Why Isn't There a Combat Section in the Forums?

[Parx Oran]

2 hours ago, SAULGOODiE said:

Try a different sales tactic. You are failing before you begin.

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I tutor up at a college for meshing, so the opportunity to tell people about second life comes more often than most, however, this game has built up a stigma amongst almost all gamers as "The pedophile game" or "The game with the furry people in it" or one of the more recent ones I've heard was "That scat fetish game." However once in a blue moon, there is the one person who's not ever heard of it, and I get to tell them all the cool things you could possibly do, but I always make it a point to never touch this game because 90% of it is smut. Not everybody outside this game is willing to quite literally wade through furry smut, *****, and feces before they find the gold. This game has no positive PR, and as a result is very difficult to advertise in a good light. I'm sure this community has tried hundreds of times to create positive PR, however, the truth of it all is most of this game is for interactive porn, and that is usually their first perspective of it. 

 

Edit: ayy pageking

 

Edited November 30, 2017 by Parx Oran

[Tari Landar]

Ahh, I get it now...

You see the vast majority of sl as smut....and everything you and everyone you like that participates in combat....are not...(you know a lot of folks may think combat=gore and violence=bad,  and that you'd need to dispel that idea if you wanted more people to take part?)

Talk about a derailment, my bad...anyway...back to the discussion

I can understand now precisely why you can't recruit new people, you're sending *everyone* you try to recruit outside of sl, the completely wrong message *about* sl. Yeah, some of them likely have heard of it(certainly not a large portion of the human species one might encounter on the web, unless one only sticks to areas wherein it would be mentioned regularly, lol). I've had people say some of the same things to me when I've mentioned it. But, rather than focus on those negative things, or even worse *agree with them.. eh hem... I dispel them. I wouldn't have been able to get homeschool groups into sl at all if I didn't take the time to dispel rumors regarding what "sl is all about"., or even offers.  Even though those groups have since moved our operation top our own hypergrid, we began in sl, and since it involves children, there is no way in HELL I'd let their parents continue to think that smut is, and was, all that makes up the majority of sl. If that truly were the case, we wouldn't have even had a sim in sl, it wouldn't be safe for the kids...and sl very much IS. (provided they fall within the TOS regarding minors, of course). 

If you got out of your own bubble, you'd see that the vast majority of sl is, in fact, not smut, lol. I enjoy good combat too, but I sure as hell wouldn't limp the combat I've participated in with the remainder of sl. Just like I wouldn't combine any other activity as being the majority of sl. Yes, each..umm, we'll call it genre for the sake of discussion...has its own lil(or not so lil in some cases) community....but none of them make up the majority of sl, despite what some folks might think. Some communities, some genres, are larger, or have more content, perhaps even more residents that participate...but odds are pretty darn good that those residents-a lot of them-don't *only* participate in one thing. It's actually quite a small pond of residents that only participate in one thing and one thing only.  You're going to need to get out of your bubble, if you want more recruits, staying elitist about recruits is going to ensure your bubble remains tiny, and therefore definitely not worthy of a sub forum, likely very few discussions anywhere will take place. You don't seem nearly as interested in getting people *interested in combat, it sounds more like you and those already participating just want somewhere to talk about it, but definitely not somewhere to invite new folks....and that's a shame, because combat can be great fun. 

 

 

 It IS a topic that interests me, not in a "I wanna join YOUR combat" kind of way, cuz I prefer mine, but a "I like knowing others' opinions, even when I disagree wholeheartedly" kind of way.

[Parx Oran]

Edit: re-read it, removed gif, expected witty angry twistings of text since that's all I've been getting the past week My B.

Not exactly. The culture of the SLMC is full of insensitive comedy for the sake of being edgy. Similar I'd imagine for other combat communities since they typically have retired SLMC combatants. The people outside the SLMC usually aren't able to handle certain taboo subjects being brought up in jest. And on top of it all, the game is absolutely full of people who love to play 'victim' and the SLMC usually enjoys messing with those people. SLMC just generally enjoys having fun at any cost.

As for the communities, if you added up all the combat sims, and all the clubbing sims, and all the roleplay sims. we may only amount up to only a portion of the activity of the smut sims. This is why I imagine they recently added an entire continent dedicated to adult activities, (the activity there is booming btw).

