Ernesto Perez Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 minute ago, seanabrady said: I did try it as i said. It works perfectly well. No idea what you are doing wrong. Perhaps its an issue with the viewer you use or the region your on...no clue. But i can assure you creating a prim, setting the media to http://www.yoututbe.com allows you to click and browse and navigagte the site as if you were on your computer. You dont need buttons, you just click. This is really strange. I have Firestorm, set land settings to "web content", set there youtube URL, set texture to "default media texture". Then made prim, made it little bigger, then changed texture also to "default media texture". Video with sound starts playing in prim, together with whole youtube website and small window with video. Now, I can click anywhere in this prim, but nothing happens, no any click to this prim dont do nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirly Fizzle Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) You need to use Media On A Prim/Shared Media, not parcel media. Edited April 26, 2018 by Whirly Fizzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttacwup Float Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Ah that is not how i setup media on a prim. Your right you cannot click on anything that way. However, really as I think about it you cant really do what you want to do in SL regardless since only parcel media is persistent. Parcel (web/shared) media isn't persistent regardless. 13 minutes ago, Ernesto Perez said: This is really strange. I have Firestorm, set land settings to "web content", set there youtube URL, set texture to "default media texture". Then made prim, made it little bigger, then changed texture also to "default media texture". Video with sound starts playing in prim, together with whole youtube website and small window with video. Now, I can click anywhere in this prim, but nothing happens, no any click to this prim dont do nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Perez Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 Actually I dont want to do more than just buy workable youtube TV, but I wasnt seen any working one jet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laufiair Hexicola Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Because they've moved off to Media on a Prim, I attempted to explain this to you earler. YouTube TVs don't work anymore because of this. You won't find one anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttacwup Float Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 23 minutes ago, Ernesto Perez said: Actually I dont want to do more than just buy workable youtube TV, but I wasnt seen any working one jet. I dont think you will find any TV anywhere in world where you can start a stream another people will see it in sync with you. As I read back I think that is your goal? To use it in a club setting for lots of people to both see the video and hear the music at the same time? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathrynLisbeth Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ernesto Perez said: ... set land settings to "web content", set there youtube URL, set texture to "default media texture". Then made prim, made it little bigger, then changed texture also to "default media texture"... Okay the Method you describe is for Parcel Media. Parcel Media : if a thing in Parcel has a specified texture on a face. It plays the 'Specific' URL listed in the viewer, not just anypage associated with a domain. You can script a thing using LLParcelMediaCommandList that allows you to interface w/o having to change the 'Specific' Youtube URL BUT ... No DO That! Media on a Prim is a TOTALLY Different thing. Forget all the stuff you did earlier involving About Land / media Media on a Prim (MOAP): makes the thing that works like a browser window , like you are talking about with the clicky right click on prim & select face find the pull down that says Materials & change it to media https://gyazo.com/519bea9421c650c5200ea3d875813942 click things to see what it does -- and for You Tube Playlist autoplay: Looks like ya have to leave the MOAP face to Anyone can touch. *Typed while watching a Youtube playlist on my TV made that way. But.. THEY DON'T automagically sync. People have to all click start at the same time. Think of MOAP as making the face of a prim become a pass thru browser from your PC to the URL. Oh and this is kinda fun. If you are in the same group as the MOAP Objects rez group. Just drag a WebBrowser Bookmark into the viewer and on to the media face. If you Bring your own video server, you can use Parcel Media to sync.. I think. Edited April 26, 2018 by KathrynLisbeth added stuff about the not auto sync 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Perez Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 hour ago, KathrynLisbeth said: Okay the Method you describe is for Parcel Media. Parcel Media : if a thing in Parcel has a specified texture on a face. It plays the 'Specific' URL listed in the viewer, not just anypage associated with a domain. You can script a thing using LLParcelMediaCommandList that allows you to interface w/o having to change the 'Specific' Youtube URL BUT ... No DO That! Media on a Prim is a TOTALLY Different thing. Forget all the stuff you did earlier involving About Land / media Media on a Prim (MOAP): makes the thing that works like a browser window , like you are talking about with the clicky right click on prim & select face find the pull down that says Materials & change it to media https://gyazo.com/519bea9421c650c5200ea3d875813942 click things to see what it does -- and for You Tube Playlist autoplay: Looks like ya have to leave the MOAP face to Anyone can touch. *Typed while watching a Youtube playlist on my TV made that way. But.. THEY DON'T automagically sync. People have to all click start at the same time. Think of MOAP as making the face of a prim become a pass thru browser from your PC to the URL. Oh and this is kinda fun. If you are in the same group as the MOAP Objects rez group. Just drag a WebBrowser Bookmark into the viewer and on to the media face. If you Bring your own video server, you can use Parcel Media to sync.. I think. Jess, that helps and mouse starst working. Altough now I see this prim-media is even more useless feature, because its individual. The same I can at all close SL and watch it from my computer browser and forget about SL. I cant get at all the point of prim-media. In SL point is that all people see the same. I need not individual video but common video in inworld. But by mouse controlled. Is there really no one wasnt programmed normal way to watch internet sites with audio-video? I remember there was some years ago streaming media services. I imagine, it must still go through parcel media (to all see the same). But for navigation the prim where textuse is, must have lots of prims matrix. So, it must recognise where I click in the screen. Example I click "next", then this external service must emulate this click for youtube web and transfer video streem back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttacwup Float Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 I don't know of any system that shows the same video stream to multiple people at the same time. There is no way to do it unless you find something online that is multicasting the exact same position, even then though the spee at which people see things... i dont see how its ever possible