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Hi there! Noobie here in Sl and very interested in speaking with a "been there done that" adult entertainer. Im a very sexual (yet fairly private) person.. but interested in escorting and need advicw from a friendly fellow sl member

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Hi there.

I really wouldn't recommend escorting until you've gotten your bearings, most places won't hire you until then anyways. Start by getting a full mesh avatar and figuring things out. Are you wanting to do voice or text escorting?

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I'm really not sure. I've had players offer me ld's for just text.. I'm not sure what's in demand and what's worth persuing. I'm not really into voice/cam stuff. I've found myself in situation where I enjoyed encounters with ppl but in the long run I feel like this is where I should be making money. I'm not online very often.. but would eventually like to reward from such encounters.

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Find a place to dance, lots of guys will tip you just for the dance and you can make money without ever having to come off the pole. Of course you will get offers as well. Always be sure you get paid up front, and it is best if you make them pay you before you come down off the pole. No point in going all the way to their house just to find out they arn't serious about paying you, and believe me plenty of guys will do that, I guess they hope once you are there you will ***** them for free. While the best money is at the clubs that hire you to work, you can make good money and have more freedom if you start out finding places to freelance. That is what I did and never actually worked at a club. Don't believe the "you gotta be mesh to make money" line, yes a lot of clubs require it but i did very well before i switched to mesh, and I know plenty of other girls who do as well. What is more important is talking to the guys and building relationships with them. I use text, and I would IM every guy in the sim. Most just chatted with me but enough of them would come over and tip me to make it all worthwhile.

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How much would you usually charge a customer? What is too high or too low (If someone where to offer for lets say an hour of my time..) ?

I am still very new. I'm not 1000 sure what mesh is.. is it like layers? I recently bought new nipples that I had to apply to my skin.. that it?

 

Btw.. thanks for taking the time to help me :)

 

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Oh.. one last question. I remeber having the option of playing the game for free or paying. I opted for free. What are the perks, and should I be looking into playing the paid version? 

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I have been here almost two years and I play for free, One of the perks is a place to live, and the other is a linden allowance, if you are escorting you can earn your own so you won't need the allowance and pay for your own place. mesh is a type of avatar, the good ones are not cheep, you probably should get familiar with the whole process before you make that jump. What you charge depends on what services you provide, obviously voice or cam command a higher price than just text. very few guys will need an hour of your time though. I typically got 500L for text only and we usually were done in under an hour, I never timed anything though. Some guys like to try to be romantic and drag it out, which is odd in the situation. 

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On 5/3/2017 at 8:39 AM, CrestedLuna said:

Oh.. one last question. I remeber having the option of playing the game for free or paying. I opted for free. What are the perks, and should I be looking into playing the paid version? 

Before anyone jumps in attacking you.. 99.99999% of users hate when you call it a game. I have been a premium member, the perks.. not so much. Now i buy what $Ls i need, if i need them. Hit me up if you want some mesh clothing.. I give an outfit to new users if they contact me before 30 days and i have gifts in my store. 

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Oh yes don't call it a game, I doubt that it is 99.99999% of users, but a lot do get sensitive when you call it a game. There are games you can play in SL, some of them literal games like Greedy, and others not so literal, like stripping, it is just like life in that way. But SL itself isn't a game.

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Hi everyone ... Me and my sister Stella have been trying to be strippers and escorts in recent weeks. The truth Second Life already stinks on this topic. This comment is then to you see a tip, such as a bitter complaint or seeking guidance.
Since there are plenty of places to have free sex, no one is willing to pay for escort services, even if they do not always include sex (as far as my sister and me are concerned). Because most of the escorts that walk around charge very expensive, offering less than "normal" if on the one hand makes us attractive, does not produce the same gains to fill those expectations of some to hire someone with a Body mesh and expensive genitals, etc. We do not have a credit card, only debit and we live in RL per day, so we do not have more than a minimum budget.
We currently work in Big Bang as escorts and dancers. Here we do everything to win lindens, but it is becoming more difficult or more boring to fish, to hunt vaults, etc. (The "safest" way to win lindens).
As for dancing, it is the same, visitors very rarely pay tips. And if one works as an AFK escort, the same and worse, they use one without paying.
If that is added to the obtuse rules of many sims where there are plenty of disguised escorts and do not allow you to give your business card, it turns out that now we are even expelled from places where we could promote ourselves, earn money in vaults or games.
In truth, I left Second Life in 2011 because it had become extremely boring with no possibility of anything, no play, no meeting anyone (all friendships lasted a few days). Now I come back and with my sister, to make us a second life in shape, I see that there is more chance of making money and have fun, but I also see with sadness that either have relaxed the rules a lot or on the contrary, in some places they have done So it is impossible to enjoy Second Life. My sister was already expelled from one place and me from another, by the way, both very bad where each trip cause too much lag and it becomes impossible to move.
So, we are seriously considering one of two options, to leave this occupation or send the devil to Second Life, which would be a shame because we like this virtual world.
Any opinions or guidance? We are, not desperate, but disillusioned.

