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But beware, had a woman come in for medical rp care, and she was very rude. was with another patient, and she came into patient care room nude. Sent this person home. she came back, She wanted FREE medical rp care. and I explained that everyone pays something for the rp care, and depending on what they wanted to rp the fee goes up. Well she refused to pay the fee. She was asked to leave, and I eventually banned her from my sim. Now every day for the past 4 days she has had so far 9 alts come and harass me at the sim and its increasingly gotten worse. I have filed reports to Linden Labs, and I just felt that I needed to blog about this as well as the fact that she said she was blogging and going to " tell everyone" on how because there is a fee for rp services that I am a scam artist. Mind you She has not paid one LINDEN! 

Just a word to fellow medical staff from other medical practices, be aware! want more information contact me inworld

 

 

Dawn

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12 minutes ago, dawnpaige said:

Wont be mentioning the names, 

But beware, had a woman come in for medical rp care, and she was very rude. was with another patient, and she came into patient care room nude. Sent this person home. she came back, She wanted FREE medical rp care. and I explained that everyone pays something for the rp care, and depending on what they wanted to rp the fee goes up. Well she refused to pay the fee. She was asked to leave, and I eventually banned her from my sim. Now every day for the past 4 days she has had so far 9 alts come and harass me at the sim and its increasingly gotten worse. I have filed reports to Linden Labs, and I just felt that I needed to blog about this as well as the fact that she said she was blogging and going to " tell everyone" on how because there is a fee for rp services that I am a scam artist. Mind you She has not paid one LINDEN! 

Just a word to fellow medical staff from other medical practices, be aware! want more information contact me inworld

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Let me get this straight...

You role-play a doctor in a role-play clinic and a role-play patient doesn't want to pay role-play money for the role-play treatment.

So you banned her from the sim?

I agree that returning is alts and disturbing the role-play peace hence is rude, but it sounds like she was banned for the wrong reasons. In role-play, people will role-play rudeness and angst and often pretend to be something they usually are not.

And what does L$ have to do with anything? I wouldn't pay you or anyone else L$ for role-playing *anything*. If it's role-playing then that includes the pretend role-play money, too. L$ is real money.

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Wanting L$ for specific roleplay is really not uncommon for SL ... If I remember rightly, it was even listed in physical real world Second Life book as a way to earn money!

If someone wants L$ for a roleplay then you either pay the fee or go someplace else, sending your alts over to harass the person because you don't agree with it is abuse.

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1 hour ago, Alyona Su said:

Let me get this straight...

You role-play a doctor in a role-play clinic and a role-play patient doesn't want to pay role-play money for the role-play treatment.

So you banned her from the sim?

I agree that returning is alts and disturbing the role-play peace hence is rude, but it sounds like she was banned for the wrong reasons. In role-play, people will role-play rudeness and angst and often pretend to be something they usually are not.

And what does L$ have to do with anything? I wouldn't pay you or anyone else L$ for role-playing *anything*. If it's role-playing then that includes the pretend role-play money, too. L$ is real money.

She was told there would be a $L fee for any rp.

She was entirely free to pay the requested amount or decline and leave.

Not getting  what you demand from another person is no reason to harass and grief them.

Maybe her country has socialized healthcare, and she is used to getting medical care for free, so she thought she could get free healthcare here too.

 

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I'm not a fan of the "pay for roleplay interaction" plan, but whatever ... why do you consider to grant such a troublemaker free publicity instead of giving her what she really earns? Which is nothing, especially no extra attention. 

Mute, freeze, eject, ban ... rinse and repeat. That's your cure.

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12 minutes ago, Phorumities said:

Maybe her country has socialized healthcare, and she is used to getting medical care for free, so she thought she could get free healthcare here too.

Unnecessary political social commentary not required.

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1 minute ago, CoffeeDujour said:

Unnecessary political social commentary not required.

Oh I know its not required. 

I was simply offering a suggestion as to why she demanded free health care.

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19 minutes ago, Phorumities said:

Maybe her country has socialized healthcare, and she is used to getting medical care for free, so she thought she could get free healthcare here too.

 

This is an interesting point of view that I never thought to consider.