The game has embraced it, and I've found it difficult to bring it up in discussion, so when people ask me what games I play, I don't even mention SL much anymore unless I have somebody asking about a mesh project I'm working on. 

As for the "i wanna join YOUR combat" thing. its not really like that.. the SLMC is many groups, each with their own development teams, administration, sims, themes, and cultures. But the combat is standard between the groups. 

Edited November 30, 2017 by Parx Oran

[Tari Landar]

So you *don't actually want to discuss combat outside of your own bubble?

You're never going to find folks that agree you should have a subforum at this rate, lol.  I *did agree with you that it would be nice..but certainly not if you aren't open to differing opinions. You really aren't interested in a discussion if you're only looking for people that agree with you. 

[Parx Oran]

18 minutes ago, Tari Landar said:

So you *don't actually want to discuss combat outside of your own bubble?

You're never going to find folks that agree you should have a subforum at this rate, lol.  I *did agree with you that it would be nice..but certainly not if you aren't open to differing opinions. You really aren't interested in a discussion if you're only looking for people that agree with you. 

edited, my bad. misread as angry sh*tposting

Edited November 30, 2017 by Parx Oran

[Tari Landar]

I was/ am offering a different perspective, not only trying to be a smartass. I was hoping that somewhere along the way you'd realize why you're having such a difficult time finding people to discuss it with, or, rather, places (since, it really isn't likely LL will offer a subforum, no matter how much anyone may want it...they're a bit odd abt sub forums here, lol). If you talk to folks about sl, and the main thing you discuss is how much smut it has, yeah, you're going to have a real hard(no pun intended) time getting them in here, or, rather, if you let them continue to think that's most of what sl has to offer.  We have to show folks that sl is more than that  

Have you ever been to Zindra? You might be surprised at how much content that is NOT adult rated is actually out there, especially on Zindra. A lot of folks have property there simply because it removes all *possibility of having content that doesn't jive well with the other ratings-even if they never intend to have such content. I think there's actually some threads on the forums about that-though it may or may not interest you..the discussions were an interesting read for me. There really is a massive amount of non-adult rated stuff, land, events, communities, etc. Sl is a much bigger place than most of us could ever even imagine, much less see. I've been here for years and still probably have only seen maybe half of it-and I wander a lot, and that's probably a massive overestimation of my exploration. 

You need to explore sl some more, you might be surprised at how small the "smut community" really is, once you do. Yeah, it exists(though definitions of "smut" may vary,), and just lie in every other facet of life, real or virtual, it sells, there are those interested. But, it's not the majority of sl...not by a long shot. 

 

[SAULGOODiE]

12 hours ago, Parx Oran said:

I tutor up at a college for meshing, so the opportunity to tell people about second life comes more often than most, however, this game has built up a stigma amongst almost all gamers as "The pedophile game" or "The game with the furry people in it" or one of the more recent ones I've heard was "That scat fetish game." However once in a blue moon, there is the one person who's not ever heard of it, and I get to tell them all the cool things you could possibly do, but I always make it a point to never touch this game because 90% of it is smut. Not everybody outside this game is willing to quite literally wade through furry smut, *****, and feces before they find the gold. This game has no positive PR, and as a result is very difficult to advertise in a good light. I'm sure this community has tried hundreds of times to create positive PR, however, the truth of it all is most of this game is for interactive porn, and that is usually their first perspective of it. 

 

Edit: ayy pageking

 

Once again, horrible salesperson. If most of us here are smut searching losers why even bother posting here. You don't even have the time to reply to an actual thread you created with PRACTICAL INFO instead you talk about how your busy at school and how someone on the Sim could help me. Well thanks for nothing, I'm at the office and can't login, and if you can't bother to take the time to answer the questions on your own bloody thread, then Wtf are you soon here besides stroking your own ego in this thread. Done posting here, and I advice others do the same, you're wasting you're time.

[Zeta Vandyke]

@Parx Oran I believe that since you keep referring to SL as a game you fail to see what SL is.

The internet contains quite a *****load of porn, do you advise people to stay away from browsing the web as well? For someone tutoring at college I find your way of thinking very narrow minded.

