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On 1/25/2018 at 7:59 AM, Rhonda Huntress said:

Some?
/me laughs loudly.
There are so many men playing women avatars that it is a stereotypical joke.  However, they are all lesbians with a big "Sorry guys, girls only" line in their profile.

 

I don't voice either.  I listen on voice often enough but I don't voice.  Does that make me a guy? 
OK.  I'm a guy.  Yippee, you found me out. Oh, the shame.  How will I ever recover.

/me blinks

And ... what has changed?

Anyway, it is also good to keep a healthy level of paranoia when online whether it is a game, SL or just browsing the web.  If you're not comfortable, then don't voice, cam, skype, discord or whatever else you feel pressured to use and especially DO NOT use any RL communications with someone you just met online. Evah!  That's just asking for trouble.

And back on topic, let them think what they want to think.  Find someone willing to accept you as you are. Because seriously, how can there ever be trust in a relationship that demands intrusive confirmation from the start?  How long will it be before they want something else from you or decide they cannot accept some other part of you?  In short, you are not missing anything but a manipulative relationship.

 

i for one am a lesbian and I do voice but I do not voice to people I do not know or random strangers but so often just because i am a lesbian on here I do get accused of being an alt or a male as i am new to SL only 3 months it blows people's minds when they actually hear my voice and I am indeed a woman some can not fathom that real life lesbian indeed are on SL I just laugh and go on with my SL and I do love what you said people have to be them no matter what other's say and furthermore acceptance of others is also paramount I think here though it would be lovely that SL would be better without griefers and drama we still need to think about those who actually enjoy SL the way they want to and do not harm others I know in the lgbt tg's and even sissies for that matter get missunderstood even crossdressers and I think its paramount to note the difference in a griefer hiding behind a female avi in order to lie versus someone who is more comfortable being a female avi there are two different mindsets one is to manipulate the other just wants to be themselves and to be accepted and I think because there are both on any 3D virtual world it is so hard to distinguish the two and so people don't try to distinguish the difference

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Misogyny rules of SL: What men want
They want RL picture: To prove to them that you are a woman.
But they accuse you of stealing someone’s picture, or you photoshopped it, then want more revealing pictures.
They want voice: To prove to them that you are a woman.
But if you voice you are accused of using a voice changer.
They want to cam: To prove to them that you are a woman
But if you cam you are accused of streaming a video
I don’t voice
I don’t Cam
I don’t give you my RL Picture
Prove to me that you are not married.
Prove to me that you are not still living in your parent's basement

I DO NOT Need to prove that I am a woman. Believe me, or don’t. If you think I’m a man, just mute me and move on. You are not important enough for me to care.

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On 1/25/2018 at 8:05 AM, Panteleeva said:

what if girl have low voice that sounds like guy?lol

some guys think that they can offend any girl with saying "if no voice, you re man then".:D

Or just like one dude told me:you re a guy i think if you don t voice.Because some guys play with girl avi, because they are gay guys, who afraid to accept it..:D

Because they don't respect you as a person regardless of your gender, they expect you, as a woman to entertain them and validate their sexuality, and if you don't, clearly you can't be a real woman.

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7 hours ago, Drucilla Zeplin said:

Misogyny rules of SL: What men want

This is what some men want. It's also what some women want. It is why some people shouldn't bother dating, if even socializing, in SL.

Misandry is not the right tool to fix misogyny, that's just the start of a downward spiral which will achieve nothing but frustration for everyone involved. When an individual is encountered, whom will only fraternize with you on certain terms which you do not find agreeable, move along. 

I'm not saying such men don't exist, or aren't common - I frequently observe guys behaving in ways which would call for them to be smacked atop their heads. But natural selection is what governs social convention, too - if we're to generalize in the other direction, many women smile towards them - and then whine about them when their backs are turned. The whole premise appears childish.

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23 minutes ago, Orwar said:

It is why some people shouldn't bother dating, if even socializing, in SL.

I think that's the whole problem. Some of us are not here to date, those who are either accept we are not, or try to seduce us anyways... and the latter bunch is the annoying folks... (and I've run into that kind with both avatar genders, female nuissances are not as common, but they exist too)

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2 hours ago, Fionalein said:

I think that's the whole problem. Some of us are not here to date, those who are either accept we are not, or try to seduce us anyways... and the latter bunch is the annoying folks... (and I've run into that kind with both avatar genders, female nuissances are not as common, but they exist too)

This also covers those of us who have their partner listed and are usually standing right beside them when the Makeout Artists start asking for dates, sex and clues.

This all goes back to “SL is not the same thing for everyone” and someone who came here because they heard SL was Pixel Sex Paradise is probably going to  stir some trouble unless they also bring their social skills with them or stick to areas that cater to their needs.

The “Virtual World vs Game” viewpoint is important, as “Game” seems to give some individuals permission to ignore boundaries.

Of course, RL does have the same kind of thing; the “friend” who tries to pick you up via text while you’re with your lover. 

Reality TV really has killed modern culture.

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11 minutes ago, AmandaKeen said:

The “Virtual World vs Game” viewpoint is important, as “Game” seems to give some individuals permission to ignore boundaries.

I stand on the 'game' side of the debate, but honestly this comes down to human decency. Don't be a jerk. Playing a 'game' doesn't give you some special permission to cross boundaries and be a douchecanoe. 

