestyles of the rich and famous"... 

(I ridiculed that one by actually doing the math with regard to parcel sizes and how many you could fit in around the required waterways and road network, something the proposer hadn't bothered to do, and found you can't fit more than 24 and still have his  "loads of roads and "water and that the crowded cheek by jowl parcel packing needed would make the parcels LESS pleasant than the crowded 30 houses per sim LL Entitlement Ghetto sims, anything BUT "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous")

...

Closing Zindra down and reusing the sims to make safe clean family friendly road routes between the "decent God fearing" continents because "Gawd hates smut" and "I refuse to leave my prim car and teleport!"...

...

A self proclaimed "serial entrepaneur"  noob who claimed he could turn a $10 investment into a $400 a day cashout if only an SL casino owner would GIVE him a 50% share in their business in exchange for his idea of adding a resturant and Vegas style stage show to their cheesy gambling machine skyboxes

...

And one of my personal favorites... "the entire population of Zindra are dummy avatars and npcs because people in their skybox homes refused to respond to spam im's from a 5 week old noob" used as part of a multi thread claim that LL need to do something to ban "bots and alts"...

...

All SL merchants should be REQUIRED by SL law to own a mainstore parcel on the Madlands...

...

Non Entitlement Club members should have LIMITS placed on how many L$ they are allowed to buy so they cannot afford to rent homes out in the Estates that make up 2/3rds of SL, and generate the majority of LL's income!

( This one particularly amused me, as when it was pointed out to the cretin in question that this would mean people couldn't afford to buy their home and garden products, or rent land to use them on, they ignored the reply, and then, a couple of pages later, ridiculed THEIR OWN idea, as if it had been somebody else's )

...

These are just a SMALL sample of the pathetic and ridiculous ideas some people have come up with over the last year and a half, ALL of which RIGHTLY deserved to be ridiculed.

...

I've also made a point of ridiculing "Project Stupid - Vomit-Cam is MAGIC" for as long as it's existed, some 4 years, as a pointless white-elephant money-pit.

...

If people don't like having their ideas ridiculed, perhaps they should refrain from suggesting ridiculous ideas...



 

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2 minutes ago, CoffeeDujour said:

Honestly .. why are you even here?

Ahh, did I forgot to mention...

"Worthless Activity Tokens" to encourage Land Flippers to mass produce chat-spam bots to earn "tier reduction" and introduce excessive levels of Chinese owned MMO style "grind" into the SLives of the "SL peasant underclass" to benefit the people able to pay pennies for major tier reductions via redemption of said "Worthless Activity Tokens" purchased for a pittance from the "peasant grinders" at ruinous exchange rates that make 5 L$ an hour "live human traffic bot" camping jobs seem well payed by comparison.

Yeah that one was CERTAIN to save SL, wasn't it.
 

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4 hours ago, halebore Aeon said:

Also please show me actual stats, where people are somehow stupid, and or illiterate

Just go to a crowded place.
It can be a recreational sim like Tempura, a beach like SDI, and for the worst case: Just search for "sex" in the places tab and go to where the traffic is pretty high.

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@halebore Aeon

The best way to deal with some people here is to add them to your ignore list. That way, you won't know what they say, so you won't feel anything about it. I have very few on my list, but Klityna is one of them. In fact she was the first. Not because she annoyed me, or anything like that, but because she never has anything of value or interest to say, and the way she says nothing of any value or interest is always idiotic, imo. It's like she writes for her own benefit, so that she can read it over and over, and feel good about having written it. Ignoring her means that I'm not tempted to read anything she writes, even when I get a notification that she's quoted me. If someone quotes her, I can see the quote, but I usually ignore it anyway.

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2 hours ago, Resi Pfeffer said:

Just go to a crowded place.
It can be a recreational sim like Tempura, a beach like SDI, and for the worst case: Just search for "sex" in the places tab and go to where the traffic is pretty high.

That really doesn't help, just going to a place, doesn't constitute actual numbers.

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3 hours ago, Klytyna said:

Ridiculous ideas deserve to be ridiculed...

"Ideas to SAVE SecondLife" and/or "Get RL rich quick by playing a video game" that I've ridiculed have included...

Covering all of SL's Madlands continents with copies of the quasi abandoned urban prim waste known as Kama City...

...

Installing free pushbike rezzers at Zindra info hubs which will encourage the voice spamming trolls, and "bots and alts" to explore the "beauties of Kama City", and thus improve retention and SAVE SecondLife!"...

...

Banning "wear to unpack" shopping bags, because noobs won't need to rent parcels to unpack on, from Madlander Slumlords...

