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My last ex, we hit an AFK place for fun. So one time I went by myself to see if it did the same effect.

Imagine my surprise when an "AFK" said "Hello" and tried friending me.

That was my last time.

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6 minutes ago, Laoise Rumsford said:

My last ex, we hit an AFK place for fun. So one time I went by myself to see if it did the same effect.

Imagine my surprise when an "AFK" said "Hello" and tried friending me.

That was my last time.

creepy :S

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1 hour ago, Laoise Rumsford said:

My last ex, we hit an AFK place for fun. So one time I went by myself to see if it did the same effect.

Imagine my surprise when an "AFK" said "Hello" and tried friending me.

That was my last time.

whats worse? People in an afk place that say hello? Or people in a regular place that don't say anything?

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1 hour ago, Laoise Rumsford said:

Mmhm, then he asked for a tip when I stood up to get away. 

Oh you were gonna do the naughty and not leave a tip? 

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6 minutes ago, Phorumities said:

Oh you were gonna do the naughty and not leave a tip? 

not necessarily.  she might have left a tip if they had been afk which is the reason she went there.

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AFK can mean a lot of things, including, obviously, being tabbed out or mainly doing something else. Being active when someone sits dramatically increases the chances of getting good (200-1000L range) tips. It does sound like they were just desperate for lindens, but people who freak out at any sign of activity from their partner should probably leave those sims.

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34 minutes ago, Desudesudesuka said:

AFK can mean a lot of things, including, obviously, being tabbed out or mainly doing something else.

Actually it means one thing and one thing only. It's an abbreviation for "away from keyboard"... so please don't wonder if somone spooks when you are not. Basically if you are not really away from keyboard one could call you a liar...

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On 2-8-2018 at 11:50 PM, Laoise Rumsford said:

My last ex, we hit an AFK place for fun. So one time I went by myself to see if it did the same effect.

Imagine my surprise when an "AFK" said "Hello" and tried friending me.

That was my last time.

It is bad practice indeed, specially if you are already being used. People visit AFK for a reason. Then again, you would be surprised how many friend request you will receive from visitors while being AFK.

AFK sims are generally just that, places for AFK sex. But also a lot of non AFK goes on, girls having regular returning guests, or guests that send IM's to abut the entire sim in hope that a girl is not AFK. And they do rake in higher tips.

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11 hours ago, Fionalein said:

Actually it means one thing and one thing only. It's an abbreviation for "away from keyboard"... so please don't wonder if somone spooks when you are not. Basically if you are not really away from keyboard one could call you a liar...

Literally also means literally. As we get into semantics AFK means away from keyboard but you will find at AFK sims it means things ranging from "asleep,"  to actually "away from SL playing a game" or "logged into 3 different accounts in this AFK sim and others, potentially keeping tabs." The sims happen to be called "afk sims," but are also tagged with escort, etc. in many cases. It's also possible to return from this afk state, say hi, and send an unsolicited friend request. If someone felt like it, upon ceasing AFKness, they could stop sitting and TP away - that would really be a mood killer.

Of course, before messaging anyone using a doll of yours it's probably good to make a judgement call of whether that is a good idea. If they look like the type to enjoy some RP, but resort to their current activity, giving them some RP may be fun for all involved and secure a tip. It's not black and white.

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On 7/18/2018 at 9:54 AM, Fionalein said:

Please report back after a while if another user's astronomical income claims stated in an infamous locked related thread are true.

It is true.  Just visit that Sleeping Beauty place and look at the individual tip boards.  They range anywhere from $1,000-20,000, and more.  I'm pretty sure those tips are from an extended period of time though, possibly a month or more.  Astronomical is relative, but it's still income regardless.

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On 8/2/2018 at 5:00 PM, Laoise Rumsford said:

Mmhm, then he asked for a tip when I stood up to get away. 

Well, it depends on the sim's rules.  If you used someone in a hut, tips are usually required.  He/she was probably upset that you wasted their time, and possibly prevented someone else from tipping them.  That's like going to a strip club and having the dancer do what you want then leaving without a tip.  It's quite rude.

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9 hours ago, Nextio said:

Well, it depends on the sim's rules.  If you used someone in a hut, tips are usually required.  He/she was probably upset that you wasted their time, and possibly prevented someone else from tipping them.  That's like going to a strip club and having the dancer do what you want then leaving without a tip.  It's quite rude.

breaking the service agreed on (not being there and leaving customer in total contol - yes it's creepy but that is what you offer, if you can't don't go to those places) - and after that even begging for tips are enough reasons to get you booted in most tip based professions in SL - so no, not tipping that person is not rude ... quite the contrary ...