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6 hours ago, AmandaKeen said:

The “Virtual World vs Game” viewpoint is important, as “Game” seems to give some individuals permission to ignore boundaries.

This.

6 hours ago, Nalytha said:

I stand on the 'game' side of the debate, but honestly this comes down to human decency. Don't be a jerk. Playing a 'game' doesn't give you some special permission to cross boundaries and be a douchecanoe. 

Gamer culture is broadly toxic, all human decency is left at the door. "It's only a game" absolutely gives that permission.

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1 hour ago, CoffeeDujour said:

Gamer culture is broadly toxic, all human decency is left at the door. "It's only a game" absolutely gives that permission.

You have the right to your opinion, but as a self-titled 'gamer,' that definitely stings. Are there toxic people in games? Yeah. Is gaming culture toxic by nature? No. Games where people have to interact with each other tend to do best when you are being cooperative with others -- which works best when you can be a decent human being. Are there trolls and jerks? Yeah... but there's also the kind of community that leads to lifelong friendships and marriages. 

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12 hours ago, Orwar said:

This is what some men want. It's also what some women want. It is why some people shouldn't bother dating, if even socializing, in SL.

Misandry is not the right tool to fix misogyny, that's just the start of a downward spiral which will achieve nothing but frustration for everyone involved. When an individual is encountered, whom will only fraternize with you on certain terms which you do not find agreeable, move along. 

I'm not saying such men don't exist, or aren't common - I frequently observe guys behaving in ways which would call for them to be smacked atop their heads. But natural selection is what governs social convention, too - if we're to generalize in the other direction, many women smile towards them - and then whine about them when their backs are turned. The whole premise appears childish.

By "those" I did imply "those people" not "those men".

Just clarifying.

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Not really all about sex. Those that want to keep in second life that is fine. Those that like to type can stick with those like to type those like to voice can do that.  . People can be what they want every one got their likes. If you Just like to type that is fine if you life to voice that is fine. But when a person is looking for real the person is going to want to deal with the excuses they will move on to someone that will. Truly know one should be forced to do anything but if the person is looking for real then they expect the same respect in return for then to voice and the other person to voice then later via cam and voice before meeting in real so they are not getting cat-fished by a person.  My guy friend meet a girl online he got cat-fished by a women she did even look like her photo's looks are not everything but good to be truthful and upfront.   Everyone has their likes. I came from imvu to second life I use to voice on the other one they took voice away I came to second life still I like to hear someone voice typing to me like being in the Desert with no sound just the air blowing.  But be yourself do what you want why I always read people profile I would not force someone but I only suggest it tho then the person can think about it.

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Y’know - if a gal had a thing for male avatars with female typists, the Voice thing would mess that all up.....:-) For some, ignorance is bliss....

Back again to SL is not the same thing to everyone, so not everyone WANTS to know that much about everyone else :-)

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 Most likely those are boys ( not men)  who are looking for the " tinder, okcupid,facebook" treatment. They want nudes, voice sex , etc. Best avoid those type of guys. 

You have a right to not want to voice if you don't feel comfortable or if you want to protect your personal life.

In my opinion, if a boy says that. It makes me think they are trying to use that as a way to manipulate you into getting on voice.

You don't have to prove yourself to no one on here. especially a manchild.

 

I had a guy ask me if I was a dude on voice because of my voice. I told him this.

"I sound like a grown woman with grown woman problems, not a little girl"

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On 1/25/2018 at 3:59 AM, Orwar said:

I may or may not have been cuddling someone who whispered into mine ear that they'd love it if I were to play under their skirt, but that I might not like what I'd find there. 

I'm not afraid of physical contact with men, and I'm by no means insecure about my sexuality - people lie about everything in SL; sometimes you'll put Lindens on a scam and occasionally you'll put your *ahem* in someone who aren't who they say they are - in fact if you put your *atchoo* in strange people on a regular basis you're pretty much asking for it.

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People lie in real life all the time, the internet is no exception to the rule. The only difference is your face to face with your liar RL. And if you're only on here to get your keyboard sticky... best advice..for them is to go watch porn. Or get a lady friend in RL.

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Particular people get really annoyed when you Voice with them and have helium handy.

Generally, a come-hither from Daisy Duck is not what they were after :-)

If you google that, Daisy is Donald Ducks girlfriend....

In retrospect, I was lucky not to run into someone with a Duck-fetish......

(( hums a line from “Disco Duck” and wanders off ))

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On 5/21/2018 at 4:08 PM, Drucilla Zeplin said:

Misogyny rules of SL: What men want
They want RL picture: To prove to them that you are a woman.
But they accuse you of stealing someone’s picture, or you photoshopped it, then want more revealing pictures.
They want voice: To prove to them that you are a woman.
But if you voice you are accused of using a voice changer.
They want to cam: To prove to them that you are a woman
But if you cam you are accused of streaming a video
I don’t voice
I don’t Cam
I don’t give you my RL Picture
Prove to me that you are not married.
Prove to me that you are not still living in your parent's basement

I DO NOT Need to prove that I am a woman. Believe me, or don’t. If you think I’m a man, just mute me and move on. You are not important enough for me to care.

Can I put this in my profile?

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