If you know how to navigate SL and set your maturity levels, and want to keep away from that type of content, its a fairly safe place. And yes you will stumble upon unwanted content every now and then, but that also happens when you browse internet.

[Parx Oran]

*bad salesperson* 

      I'm not selling anything other than trying to push for a combat subforum. This thread isn't to sell people on any community, only to try and make it so we're not left out like we have been for a long time. As for your complaints on structure, I'm flattered that you wanted me to give you a tour however, we have a system for when somebody is busy, and we direct them to the next person. There is always somebody online who will give a tour, and I haven't been around. I'm sorry I had class, but RLB4SL. 

*second life isn't a game*

      SL is a first-person shooter with cool things for me, and only that for many many people that do combat. I suggest you go outside, go to a bar or a coffee shop and meet people. If your life is so out of order that second life is a drug-like escape from reality for you, fix your life first, don't make a new one, and only look back because it's fun. 

*you're narrow-minded*

      I know.

*you don't know how to use the internet*

      Ok lol.

*Have you been to Zindra*

      I'll check it out when I get the time. Haven't been able to log in much recently. From the way you describe it, it seems neat enough to take a look at.

*You need to explore SL more* 

      My job is recruiting, meshing and administration in the CC. I get out plenty, but I tend to only pop in and out of places where I have a better chance of finding people interested in combat. I've been almost everywhere at least once, I don't always like what I see, and I tend to be very opinionated and biased. Of course, the best I can do to prove that to you is to say "I get out plenty." So take with it what you will.

 

I am not the best person to speak with the combat communities, and I am fully aware there are much more pleasant people to have this discussion with. You can ask anybody in the SLMC and they'll say I'm an irredeemable ass but my biases come from experience, and I tend to 'scorch the earth' with communities whenever I see a bad example. The reason you may not see me around all of the family RP, or city RP is because i have a tendency of getting banned. Not ever because I did anything wrong, but because I look like this:

I'm the guy on the left, and I tend to get dismissed as a griefer immediately for my appearance in places like where you may describe. It happens countless times to many people in the SLMC, so I really just kinda stopped trying to go places like that.

 

We're not here to talk about how awful Kobi is. Everybody already knows it.

Why shouldn't there be a combat subforum when roleplay gets one?

Try to respond to that prompt only. If you want to voice how terrible of a person I am, please do so in my IM's so I can add it to my collection. If it's not on topic, It doesn't belong here. A good portion of us including me are guilty of this so let's not point figers because that's dumb.

 

 

[Tari Landar]

2 hours ago, Parx Oran said:

We're not here to talk about how awful Kobi is. Everybody already knows it.

Why shouldn't there be a combat subforum when roleplay gets one?

Try to respond to that prompt only. If you want to voice how terrible of a person I am, please do so in my IM's so I can add it to my collection. If it's not on topic, It doesn't belong here. A good portion of us including me are guilty of this so let's not point figers because that's dumb.

 

 

I can answer that, but it takes us right back 'round......The answer is two parted...

A-LL didn't wanna give it to ya

B-Most folks you run into, will classify combat AS rp, even if some, including you, do not. So, by that alone...there is already a place for those discussions, it's right here, in this forum.  

[Grevan Snowdrop]

1 hour ago, Tari Landar said:

B-Most folks you run into, will classify combat AS rp, even if some, including you, do not. So, by that alone...there is already a place for those discussions, it's right here, in this forum.  

I don't see why an adjucated person should label combat groups as RP groups per se. 

Fact is: Second Life allows you to use it to your likings, fill sims with the content you need to make your very own game experience.
The groups within the SLMC are mostly looking forward to use Second Life like a FPS game. Not because there arn't enough shooter games 
on the market, but because SL allows us to express our creativity and design the military groups just the way we want them. 
Yes there are some that engage in some pretty plane "ranks" roleplay, as in you have to salute your officers around base or attend to meetings in the right uniform. 
But basicly that is about it. The majority of those who consider themself SLMC combetants are using ranks to settle who is allowed to call raids upon other groups
or make decisions like what the next project you will work on will be. So ranks are for organsation and administration, not for roleplaying. They might be used for roleplaying,
but that is not their main purpose. Don't just take our word for it. Ask any officer from any group within the SLMC if they are a roleplaying group. 