Tips are given of free will, mandatory tips are not tips anymore and should not be called such - find another scripted solution instead of misleading tip jars if you think of another business model. Sim rules that contradict the obvious service offered are moronic (don't call your business something that it isn't if you want to be successful).

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I remember I fell asleep one time at the club I was working at..It was a dance club and I wasn't on a pose ball or anything like that..

I just fell asleep at the wheel or the chair or keyboard,however the saying goes..

So the other people that worked there thought they would have some fun since I didn't have mystitool back then and no move lock..

They bumped into me knocking me off the dance floor,out the front door and all the way around to the back of the club ,until they finally pushed me off the cliff out back..

I woke up and I was at the bottom of the cliff not knowing where I was..

 

They said they were cracking up the whole time..

Heck,I would have paid to see them working like that to knock me off the cliff ,that would have had me crying laughing seeing them all just bumping away,lining back up to bump again..

hehehehe

I've fallen asleep in worse places though also..:$

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On August 5, 2018 at 7:33 PM, Nextio said:

It is true.  Just visit that Sleeping Beauty place and look at the individual tip boards.  They range anywhere from $1,000-20,000, and more.  I'm pretty sure those tips are from an extended period of time though, possibly a month or more.  Astronomical is relative, but it's still income regardless.

I used to dance in a sim that has now closed, but I was able to bring in over 20,000 a month when it was still open, that requires showing up every day and being chatty, (it wasn't an AFK place). Since it closed I have not found a place as good, but that could be due to the fact that I don't put the time in anymore.

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I have no problem with AFK sex businesses as a concept. The problem I have with them is two-fold. First, the bots or afk avatars are there all the time but not registered as a scripted agent. They skew the traffic numbers to the point that no matter what you look for anymore a good portion of the results seem to be an afk sex place. Second, the laggiest things in SL are avatars. So when a place opens up in a 1/16th of a sim and logs in a couple dozen afk sexbots it monopolizes all the sim resources. If they own or rent the whole sim, great. Do whatever you like. But don't move in next door to me and expect me be happy about it. I'm guessing a lot of the private islands are not allowing them unless they rent the whole sim for that reason. Which means they'll probably be popping up all over the mainland in Zindra and lagging all the sims there instead. 

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19 minutes ago, Tomomi Fukai said:

They skew the traffic numbers to the point that no matter what you look for anymore a good portion of the results seem to be an afk sex place.

Your experiences seem to be vastly different than mine.  If not for this thread I would never have known they existed. Traffic has a minimal impact for search results ever since the changes in 2008 or so.  It can skew traffic but it will not affect search order.

A far as lag, it's much like having a club open up on your sim.  Just tonight we went to a well known music venue where 16 people included Clover, myself, one other person and the rest employees, most of which were either AFK or in IM's.  This has always been a problem with mainland.  On the plus side, all of those people on that parcel will only use that parcel's share of CPU cycles and no more. 24 people on 1/16 of a sim should no impact the performance on the other 15/16ths of the sim.  You will get local fps drop when camming over there, obviously, but the full sim will not be effected.  De-render or just plan don't look over there and you will not notice a thing.

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21 hours ago, Rhonda Huntress said:

Traffic has a minimal impact for search results ever since the changes in 2008 or so.  It can skew traffic but it will not affect search order.

Unless you're an old boot like some of us (including me) are who use the faster legacy search which is ordered by traffic by default. ?

 

22 hours ago, Tomomi Fukai said:

afk avatars are there all the time but not registered as a scripted agent

Regular users who intentionally hang out at AFK places do not need to be registered as scripted agents, because they aren't.

It's been pretty funny seeing around 10-15 avatars disappear from a club almost at the same time though, obviously all being run on the same machine.

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It just seems odd when there are so many regular avies in adult fields, venues and groups/sims.. Just seems kind of sad. .but then guess its their choice.. Still odd though..

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I'm really not convinced that "AFK sex avatars" are as we would assume, actual avatars piloted by distinct individual real people who just decide to park them AFK at a sex place.

Bot Sex is more like it 80% .. 95% of the time.

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21 hours ago, Wulfie Reanimator said:

Unless you're an old boot like some of us (including me) are who use the faster legacy search which is ordered by traffic by default. 

 

Regular users who intentionally hang out at AFK places do not need to be registered as scripted agents, because they aren't.

It's been pretty funny seeing around 10-15 avatars disappear from a club almost at the same time though, obviously all being run on the same machine.