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The concept of paying for roleplay is utterly alien to me, so I have trouble understanding it. For me, roleplay is the cause and payment for roleplay. Then again, I do have some beef with sl-roleplay in general. However, the owner makes the rules. And if they want to get paid for it, and people are willing to pay, well, okay.

But yeah, harrassing someone because of that is not okay. She could have simply gone elsewhere, where she didn't have to pay for it. Coming back with an army of alts is... strange at best and sounds like issues. 

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11 minutes ago, Sukubia Scarmon said:

The concept of paying for roleplay is utterly alien to me, so I have trouble understanding it. For me, roleplay is the cause and payment for roleplay. Then again, I do have some beef with sl-roleplay in general. However, the owner makes the rules. And if they want to get paid for it, and people are willing to pay, well, okay.

But yeah, harrassing someone because of that is not okay. She could have simply gone elsewhere, where she didn't have to pay for it. Coming back with an army of alts is... strange at best and sounds like issues. 

I think her mistake was in offering rp medical care. She should have just offered medical care.

I know lots of hookers in SL, but I don't know any rp hookers, they all expect to get paid for their services.

That's the ultimate question in Second Life... is it real or is it roleplay?

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3 hours ago, dawnpaige said:

Now every day for the past 4 days she has had so far 9 alts come and harass me at the sim and its increasingly gotten worse.

It happens, SL has a fair number of nuts.

You can only play whack-a-mole when she returns. Mute/Ban and most importantly, never react, don't say a word. Eventually she will get bored.

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Ok guys let me make it clear. so I am not getting bashed here.

I am a nurse in RL. and 7 years ago when I joined SL. I seen a need for someone that would rp realistically Yes there are now a ton of clinics/ hospitals but not many of us " old timers" left, So Yes I do charge to rp as most of the medical practices  do. I am not trying to get my name out there. I have had no issues till NOW with anything or any way I have ran things here in SL. I enjoy what I do because I had to retire from what I do in the real world because of my real health issues.  However I did see a need to blog about this

apparently she has more alts then I care to count, { So they will each be banned, muted and blocked.}   

But I wanted to hear what everyone  else had to say,  I see everyone else blogging complaints from boyfriend troubles to issues in the LGBTQ community and even political issues. So why cant I discuss a issue with a troll?  I wanted to see if other rp medical staff that read the blogs here had the same issue.

and lets make this clear it has nothing to do with not getting paid or getting paid. 

* Yes in the SL book it is listed that being a rp medical provider is a way to make money. 

* Yes there are pro's and con's to doing anything in world that you receive Linden as a form of payment. especially family medical care{ Roleplay care} 

  

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3 hours ago, dawnpaige said:

apparently she has more alts then I care to count, { So they will each be banned, muted and blocked.}   

But I wanted to hear what everyone  else had to say,  I see everyone else blogging posting complaints from boyfriend troubles to issues in the LGBTQ community and even political issues. So why cant I discuss a issue with a troll?  I wanted to see if other rp medical staff that read the blogs forums here had the same issue. 

You can certainly discuss any issue. As on any forum (this is not a blog) Skip past replies that are unhelpful/offtopic and focus on those that are relevent.

Some people are very unhinged in SL, all you can do when you run over these is play whack-a-mole and mute, ban over and over. The Lab will not help you because they provided you the tools to solve it.

From vast experience, there is absolutely nothing else that will work.

As long as you never talk to her, not even once, she will get bored eventually. She will also run out of old alts eventually, then your 7/14/30/45 day age kicker can take over the hard work of constantly banning her.

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8 hours ago, dawnpaige said:

So why cant I discuss a issue with a troll?

You can if you want, but it shows the troll they're successfully bothering you. That's the goal so they'll just keep doing it. Escalation to things like threats of blogging is to provoke further reaction from you. Posting here has rewarded your troll and made you a potential target for others.

Be boring. Don't talk with them further. Keep any conversation with others on strictly private channels. If you really want to know if others offering similar RP are also being targeted, find them in search and IM them.

Be boring. Ban and mute. Ban and mute. Ban and mute. They'll move on eventually.