Try to look at it from our point of view: 
We would love to have a subforum of our own to get a platform for all SLMC groups to enjoy, a platform were we can exchange thoughts about rules 
for weapon scripts, rules of engagement etc. 
Take a look around in the list of threads in the Role Play Forum: https://community.secondlife.com/forums/forum/320-role-play/

- Baby girl looking for a Daddy
- 2 dogs looking for homes
- Furry yiff roleplay 
...

That is not us. 
That ain't Coersion.
That ain't the SLMC.
 

Edited December 2, 2017 by Grevan Snowdrop

[Tari Landar]

52 minutes ago, Grevan Snowdrop said:

Try to look at it from our point of view: 
We would love to have a subforum of our own to get a platform for all SLMC groups to enjoy, a platform were we can exchange thoughts about rules 
for weapon scripts, rules of engagement etc. 
Take a look around in the list of threads in the Role Play Forum: https://community.secondlife.com/forums/forum/320-role-play/

- Baby girl looking for a Daddy
- 2 dogs looking for homes
- Furry yiff roleplay 
...

That is not us. 
That ain't Coersion.
That ain't the SLMC.

 I tried to get a clear answer as to where the rp aspect line is drawn..and got nowhere, as I suspected I would. You didn't do anything to clear that up by pointing out other flavors of RP that are "not you". Umm, yeah, I kinda now that already. Not all things labeled as rp are identical, some are so vastly different, it's unreal....doesn't make them "not rp", simply..a different *flavor, *style, whatever have you...still rp. RP can be loads of different things, it's simply ONE label, a blanket term, used to describe lots of different kinds of activities. I'm a woman...but that doesn't mean I am exactly like every other woman. We may share many labels, many similarities, but we're sure as hell not all identical just because we're all women  

All that said..there is absolutely nothing stopping any of you from creating a forum where you can do what you wish, discuss to your hearts' content and gather together. I participate in certain activities in sl that actually have their own forums where we chit chat about stuff related to that activity. I highly recommend it, it can be loads of fun and truly is a much better way to bring your community together, whereas a LL sponsored one...not so much, because there are far more non-community members that will read and participate in the threads than there will be community members....which doesn't seem(to me) to be something you guys want, at all, lol. (and I really hope I'm wrong on that, and that you would be far more welcoming to non-community members than the posts thus far in the thread come across). You'd have much more control over who can participate, who can't, topics of concern, educating others, etc.. etc... You'd have literally no control at all here on a forum...none, zilch, nada...and I could annoy the ever loving hell out of people by continually asking "why you no rp?"  

not that I would....

No, really, I wouldn't  I'm not that much of a jerk. Folks simply have different ideas of what *to them* is, and is not, rp..and I get it, even if they can't explain why  

Edited December 2, 2017 by Tari Landar

[Parx Oran]

RP in the broadest real life sense means (my definition at least) to act as another person in a different situation. 

This is the definition I see the Lindens using to separate categories and subforums, but that is a very real-life definition, and so by all means the entire game can go into the role-play section.

What I am trying to accomplish is to draw that line by ensuring that the definition of roleplay in games means: 

"RP means to act as another person in a different situation for the sake of playing pretend in a hypothetical environment and thickening a stories plot and/or character development."

This ensures that not every community/sim in second life is a role-play community/sim, and narrows it down to only the people that are in fact playing roles. is that a simple enough way to put it?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------  WITH THAT SAID  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Combat groups don't make characters, They don't thicken a plot, they don't play pretend, and they don't act like another person in a different situation.

Everybody in the SLMC at least is just playing a video game chatting with friends, earning weapons and fighting other people doing the same thing. The way Ghost was talking, Tulagi (the largest VICE sim) is the same way. It's just an arena where people buy weapons, and fight each other with them.

It is also not fit to go into the Games section because Combat, like role-play is an activity that people do in many communities. It is not a specific game. It is possible for specific games to involve combat, but there are very few that do. Those few could post in the Games section and stay accurate.