When I look for places to socialize I'm looking for places where people are, which means I sort the results by traffic and look on the map to see how many people are there. TPing into a place where everyone is AFK is literally like walking into a bar where everyone is asleep. And while AFK users aren't scripted agents and don't have to be registered as such, they might as well be for as much as they do.

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Traffic's poor role in relevance and known problems with gaming the system have been issues for many years.  That's why it was greatly reduced.  Sorting by traffic is like sorting alphabetically and complaining that all the A's are at the top. It is literally sorting by who games the system most.

Even with sorting by traffic, what are your search terms that give you these AFK sex places? 

On 8/24/2018 at 10:44 PM, Tomomi Fukai said:

no matter what you look for

I just tried searching places for "Town Square."  There is only one adult land on the first page sorted by traffic.  It has a traffic of 485 and zero people currently on that sim.

 

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34 minutes ago, Rhonda Huntress said:

Even with sorting by traffic, what are your search terms that give you these AFK sex places

Try "furry" or "hangout" with adult sims included.

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On 25 August 2018 at 4:44 AM, Tomomi Fukai said:

I have no problem with AFK sex businesses as a concept.

Good for you...

On 25 August 2018 at 4:44 AM, Tomomi Fukai said:

The problem I have with them is two-fold.

Oh wait... Here we go again... Same old same old, I'm guessing...

On 25 August 2018 at 4:44 AM, Tomomi Fukai said:

First, the bots or afk avatars are there all the time but not registered as a scripted agent.

Avatars ONLY need to be registered as "scripted agents" if they are run by a "client side Script" application, such as a Bot-Client, and parked on a parcel. AFK Avatars do NOT need to be registered as anything .

On 25 August 2018 at 4:44 AM, Tomomi Fukai said:

They skew the traffic numbers to the point that no matter what you look for anymore a good portion of the results seem to be an afk sex place

Learn to use search better...

On 25 August 2018 at 4:44 AM, Tomomi Fukai said:

Second, the laggiest things in SL are avatars. So when a place opens up in a 1/16th of a sim and logs in a couple dozen afk sexbots it monopolizes all the sim resources.

No more than a couple of dozen Club goers at a popular dance spot, or a couple of dozen "sexy fun lovers" on an Adult Nude Orgy Beach... Etc., etc., etc...

On 25 August 2018 at 4:44 AM, Tomomi Fukai said:

I'm guessing a lot of the private islands are not allowing them unless they rent the whole sim for that reason.

Yes, you are guessing... But I hadn't noticed the Islands Estate firms that run A rated sims having ANY problem allowing adult clubs etc., on their "commercial activity" rentals, they LIKE places that pay the rent regularly...

On 25 August 2018 at 4:44 AM, Tomomi Fukai said:

Which means they'll probably be popping up all over the mainland in Zindra

Congratulations... You are at least 12 months out of date...

On 27 August 2018 at 1:11 AM, Tomomi Fukai said:

When I look for places to socialize I'm looking for places where people are, which means I sort the results by traffic and look on the map to see how many people are there.

So... You sort a list of places by traffic, read the list, pick a name off the list, display it on the map and count the green dots... Fair enough, In principle, a sound plan.

But it seems you have an obvious flaw in your plan...

On 27 August 2018 at 1:11 AM, Tomomi Fukai said:

TPing into a place where everyone is AFK is literally like walking into a bar where everyone is asleep.

"Ok! Time to use my LEET SL searcvh skills...

Search for...[tappity tappity tap on keyboard]

Top five listed places are

1. AFK Shag HUT - Adults only come shag our AFK lovelies...

2. The AFK Romp Room... blah blah...

3. Sleepy Ho's AFK Sex Palace...

4. Club Babes-Not-At-Their-Keyboards...

5. Whiners Club - The place where Ignorant SL-Fossils hang out to share their self centered complaints that SL isn't like it was 11 years ago!

Hmmm, which should I pick, I know I'll try #4... Open the map... 15 green dots, on an A rated sim, on Zindra... Lets go! bound to be interesting conversations about how bad SL has become since 2007 there!

OH NOE! It's full of naked female AFK avis being molested by naked guys... Not a single whiners conversation happening anywhere... I feel so CHEATED!

I shall repair to the forums and post some whiny rants about this..."

...

On 27 August 2018 at 1:11 AM, Tomomi Fukai said:

And while AFK users aren't scripted agents and don't have to be registered as such, they might as well be for as much as they do.

Believe it or not... Other SL citizens are under exactly NO obligation to spend their SecondLives doing what YOU want them to do, because it's what you like to do, or to do that WITH you.

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I wonder if the guys that frequent these places care if the female AFK sex doll is really a male RL.

 

 

(disclaimer I only read up to page 4)

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