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1 hour ago, Bitsy Buccaneer said:

You can if you want, but it shows the troll they're successfully bothering you. That's the goal so they'll just keep doing it. Escalation to things like threats of blogging is to provoke further reaction from you. Posting here has rewarded your troll and made you a potential target for others.

Be boring. Don't talk with them further. Keep any conversation with others on strictly private channels. If you really want to know if others offering similar RP are also being targeted, find them in search and IM them.

Be boring. Ban and mute. Ban and mute. Ban and mute. They'll move on eventually.

I suppose she should be glad her antagonist doesn't read the forums.

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12 hours ago, dawnpaige said:

 

Ok guys let me make it clear. so I am not getting bashed here.

I am a nurse in RL. and 7 years ago when I joined SL. I seen a need for someone that would rp realistically Yes there are now a ton of clinics/ hospitals but not many of us " old timers" left, So Yes I do charge to rp as most of the medical practices  do. I am not trying to get my name out there. I have had no issues till NOW with anything or any way I have ran things here in SL. I enjoy what I do because I had to retire from what I do in the real world because of my real health issues.  However I did see a need to blog about this

apparently she has more alts then I care to count, { So they will each be banned, muted and blocked.}   

But I wanted to hear what everyone  else had to say,  I see everyone else blogging complaints from boyfriend troubles to issues in the LGBTQ community and even political issues. So why cant I discuss a issue with a troll?  I wanted to see if other rp medical staff that read the blogs here had the same issue.

and lets make this clear it has nothing to do with not getting paid or getting paid. 

* Yes in the SL book it is listed that being a rp medical provider is a way to make money. 

* Yes there are pro's and con's to doing anything in world that you receive Linden as a form of payment. especially family medical care{ Roleplay care} 

  

Thank you for explaining better. With this more detailed explanation, I've always sided with your complaint (I never meant my original reply to be any kind of negative bashing against you) - though the "cause and effect"' makes a lot more sense to me now. Yes, I do know there is some role play where L$ are involved, though it's not usually called "role-play" (The whole pregnancy routine, for example) because all of SL is technically 'role-play'.

When you said role-play what entered my mind is actual role-play, like on a role-play sim (faeries, lycan, Gor, etc.) - where L$ would be a ludicrous idea, which is why I said *I* would never involve L$ in it (and I did mean I, myself, not that everyone should follow suit). :)

Though I get it: You were likely very frustrated when you made that original post and when our minds are frustrated when we write, the words written rarely match what is in our heads.

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17 hours ago, Alyona Su said:

And what does L$ have to do with anything? I wouldn't pay you or anyone else L$ for role-playing *anything*. If it's role-playing then that includes the pretend role-play money, too. L$ is real money.

Every thing we do in SL is a sort of role-play. That girl on a stripper pole isn't a real stripper, and it isn't a real pole, but she wouldn't be there if all she got out of it was the role-play experience. The stores we shop at are not real either, and neither are the clothes we buy. None of it happens though if Linden Labs can't make real dollars, which is why there is a connection between Lindens and real money. 

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2 hours ago, Talligurl said:

Every thing we do in SL is a sort of role-play. That girl on a stripper pole isn't a real stripper, and it isn't a real pole, but she wouldn't be there if all she got out of it was the role-play experience. The stores we shop at are not real either, and neither are the clothes we buy. None of it happens though if Linden Labs can't make real dollars, which is why there is a connection between Lindens and real money. 

 

Well... yes and no. Just because something is virtual, doesn't mean its "sort of roleplay" if you interact with it. Buying virtual clothes for your avatar is not more roleplay than buying software for your computer is. Both can't be touched, but they are both valid products and their owners are operating a business just as real as the real life shop next door.

The stripper is *closer* to roleplay, but in essence she is not providing traditional roleplay, but an erotic service. Its generally understood as such, which is because nobody bats an eye when the stripper or the escort charges for their time. This medical service is again a step closer to traditional roleplay, which makes it feel a bit more strange to charge for, because its more like charging for roleplay, than charging for an erotic service. I could understand however, if the whole medical think comes with the background of also providing the entire place to people, who seek to play in it.

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