 

 

Edited December 2, 2017 by Parx Oran

[Kallaniden Sands]

I have had an extensive history within the SLMC. I have been appointed to the highest position, I have been assigned as an administrator of VICE combat, I have assisted in the development of combative communities throughout my run. In time I chose to retire, and after about 5 years of inactivity I have rejoined the community within the group Parx Oran is, albeit inaccurately, representing. With my personal experience, I would not identify the SLMC as an RP community. There were elements of it in the past with previous groups, however it was not a widespread decision among the collective of groups that existed. Each group had a unique method of providing experience, but it was not uniform as a doctrine. Ordo Imperialis was a massive organization that called for very strict protocols and intricate ceremonies, including a funeral held for a member that had passed away. All of these elements were not necessarily exclusive to this group, but very involved in their doctrine.

The group I represented as a Lt. General was Black Watch 39th, a heavy artillery/mechanized robotic suit based collective with great emphasis on Scottish roots. Our equipment was thematic, but our behavior and activity was not based on us having the same name as a Scottish infantry regiment. To be considered as role playing, one would be assuming a character whose actions and consequences revolve around a story line that coincides with "lore," or the idea that all groups approach the character development in the same way. Any relationship between members of these communities, be they friend or foe, was based solely on the experiences between the actual people and not based off a character sheet that would need documentation and implementation of experience towards. Emotions, thoughts, responses and experiences were all had by the individual and not someone they were attempting to portray. Certain groups may incorporate this type of gameplay, but that is not the common core element of the SLMCs.

[Parx Oran]

And I'll be damned if it ever is again. The past two groups that tried implementing roleplay back into their cultures failed because of it. Ceremonies, ranks, and themes are all there as either part of a genuine tradition, or for administrative structure. That funeral, for instance, was probably the best way they could honor the death of a friend, Especially for how massive Ordo was back then. Another example are Coercion's promotion ceremonies. Once or twice a month we sit people in the same hall and congratulate members who have assisted the group as a whole or proven that they could be useful in a higher position. The pageantry of it is part of the tradition of doing it year after year, not for the sake of feeding into a fantasy world.

Edited December 2, 2017 by Parx Oran

[Tari Landar]

You really don't have to try and explain why it isn't rp to you anymore. I do understand we define rp differently...and *I* am okay with that. I don't know that you are, but..I'm okay with that too.  I think we'd go all day long and never see eye to eye on it..again, I'm cool with that  

I still recommend creating your own forums, not because I think it doesn't belong here(I do actually, even if we may disagree on *where it belongs, within these forums), but because I think your own forums might be better suited for what you are wanting..and you'll have much better control of the content and participation. You can define different areas of interest to your community, that way people can find the info they're looking for a bit easier even when not logged in,  including those not yet part of your community but perhaps interested...or even just folks that enjoy reading about them. Plus, come on, you can get them for free, lol. 

[Dillon Levenque]

On ‎11‎/‎29‎/‎2017 at 11:59 AM, Parx Oran said:

This is why we get testy

I know you wrote this two days ago, but....

Fine. Be testy. No problem with that whatsoever; most of us get testy about certain things now and then. Just don't expect anyone but your friends to give a damn. That just tells me, "This one's not for you, Dillon. A little too focused for your liking." Again, no prob. SL lets us make our own world. You may even be right about the numbers who flock to Combat sims (I doubt it but I have no idea, nor do you). Doesn't matter. For now you're stuck with RP (where as has been pointed out this kind of flat-out advertising is not allowed) or the Destination Guide.

If people who are looking for combat sims come here, they'll probably do what everyone else does: ask a question, usually in General Discussion. With the wide spectrum of residents who contribute here I'm sure there will be plenty of suggestions.

Everyone thinks what they like should be a forum section. Why just the other day I saw someone wanting a Bacon Forum. BACON! What is it with these bacon people? They're as bad as the Vampires. Oh wait....the Vampires did have a Forum once, for a short period of time.

[Parx Oran]

2 minutes ago, Dillon Levenque said:

For now you're stuck with RP

And I'm doing my best to change that. Non-roleplay related subjects should not get moved to the roleplay section. I'm trying to find a home for a largely participated in subject that has no place in any currently existing subforum.

[Grevan Snowdrop]

1 hour ago, Tari Landar said:

 I tried to get a clear answer as to where the rp aspect line is drawn..and got nowhere, as I suspected I would. You didn't do anything to clear that up by pointing out other flavors of RP that are "not you". [...]