...

Building sims with 30 1024 lots crowded in around an express highway and a shipping canal with lots of bridges will be a taste of "Lifestyles of the rich and famous"... 

(I ridiculed that one by actually doing the math with regard to parcel sizes and how many you could fit in around the required waterways and road network, something the proposer hadn't bothered to do, and found you can't fit more than 24 and still have his  "loads of roads and "water and that the crowded cheek by jowl parcel packing needed would make the parcels LESS pleasant than the crowded 30 houses per sim LL Entitlement Ghetto sims, anything BUT "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous")

...

Closing Zindra down and reusing the sims to make safe clean family friendly road routes between the "decent God fearing" continents because "Gawd hates smut" and "I refuse to leave my prim car and teleport!"...

...

A self proclaimed "serial entrepaneur"  noob who claimed he could turn a $10 investment into a $400 a day cashout if only an SL casino owner would GIVE him a 50% share in their business in exchange for his idea of adding a resturant and Vegas style stage show to their cheesy gambling machine skyboxes

...

And one of my personal favorites... "the entire population of Zindra are dummy avatars and npcs because people in their skybox homes refused to respond to spam im's from a 5 week old noob" used as part of a multi thread claim that LL need to do something to ban "bots and alts"...

...

All SL merchants should be REQUIRED by SL law to own a mainstore parcel on the Madlands...

...

Non Entitlement Club members should have LIMITS placed on how many L$ they are allowed to buy so they cannot afford to rent homes out in the Estates that make up 2/3rds of SL, and generate the majority of LL's income!

( This one particularly amused me, as when it was pointed out to the cretin in question that this would mean people couldn't afford to buy their home and garden products, or rent land to use them on, they ignored the reply, and then, a couple of pages later, ridiculed THEIR OWN idea, as if it had been somebody else's )

...

These are just a SMALL sample of the pathetic and ridiculous ideas some people have come up with over the last year and a half, ALL of which RIGHTLY deserved to be ridiculed.

...

I've also made a point of ridiculing "Project Stupid - Vomit-Cam is MAGIC" for as long as it's existed, some 4 years, as a pointless white-elephant money-pit.

...

If people don't like having their ideas ridiculed, perhaps they should refrain from suggesting ridiculous ideas...



 

Let's see an idea of yours then, instead of sitting there and mocking everyone. I want to see more productivity. You clearly, show an aptitude, that would suggest, that you have the greatest idea of them all. Why not share it?

 

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19 minutes ago, halebore Aeon said:

That really doesn't help, just going to a place, doesn't constitute actual numbers.

No one can give you any numbers. How would that be possible? The Lindens dont run a iq test database as much as i know.
You have to make your own experience about who is stupid or illiterate, and who´s not.

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36 minutes ago, halebore Aeon said:

Let's here an idea of your then, instead of sitting there and mocking everyone. I want to see more productivity.

Klytyna may have those outbursts of negative frustration every now and then. But she's also contributed some very valuable posts to the forums so you can't complain about her productivity. All in all I think we ought to be glad she's here. I certainly am.

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18 minutes ago, ChinRey said:

Klytyna may have those outbursts of negative frustration every now and then. But she's also contributed some very valuable posts to the forums so you can't complain about her productivity. All in all I think we ought to be glad she's here. I certainly am.

Be "glad" all you like - doesn't change anything.

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27 minutes ago, Solar Legion said:

Be "glad" all you like - doesn't change anything.

I know. People are people.

There are no angels and no demons here. A human is always something inbetween.

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Every post, that I have seen her in. She is always mocking ideas like she is superior, and questions people's intelligence. So instead of her being like that, maybe she can show a bit more compassion, and actually, give some ideas. I am honestly getting frustrated and annoyed with her, not glad. It appears, she only comes on, to mock others, and question others intelligence. How can one appreciate her for that? 

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2 hours ago, halebore Aeon said:

Let's see an idea of yours then, instead of sitting there and mocking everyone. I want to see more productivity. You clearly, show an aptitude, that would suggest, that you have the greatest idea of them all. Why not share it?

1. I am under NO obligation to share anything with you, ifI don't want to, you are NOT entitled to my ideas on a subject, if any.

2. WHEN I choose to share ideas, I do NOT assume that everyone will like the ideas, and indeed may well publily warn people that they won't like the idea

3. I do try and reason through the idea, and possible pros and cons before stating it, rather than, for example indulging in knee jerk "Copy UE 4 based first person shooters!"

4. If you want to see other peoples ideas, try reading the forums...

 



 

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