to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Perez Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 15 minutes ago, seanabrady said: I don't know of any system that shows the same video stream to multiple people at the same time. There is no way to do it unless you find something online that is multicasting the exact same position, even then though the spee at which people see things... i dont see how its ever possible to do. Land music and video is always independent from listeners. How you imagine at all then to be able to exists in SL all those dance clubs and live shows. All hear the same music and they dont need to choose or start nothing. It comes through land media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttacwup Float Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Music yes via parcel media, but that is playing a multicast stream. My point is i dont know anything like that for video to tie into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laufiair Hexicola Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 The way video media use to be done in SL was that way where if you set the parcel media everyone could see it, however it started to become a problem because folks had to deed the tv or controller to the land and if they messed up, they'd have to wait for the sim owner to come online and fix it. Media on a Prim was created to eliminate that issue so nothing had to be deeded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Perez Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, seanabrady said: Music yes via parcel media, but that is playing a multicast stream. My point is i dont know anything like that for video to tie into. Web services (URL) arent multicasts. They are just ordinary https downloads + caching-buffering. Multicast is at all different story and its benefit appears only when server can service known klients by group. There exist layer2 and layer3 multicasts with corresponding switch or router. The question in only WHO is downloading. When all hear-see the same stuff, then the downloader is Linden Labs server. When everyone hear-see its own stuff, then downloader is resident SL viewer. Edited April 26, 2018 by Ernesto Perez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Perez Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 13 minutes ago, Laufiair Hexicola said: The way video media use to be done in SL was that way where if you set the parcel media everyone could see it, however it started to become a problem because folks had to deed the tv or controller to the land and if they messed up, they'd have to wait for the sim owner to come online and fix it. Media on a Prim was created to eliminate that issue so nothing had to be deeded. In mainland, there is no "SIM owners". Parcel owner is more than enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laufiair Hexicola Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Govenor Linden owns all mainland and yes, parcels are divided out to rental agencies who rent out to people like you and me. However, if someone has an issue with their parcel for whatever reason, they ask their rental agency not Linden Labs. My statement still holds true for private sims(and I don't recall seeing a mainland vs private estate anywhere in this thread). I've been in SL long enough to know what's what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Perez Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Laufiair Hexicola said: Govenor Linden owns all mainland and yes, parcels are divided out to rental agencies who rent out to people like you and me. However, if someone has an issue with their parcel for whatever reason, they ask their rental agency not Linden Labs. My statement still holds true for private sims(and I don't recall seeing a mainland vs private estate anywhere in this thread). I've been in SL long enough to know what's what. I dont rent anything. I have my own parcel and land settings are enough for media. But I find out already solution. I put prim to show parcel web video (youtube). I find out that it still shows automatically next song. Only I cant change nothing, cant skip or next song. But its enough when it just plays automatically next song, because usually next song is in the same style as previous. But I must make also some tricks with this video shown prim. As it shows video onlu in upper left cornes, then I must just cover other parts of display and all is just like real. Its just like poor man solution. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake1 Nightfire Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 3 hours ago, Ernesto Perez said: I dont rent anything. I have my own parcel and land settings are enough for media. So you dont pay rent (tier) to LL every month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Perez Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Drake1 Nightfire said: So you dont pay rent (tier) to LL every month? Tier is not rent, it is tier. And also LL is more trustable than someone unknown. And this is not your business what I pay or not pay. Edited April 27, 2018 by Ernesto Perez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Paslong Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ernesto Perez said: And this is not your business what I pay or not pay. and here we go again... good lord he's even more charming as Alwin Edited April 27, 2018 by Ethan Paslong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Perez Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 30 minutes ago, Ethan Paslong said: and here we go again... good lord he's even more charming as Alwin Yes, my payment is not your business. I dont know how in USA, but in EU there is personal data protection laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake1 Nightfire Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ernesto Perez said: Tier is not rent, it is tier. And also LL is more trustable than someone unknown. And this is not your business what I pay or not pay. Tier is rent paid to LL. And you brought up the subject of rent, not me. Good lord are you touchy. Edited April 27, 2018 by Drake1 Nightfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Perez Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Drake1 Nightfire said: Tier is rent paid to LL. And you brought up the subject of rent, not me. Good lord are you touchy. No, its not rent, its tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionalein Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 It's just the Lindens calling a horse by a different name to avoid SL-related confusion... from an abstract PoV it's the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Perez Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 Tier is like "the level", "the high life". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttacwup Float Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Sorry yes you are correct things like Shoutcast etc are not actually multicast. I stand corrected. Doesn't change the fact that there are no ways to do in SL what you are wanting to do with video. Sync'd video doesn't work. There are, too the best of my knowledge (i would love to be corrected) no video players that enable a video stream to be streamed to everyone in an area at the same time. You can define a playlist from something like youtube, but you cant play it out to everyone. Good luck you your club though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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