Obviously you did not bother to read my comment at all, or you picked that little part of it that could be bend to fit your narrowed view on the situation to pretend the rest is not there.

The SLMC was NOT formed to support roleplay. When we meet up for groupactivities, we DO NOT focus on roleplay. We are NOT roleplayers.

So this is NOT at all about if we fit in with roleplayers or not, or who defines roleplay how, since our hobby is completely different. So you can try to come up with as many similarities as you like, but that doesn't change that there is a whole community out there that is forced in to a drawyer we don't belong in to. 

 

Right now, if we were to try to bring the combat community together to discuss matters like "Reduce your lagg by evoiding these scripting mistakes on weapons, tanks and gear."; and someone was to ask me were that thread went, I might have to answer: "Oh, that is on page three in the Role Play subforum, between  'Bear in his mid fourties looking for young men' and 'My troubles of being a diaper-fur'."

Edited December 2, 2017 by Grevan Snowdrop

[Tari Landar]

1 minute ago, Grevan Snowdrop said:

Obviously you did not bother to read my comment at all, or you picked that little part of it that could be bend to fit your narrowed view on the situation to pretend the rest ist not there.

The SLMC was NOT formed to support roleplay. When we met up for groupactivities, we DO NOT focus on roleplay. We are NOT roleplayers.

So this is NOT at all about if wenn fit in with roleplayers or not, since our hobby is completely different. So you can try to come up with as many similarities as you like, but that doesn't Chance that there is a whole community out there that is forced in to a drawyer wenn don't belong in to. 

Umm....da hell.... nice rant, lol.

No one is *forcing anyone into anything, no one ever even said you had to use the sl forums at all. When other communities in sl find that there isn't a space on the forums for them.....they make their own. It really is that simple...and free...and easier on your community as a whole. I don't understand what is so difficult about that. I've had a chat with some nice folks that participate in SLMC...and perhaps you ought to be reaching out to your community, cuz not all of them agree with y'all...and *every single one of them I have talked to, would much rather have their own forums anyway....:shrugs:::...Why do you think you get to speak for all combat, when you only participate in one flavor? 

MY combat, is rp...and I'm pretty sure that even folks who don't agree with me on that can accept that it is *my* combat, *my* sl, *my* experience, *my* entertainment..and I can label it whatever the hell I want, lol. They may not want me labeling THEIR combat as rp...and I get it(so I won't), they define it differently. But this is a topic about ALL combat-is it not? If you don't want me discussing *my* flavor of combat...then perhaps the thread isn't about all combat at all, but rather *your* flavor. I wouldn't have commented at all if it was a thread solely about SLMC(and as has been pointed out, multiple times, this thread isn't "supposed" to be about ONLY SLMC but rather..all combat)......Therefore..my flavor fits...and my flavor..is rp  

See...I could be an ass and go round and round and round with folks....and I have...but between that round and round, stopped calling *all* combat rp, I also offered advice that would better serve YOUR community...I suggest looking into it if you don't want my flavor of combat here  

 

[Parx Oran]

19 minutes ago, Dillon Levenque said:

some stuff i'm not gonna bother responding to (idk how to get rid of the quote dialogue box)

THIS JUST IN, THE LINDENS HAVE REMOVED AT LEAST THE CC'S THREADS FROM THE ROLEPLAY SECTION

So small victory yay~ but there should still be a combat subforum. Thread subject still stands. Combat related posts should go into the combat section.

Edited December 2, 2017 by Parx Oran

[Kallaniden Sands]

1 hour ago, Tari Landar said:

 I tried to get a clear answer as to where the rp aspect line is drawn..and got nowhere, as I suspected I would. You didn't do anything to clear that up by pointing out other flavors of RP that are "not you". Umm, yeah, I kinda now that already. Not all things labeled as rp are identical, some are so vastly different, it's unreal....doesn't make them "not rp", simply..a different *flavor, *style, whatever have you...still rp. RP can be loads of different things, it's simply ONE label, a blanket term, used to describe lots of different kinds of activities. 

I might attempt to explain it in my own views. Take it as you will.

