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1 hour ago, Pussycat Catnap said:

The AVs they use are free because the maker of them moved on to better stuff about 10 years ago... and no actual furry would ever wear it save for the newbies who come up in furry clubs and ask for sex and jobs... (a bit like the TMP body using noobs in human clubs).

The difference being, the free bodies from TMP and Furries won't get another avatar banned trivially and without appeal - the Lab have a zero tolerance policy here and it's the only AR they will always act on. 

Anyway, I think it's important not to get this thread deleted, as Zeta rightly wishes above, it has to stay as a warning that...

Just as you are 100% responsible for what happens when you give someone your password, you are also 100% responsible if you AFK.

It is always terrible when people are permabanned, we can be super thankful that Zeta had a rare reprive.

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7 hours ago, Pussycat Catnap said:

How long ago was that place there?

I remember finding one of these place on Zindra 4 or 5 years ago.

It vanished about a week after I found it - and I have no idea how long it was there beforehand.

Le'Camping?  I have no idea but now that i think about it, i sort of remember coming across it around 4 years ago, so perhaps you're right.  It changed it's name to Le'Parking now though, or something similar.  I'm not too familiar with the whole AFK history since i stumbled upon it a little over a year ago.

 

4 hours ago, Pussycat Catnap said:

I notice that most of the AVs on these places are the same 'pale youthful blond' look you see all over SL. Which means they're not unique - guys will likely just park it at the one closest to the rez point.

If you DO want to get somewhere in this kind of scene... be different looking.

That said... SL users seem to... not be very diverse in interest... But even given that... have something about you that makes you stand out from the crowd of naked blond women AFK pleasuring themselves...

I kind of suspect that the very look that gets me mostly ignored in social venues - ie the fact that I'm not Caucasian - would get me focused on by people with fetishes if they thought I'm AFK... that kind of bothers me though...

 

I have had mixed results with that approach.  I've tried being different from goth, punk, anime, exotic, etc.  The sad truth is, the generic blonde with big boobs always gets me more L$.  Not too young or too old.  Somewhere in the middle.  The classy styles with jewelry, heels, and bodycon dresses, etc.  Always works.  The current fashion trends hardly ever work because i'm guessing most men are older so they want a more mature woman, not a 20 something year old.  The big curvy and plus-sized avatars also get a lot of people too.  The younger/loli/teen/anime styles that border on tweens/child avatars get a lot of people too, but it's extremely risky and not to mention sickening on a personal level.

And yes, non-caucasians are extremely popular but for reasons you mentioned, as a fetish.

Orcs and fantasy avatars are usually not allowed on most sims.  The most fantasy i've seen at these places were basically elves with pointy ears and wings.  I've yet to see an exclusive fantasy AFK sim.  It would be interesting if one popped up.

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4 hours ago, Lysana McMillan said:

If I knew what the money potential was, the small output to bring one of my alts up to mesh and plop her down might be a sound investment.

On a good day, you can make $200-500+, but i've seen people, including myself, go days without any tips.  It's all about patience.  I wish i could give an average, but it's been very volatile and variable these days, but if i had to guess, the average would be anywhere from $50, $100, or $200 a day.  If  you're lucky, you can make up to $1000 a week or more.

Bottom line:  Your avatar needs to be top notch if you want to generate hundreds of lindens a day.  Standard head and body isn't going to cut it these days.  They will still work but it will take longer to get lindens that way.  I started with the free TMP body and EVE head, but this was over a year ago when the AFK scene was largely unknown with only a handful of places listed, so it really wasn't a problem for me to get tips.

You also have to choose the right venues and spots.  If the place is too busy, it's more competitive; but if traffic is too low, then it's difficult getting any tips.  If the furniture you're on sucks, men will move to someone else.  You got to find the right balance.  If you don't mind paying for a rental within the sim, you could always take that approach too.  You'll also have access to leave notices in the group to generate more traffic.

