MsChowMein

What are the legal requirements to DJ in SL?

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The main reason DJs in SL "get away" with streaming music in clubs is simple.. There is no money to be made by talking them to court. Seriously, DJs get what, $500L an hour if they are lucky? $2 USD an hour? No DJ in SL is getting rich. 

Every single law about copyright has a little loophole in it, they all say "for profit" somewhere. If you don't make any money, you aren't making profit. 

That being said, yeah, it is illegal. But on the scale of things in SL that are illegal and should be banned, it's fairly low on the list. 

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5 hours ago, Drake1 Nightfire said:

The main reason DJs in SL "get away" with streaming music in clubs is simple.. There is no money to be made by talking them to court. Seriously, DJs get what, $500L an hour if they are lucky? $2 USD an hour? No DJ in SL is getting rich. 

Every single law about copyright has a little loophole in it, they all say "for profit" somewhere. If you don't make any money, you aren't making profit.

True...however some DJs play 3-4 sets everyday - music downloaded from youtube (some buy from itunes) - some got sam broadcaster pirated- some adult zoned clubs pay+tips (i myself hang out at those where the DJs make 2500- 3k on an average set (2hrs) and the dancers/hosts make 1200-1500 and i used to be a PH for such a DJ so trust me the earning isnt as little as most people think it to be as playing 2-3 sets almost 4-5 days a week year after year illegally is quite something ! 

but yeah i dont think anybody is going to police the music inworld anytime soon even if they do djs have no legal obligation to show track titles so yeah they can "get away" with it i believe ~ its why i asked about licensing needs and wanted to be sure i needed 1 before starting my own dj career in sl ~ since its pretty expensive legally im going to stick with hosting hehe

 

PS: doing my own research too xD

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1 minute ago, Gadget Portal said:

Funny story, according to BMI, venues in SL are responsible for licenses for their DJs.

SL is a legal mine field when it comes to DJs. Definitely do all the research you can.

My country requires performers anywhere (rl or sl) a license i checked some hours back lol so im just going to keep doing paid hosting gigs xD 

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5 hours ago, MsChowMein said:

True...however some DJs play 3-4 sets everyday - music downloaded from youtube (some buy from itunes) - some got sam broadcaster pirated- some adult zoned clubs pay+tips (i myself hang out at those where the DJs make 2500- 3k on an average set (2hrs) and the dancers/hosts make 1200-1500 and i used to be a PH for such a DJ so trust me the earning isnt as little as most people think it to be as playing 2-3 sets almost 4-5 days a week year after year illegally is quite something

 

No, it really isn't "quite something." That is the rarity, the average is much less. Even at 2500 per set, 3 sets a day for 4 days,  you only get $120USD a week. At 3 sets a day, i would doubt you have a full time RL job.  With having to put together the sets and then DJing for 6 hours, broken into 3 two hour blocks. So, you are STILL making only $5 USD an hour. It's not like the copybots on the MP who just slap creators stuff on there and sit back an the money rolls in. DJing is actual work. You also need a good voice presence, the ability to talk fluidly, and have a metric *****e ton of music. If someone requests some random song, you better have it. 

I used to DJ in RL as well as SL, the RL license i bought covered Digital as well as live broadcasting. It cost me almost 1000 USD. However, I made that back after one RL gig. How many months of work would it take in SL? even if you were lucky enough to get a $3K a gig SL gig? 2 or 3 months of work? Not worth it. 

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19 minutes ago, Drake1 Nightfire said:

No, it really isn't "quite something."

By 'quite something' I meant those few DJs are getting away making that much money illegally , some without having to even pay for their music -like someone in this thread said i cant dj even if  i buy music from spotify unless i have permission from them to do so ..yes most moderate clubs tips r very low so even tho this practice is highly illegal for many or most its profitless hence nobody cares about it happening - true thing

 

19 minutes ago, Drake1 Nightfire said:

At 3 sets a day, i would doubt you have a full time RL job.  

The DJ i was  a PH of was retired :P i know a lot of retired DJs who play for fun, and some DJs based in Asian countries do that for "extra income" besides rl job - in asia even 100$ a month is a lot (so thats profit for them without much expense if they r doing it illegally) also a lot of my friend hosts and dancers from asia work for the same purpose ~

Since some DJs r profiting many others r not....i dont think anybody will waste their time on this matter :P even tho it is illegal

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9 minutes ago, MsChowMein said:

By 'quite something' I meant those few DJs are getting away making that much money illegally , some without having to even pay for their music -like someone in this thread said i cant dj even if  i buy music from spotify unless i have permission from them to do so ..yes most moderate clubs tips r very low so even tho this practice is highly illegal for many or most its profitless hence nobody cares about it happening - true thing

 

The DJ i was  a PH of was retired :P i know a lot of retired DJs who play for fun, and some DJs based in Asian countries do that for "extra income" besides rl job - in asia even 100$ a month is a lot (so thats profit for them without much expense if they r doing it illegally) also a lot of my friend hosts and dancers from asia work for the same purpose ~

Since some DJs r profiting many others r not....i dont think anybody will waste their time on this matter :P even tho it is illegal

You are making huge assumptions that those DJs do not have licenses.. They may very well DJ in RL as well, as I did and have one. Please stop saying they are doing so illegally without proof. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Drake1 Nightfire said:

You are making huge assumptions that those DJs do not have licenses.. They may very well DJ in RL as well, as I did and have one. Please stop saying they are doing so illegally without proof. 

 

I am not making assumptions they themselves told me how they dj in sl like i said i have friends who work at clubs +  i am not talking about "all" the djs i am only talking about the ones I have known personally for many years

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Let me poke my nose in on this.  I used Loudradio for years to dj in SL.  but it was not cheap and I could only play what was in the genre that I payed for and had certain set of rules.  just like a real radio station.   but once prices went up, I bowed out.  royalties are a pain in the ass.

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