Ron Khondji Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) I just started up the Linden Viewer and got this: I know this might be important for you, and the american government and FCC seem only to be working on bettering their own and their friends wallets, but why bother me with this pop-up when all I want to do is log in to second life? I'm in europe so why do you think I have any influence on any policy in the states? Please do not use the viewer, which is used globally, for your local politics. Edited December 12, 2017 by Ron Khondji 2 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwin Alcott Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ron Khondji said: Please do not the viewer, which is used globally, for your local politics. totally agree, but i get it when going to the website... Edited December 12, 2017 by Alwin Alcott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhonda Huntress Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 UGH! *****ing spam. That is all it is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhonda Huntress Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I'm calling my congressman and urging him to not listen to the uninformed viral out cry and do what they need to do to allow ISPs to protect their clients from cyber-bulling and attempted intrusions from foreign entities. Spam usually has the opposite of the intend effect for me. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madelaine McMasters Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, Rhonda Huntress said: Spam usually has the opposite of the intend effect for me. Same here, particularly when I find it on my dinner plate. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 34 minutes ago, Ron Khondji said: I just started up the Linden Viewer and got this: I know this might be important for you, and the american government and FCC seem only to be working on bettering their own and their friends wallets, but why bother me with this pop-up when all I want to do is log in to second life? I'm in europe so why do you think I have any influence on any policy in the states? Please do not use the viewer, which is used globally, for your local politics. It's spam for a good cause. If net neutrality is erased I'm not sure how many SL customers could get priced out of the market, potentially causing SL to crash, and then you wouldn't have your fun place across the pond to play in. http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2017/11/philip-rosedale-net-neutrality-vr-second-life-high-fidelity.html 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc DeSantis Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 @Luna Bliss you have a point but, as sad as I would be if that were to happen as I head towards 11 years, there are other places to "play in" as you put it if you really want to play that card. Besides, isn't the US the land where the Almighty Market (tm) is Pre Imp King? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qie Niangao Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 minute ago, sirhc DeSantis said: @Luna Bliss you have a point but, as sad as I would be if that were to happen as I head towards 11 years, there are other places to "play in" as you put it if you really want to play that card. Besides, isn't the US the land where the Almighty Market (tm) is Pre Imp King? Yeah, if you include the almighty free market in buying Congress by telecom lobbyists. The fact the popup appears outside the US could be helpful to expats, of whom I am one. Unfortunately, though, my most recent US residence was in a deep blue state so I doubt I could add much to their already pro-Net Neutrality views. Linden Lab faces an existential threat from the loss of the current rule, and particularly the way Ajit Pai's FCC will instead prevent state and (especially) municipal governments from promoting competition. So the Lab has every reason to do absolutely anything it can to try to stop this -- but it really feels like a lost cause this time. (This would also pose a threat to any networked VR or social gaming platform not owned by Verizon, AT&T, or Comcast, so the 'other places to "play in"' would be basically whatever's left of AOL in whatever's to become of Oath.) 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 21 minutes ago, sirhc DeSantis said: @Luna Bliss you have a point but, as sad as I would be if that were to happen as I head towards 11 years, there are other places to "play in" as you put it if you really want to play that card. Besides, isn't the US the land where the Almighty Market (tm) is Pre Imp King? Does it really matter if there are/aren't other places to 'play in'. It appears that you, me, and the OP choose/want to be here in SL at the present time. Not 'playing some card' in my response to the OP...was simply trying to get him to see he's more connected to the US and its politics than he might think. And that I don't think he should be whining about a freaking popup that actually benefits him. Sorry don't understand your Almighty Market respone in relation to my comment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwin Alcott Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 16 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said: .was simply trying to get him to see he's more connected to the US and its politics than he might think. And that I don't think he should be whining about a freaking popup that actually benefits him. oh yes we in Europe, or the rest of the world, are really waiting for this kind of comments, we can be patronizing perfectly well ourself, don't need yours. And 'your" spam with benefits? Keep it. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teagan Tobias Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 You could just not log in to avoid the pop-up, consider it a taste of what can be after the loss of net neutrality. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhonda Huntress Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Q: What do you call spam for a good cause? A: *****ing spam! The road to hell needs paving after all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhonda Huntress Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) Jeez, do I sound like a grumpy old lady or what. And all you younguns need to GET OFF MAH LAWN! Go play in streets or something .... /me turns her walker around and hobbles away. Back in my day people knew stuff 'bout things and all. Edited December 12, 2017 by Rhonda Huntress 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Bliss Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Alwin Alcott said: 2 hours ago, Luna Bliss said: .was simply trying to get him to see he's more connected to the US and its politics than he might think. And that I don't think he should be whining about a freaking popup that actually benefits him. oh yes we in Europe, or the rest of the world, are really waiting for this kind of comments, we can be patronizing perfectly well ourself, don't need yours. And 'your" spam with benefits? Keep it. Seems like you and the OP have a very strong 'country against country' type of mentality going on... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Meriman Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I second, third, fourth - whatever we are up to - the call to keep politics out of the login "experience" of the viewer and of the associated websites. If you /really/ have to show it, GeoIP the spam so only those residents inside the USA will be spammed by it. Any letter, vote, whatever by the world outside the USA means diddly-squat to the USA lawmakers, so why shove it down our throats too? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NevaehHeartstrings Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 They had good intentions with it.. while those outside the states might be bugged by it ...that's understandable...the thing is many might not understand it might force LL at some point to have to close Second Life..many years before its time. Interesting article by a former linden: New World Notes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bent Luik Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I got that pop up yesterday and today when i logged in to my dashboard. I haven't got it anywhere else so Linden Lab must have ok'd it. I gave it to my little friend and he had a good time with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErinMayHanna Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Nova Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) I got it too.... waves from Thailand Did you know Europeans outnumber Americans on Second Life 3 to 1!? Edited December 13, 2017 by WuShin Typed in Thai font Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Meriman Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Sees it yet again *changes my mind* I now 100% support banning Net Neutrality to get rid of the spam. /me phones the Prime Minister "Mal, 'ow they 'anging? Look mate, can youse git Jules to jump on the dog and bone to that seppo Trump, and give 'im an arse kickin' to do Net Non-Neutrality. All me love to ya trouble and strife too mate" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Stern Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 8 hours ago, NevaehHeartstrings said: They had good intentions with it.. while those outside the states might be bugged by it ...that's understandable...the thing is many might not understand it might force LL at some point to have to close Second Life..many years before its time. Interesting article by a former linden: New World Notes I assume you are refering to our 'Odious corporate presence' (aka Linden Lab). If this has a direct impact on them, then why the hell don't they just make their own statement instead of flash bombing us on log in with their personal agendas. If i spammed support with erroneous subject text every time their staff logged into the support portal they would potentially suspend me until I ceased hitting the return key. They have done similar 'ambiguous' campaigns on issues that effected the platform directly in the past and they were somewhat more transparent than this hinky approach to getting attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake1 Nightfire Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 24 minutes ago, WuShin said: I got it too.... waves from Thailand Did you know Europeans outnumber Americans on Second Life 3 to 1!? Do you have stats to back that claim up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake1 Nightfire Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Well, you certainly didn't bore us with a lengthy detailed explanation... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richardus Raymaker Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I know what is going on, but my vote would not do much as non usa resident. Besides, i never do vote like that , the want to much information. In this case, i would ignore it anyway. I see it as phising. So far i have not seen it. But this whole thing can have impact on the whole world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Meriman Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 16 minutes ago, Drake1 Nightfire said: Do you have stats to back that claim up? It's long been the case that Germans outnumbered Americans. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/05/germans_love_second_life/ Even though that's a decade old, I'd say the mix is about the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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