 

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10 hours ago, Zeta Vandyke said:

After closing the support ticket you get to valuate it, give it a score and comment if wanted. I think if you give them the worst scores possible that the closed ticket goes past the support supervisor. Because 15 minutes ago I received an email from her, and they reviewed my case even after closing it down, and they just released all my accounts!!

I have asked if AFK sims are still this much of a risk to accounts, or if it really was a misunderstanding, since I still do not know the details. Will follow up if I get an answer.

This has me extremely nervous now.  I usually check in on my avatar every 1-3 hours when i'm home, but i'm not always home either, and sometimes i'm just busy elsewhere in the house or outside in the yard, but knowing that we can be banned just for being AFK is scary.  I hope sim owners read your story and start to protect their places and dolls.  It might be time for them to start hiring security.  I know some of them do, but not all of them.  I hope you get everything resolved. 

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I have been in contact with a few other AFK sim owners, and its taken very seriously. As long as LL does not give a good explanation on what exactly happened, and if the risk is in being AFK or something else happened we just dont really know how to act on it? Maybe there was just general adult sex and someone reported my alt for being minor. He has a cute face though no one really would consider it of minor age. (adult body, shape, head, tattoos and all etc.) but I just don't know what happened and that is quite frustrating.

The AFK traffic is insanely high, and its mostly the people who sit AFK so thats a LOT of people that could potentially be at risk. Would be lovely if LL gave an explanation or statement on the risk of sitting AFK thing.

Some AFK sim owners are seriously considering changing direction way from AFK. (me included)

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21 minutes ago, Derekmate said:

Maybe the change the sex part ? You can do a city with afk ppl siting in shops, doing stuff 

Now that would be a funny LEA project, a PG AFK city to explore and of course to idle, donate your AFK self to make the city look alive.... but I doubt that earns the AFK-ers any tips... 

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5 minutes ago, Fionalein said:

Now that would be a funny LEA project, a PG AFK city to explore and of course to idle, donate your AFK self to make the city look alive.... but I doubt that earns the AFK-ers any tips... 

on the upside less chance for permanent ban 

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1 hour ago, Derekmate said:

Maybe the change the sex part ? You can do a city with afk ppl siting in shops, doing stuff 

If I leave Zeta behind unattended in a shop she will bankrupt me...

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1 minute ago, Zeta Vandyke said:

If I leave Zeta behind unattended in a shop she will bankrupt me...

Try a hardver store 

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Sure people might be AFK... 

 

But you don't know the background of the other person..

Maybe the person is shy, can never ask a girl/guy out or wants to try and explore themselves.

Maybe they don't have the money to spend on a real escort.. There is alot of factors that come into play.

 

I am not against them, but they should be on Adult sims. I have found a few on Moderate regions on my travels..

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On 2/27/2018 at 5:25 AM, Zeta Vandyke said:

I have been in contact with a few other AFK sim owners, and its taken very seriously. As long as LL does not give a good explanation on what exactly happened, and if the risk is in being AFK or something else happened we just dont really know how to act on it? Maybe there was just general adult sex and someone reported my alt for being minor. He has a cute face though no one really would consider it of minor age. (adult body, shape, head, tattoos and all etc.) but I just don't know what happened and that is quite frustrating.

I have been visited by the Lindens personally at my AFK sim and have had a nice chat. I've called them on a couple of occasions because I do not want to break TOS. The renters at my sim are very active in group chat, and we keep a very close eye on everyone that enters the sim. We will simply eject anyone that even comes close to resembling a minor. There is not one bot on our sim. We don't operate that way. I'm not in competition for anyone with traffic. I feel there are an average of 50,000 avis on the grid - plenty of business for all of us. If other business are upset that they can't compete with the traffic, why not just put "not afk" in your description so you can rank with us? I seen one do that the other day and though...you sly little sucker, but it's smart. Good for them. In the end, I try not to take it all too seriously. I hope we all do well - AFK or not. Good luck, everyone! <3

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12 minutes ago, faith Jolifaunt said:

I've called them on a couple of occasions because I do not want to break TOS

Would be nice though if they gave a statement about who gets in trouble if a child avie does manage to get in unnoticed and use an AFK model. The only answer I got so far was a standard copy/past e-mail. 