Role playing gaming, in SL, has different layers. There's the aspect of being a character (in your case being Tari Landar), and then there's the aspect of being a character AS that character. The latter is the type of role playing I think you are currently associating this category in, which I guess I'll call "Second Role Playing," SRP for short. In essence, yes, you are representing a role as a character in any game, but the difference between role playing and any other game category is that you have a story that you are developing in your own words and actions. In SLMC, the objective is simple: Spawn, attack, succeed/fail, game over. If it were an SRP situation, I'd imagine the objective would be: Spawn, engage in story building discourse, combat, succeed/fail, continue the story. 

Edited December 2, 2017 by Kallaniden Sands

[Dillon Levenque]

12 minutes ago, Parx Oran said:

THIS JUST IN, THE LINDENS HAVE REMOVED AT LEAST THE CC'S THREADS FROM THE ROLEPLAY SECTION

So small victory yay~ but there should still be a combat subforum. Thread subject still stands. Combat related posts should go into the combat section.

If you're not going to bother responding to my "stuff", why lead your post by 'quoting' me? Just say your piece. Also, what the Hell is CC? I don't really care but since you're flinging acronyms around, it's usually considered good form to give the full name the first time, with a parenthetical for the acronym. As in 'Scholastic Aptitude Test (SAT)'.

Edited December 2, 2017 by Dillon Levenque

[Parx Oran]

Just now, Dillon Levenque said:

If you're not going to bother responding to my "stuff", why lead your post by 'quoting' me? Just say your piece. Also, what the Hell is CC? I don't really care but since you're flinging acronyms around, it's usually considered good form to give the full name the first time, with a parenthetical for the acronym. As in Scholastic Aptitude Test (SAT).

CC is the widely used short abbreviation for the SLMC faction I, and a few others, are representing.

The reason I quoted you is because i hit the quote button, and didn't know how to keep it from quoting because I no longer wanted to quote you.

[Tari Landar]

1 minute ago, Kallaniden Sands said:

I might attempt to explain it in my own views. Take it as you will.

Role playing gaming, in SL, has different layers. There's the aspect of being a character (in your case being Tari Landar), and then there's the aspect of being a character AS that character. The latter is the type of role playing I think you are currently associating this category in, which I guess I'll call "Second Role Playing," SRP for short. In essence, yes, you are representing a role as a character in any game, but the difference between role playing and any other game category is that you have a story that you are developing, in your own words and actions. In SLMC, the objective is simple: Spawn, attack, succeed/fail, game over. If it were am SRP situation, I'd imagine the objective would be: Spawn, engage in story building discourse, combat, succeed/fail, continue the story. 

See...some folks can do a much better job of explaining things, so..thank you. I do understand that,  at least you offered a better explanation than just going off like a loon, lol. 

But, to expand on your explanation-which is very good- I AM, personally(me and me only) playing secondary roles in sl. It's not necessarily a character development, storyline, etc... When I go out to shoot/engage in combat, I'm pretending Tari is a badass that likes to shoot people, no storyline, no emoting, no building up to anything, just go out there...shoot and try not to die myself...Is she really like that, in every other facet of her sl? Nope, she's pretty mild, and doesn't much interact with a whole lot of other people-outside of the few activities I enjoy participating in with other residents, because she tends to wander the grid a LOT. See...this is, I believe..where we part ways on rp vs not rp....I see characters as roles. even, as you described it(quite well) secondary roles, and others do not. I'm cool with that(really, I am, I promise, even if it may not sound like that, lol).

What I'm not cool with, is people(and no, it wasn't Kallaniden, this is a general add-on to my reply lol)  im-ing me inworld(please, for the love of all that is holy, folks, leave forum discussions in the forums unless asked otherwise...my friggen inbox won't shut up, lol) and telling me how *I* should define *my* combat. You all can define yours however you want, and I'll tell you...awesome, I'm glad you found an activity that you enjoy, feel free to call it whatever you wish, and I'll even mean it. (seriously, I do mean that, I am grateful that sl offers us all such a wide variety of entertainment-that wasn't snark). But, telling me that NO combat is rp..is just plain silly-and that's what caused thmerry go round to start. And people going off half cocked at me in im, sending me ncs and other stupid stuff because I've offended their flavor of combat..nope...that's just not kosher.