Lovely job on your new sim design by the way!

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If LL specifically called out the details of certain violations, that would leave a trail that could be published, resulting in negative publicity. That would be my guess why details aren’t always given.

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I didn't realize such places existed until recently, and now I am beginning to realize how many of them there are, lol.  I can totally see the appeal for women, create a bot, spend a little $ to equip it, then make it back, plus a bunch more, in tips (thought you are depending the honor system, so..). Guys, what is the appeal for you?  To me it just seems like the cyber equivalent of the blow-up doll, which I also see as pointless.  Do I wish they didn't exist?  Yeah probably, but hey, if there's demand, then why not.

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On ‎11‎/‎6‎/‎2017 at 12:49 PM, Zeta Vandyke said:

I actualy own a AFK sim, so I disagree :)

In RL people do not generally visit the red light district for a good conversation either, so I see no problem in the "just sex no talk" approach.

But this is worse than the red light district, this is blow-up doll territory (for the ones who truly are AFK), which, to me, is pointless.

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28 minutes ago, Leander Philbin said:

But this is worse than the red light district, this is blow-up doll territory (for the ones who truly are AFK), which, to me, is pointless.

This would be more comparable with *****ing a real but mute girl :)

A blow up doll is plastic and fake. These are the SL equivalent of real girls that you can have sex with, they just don't talk.

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I wonder if some guys like it because the AFK dolls are “quiet and compliant”, and probably wouldn’t give the guy the time of Day normally (whether due to his attitude, approach, or just eww)?

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12 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

I wonder if some guys like it because the AFK dolls are “quiet and compliant”, and probably wouldn’t give the guy the time of Day normally (whether due to his attitude, approach, or just eww)?

Oh no not at all.. well some are of course. But there a lot of really good looking avies showing up too. And I actually have talked with quite a few and some of them are the nicest most friendly people. Some just like the visual aspect of it, and don't like emoting/roleplaying. Others do roleplay in their own mind while they are with a girl on the sim. Had quite a few that wanted a quickie with a girl that was not their current partner, and its pretty low risk and drama free with an AFK doll. Other that were just experimenting, like they had girl partner and came here to play with a guy or shemale. Many different reasons why they visit.

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From the flip side of that... I'm not really interested in emoting with somebody I have no desire to meet again... I do NOT do SL relationships. Get emotions like that into SL and you're asking for RL issues... But I enjoy the animations and the visual side of it.

So the appeal for me to 'sit there AFK' in one of these place is to get that visual, and not have to deal with the other person... especially annoying is dealing with very annoying IMs from people hitting on me in clumsy or crude or even hostile ways...

This is basically a 'digital glory hole'... You just park your goods up at one end of the wall and wait for something to enter you or mount you from the other side of the wall... o.OO.o
- Which makes it seem pretty weird and freaky... and I imagine a real life version of something like this would be...

But in SL it's just basically a porn channel staring your avatar.

 

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On 3/16/2018 at 4:10 PM, Zeta Vandyke said:

Other that were just experimenting, like they had girl partner and came here to play with a guy or shemale

I didn't think of that.  We could log on male alts for a little yaoi time.

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50 minutes ago, Rhonda Huntress said:

I didn't think of that.  We could log on male alts for a little yaoi time.

*perks*

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On February 21, 2018 at 6:05 AM, Zeta Vandyke said:

This is very true. Generaly the girls I know only do non AFK sex when they get tipped in advance, else they just don't do it.

It only takes one time to learn that, "I will pay you when we finish, is a big fat lie"

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