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How much money are you trying to make? cause getting rich is going to be close to impossible. I get most of my money dancing, number one rule, is be friendly to everyone, and chat a lot. Now and then i get escort opportunities, which I take, but that isn't the main thing. I can go weeks getting 100 to 200 L a day dancing before someone is willing to pay for sex. Yes they can get it for free, and yes most will. I suspect that those who pay an escort do so because they like the escort, and want to have sex with her. You have to be someone people like. As for getting kicked out of places don't let that bother you just move on, It has happened to me a few times. I think anyone who gets out there and draws attention to themselves the way you need to do to be appealing is going to also ruffle some feathers and get pushback, and that can lead to getting banned, there are always more places to go. As you make money, don't spend it all, save some of it for those times you don't make so much that way you never end up being totally broke because that can be discouraging.

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Thanks for answering my, our concern about escorting ... The truth is that we do feel bad. We do not charge less than 100L for our services (escort only) and from 200L we offer sex, with no time limit. We offer quality in the treatment better than anything we may lack as avatars. But we find that many places are very difficult, or even empty. My sister has been disrespected and that hurts.
Now, together we do not even add the 3000L between a few tips, which pay us in Big Bang ... Stella is the one who has won a little more as an escort with two customers who paid up to 1000L, but nothing more. The rest we have gained by fishing, in vaults, etc. We need to earn enough to be able to invest in us and be better and more attractive avatars, I already could buy a new and improved ***** and a "client" gave me Mama Allpa. But we have many things to achieve.
Your comment encourages us, but it also worries us.

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I'm going to weigh in on this...  Before you even think about going mesh, there is enough free things or really cheap clothing, skins, shoes, hair, etc to make a sexy avatar.  I sort of have to dis-agree with Beggar.  Back 3 years ago, I decided to try the whole escort thing.  One thing a lot of people don't understand, and like anything else... You have be will to put in the time.  You are not going to make a lot of L's right off the start with it all.   Yes, I do have a great mesh avatar and great clothes, etc.   But getting back to my point with it all.  I started pole dancing at Escort Oasis, I was making a few L's doing that, and it is getting to know people/clients.  Yeah, I sort of had a little of high price for my services.  But you will get a lot of guys trying to get it for free, and that is going to happen, but after a couple of weeks, I had a client willing to pay for a text service.  Then another guy that day that I have chatted to off and on, paid for my text services.  But it also helps if you are will to talk in world.  But I did offer a voice service also and yes, I set it on the high side.  But after like 3 weeks, and chatting with a lot of men, they were paying for my voice services.  Most would pay for like 15 minutes on Skype with me, but I would get a lot that would pay for 30 minutes.  Then thing about, I never had one of the voice session ever go over 10 minutes, I hear a few grunts from them on the other in about 5 or 6 minutes in.  Click, hang up.  I'm just pat myself on the back and got back to pole dancing.

I only escorted for like 4 month, but I was doing very well with it all.  Only thing that drove me away from it... There A LOT of really strange men out there with A LOT of strange fetishes.  They were willing to pay me more.  I just wasn't willing to go there with it all.  And those got to me more and more.  I was like... Enough, I'm out.  Wasn't worth the L's. 

But yeah...  If you are willing to really work at it and willing to put in the time and at least a couple of months before you really start making a lot of L's at it.  It can be done.

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On 5/3/2017 at 8:39 AM, CrestedLuna said:

Oh.. one last question. I remeber having the option of playing the game for free or paying. I opted for free. What are the perks, and should I be looking into playing the paid version? 

Second Life is not a social service run by people out of the goodness of their hearts, it is a commercial venture that will not exist for one minute longer than it is profitable. So, if not enough people are paying to live their second lives, Second Life WILL fold. 

 

 

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4 hours ago, BilliJo Aldrin said:

Second Life is not a social service run by people out of the goodness of their hearts, it is a commercial venture that will not exist for one minute longer than it is profitable. So, if not enough people are paying to live their second lives, Second Life WILL fold. 

 

 

If you really think premium membership is what make LL the most money.... I have some swampland in Zindra for sale. LL makes money hand over fist on every sale on the MP, plus all the land being rented by the estate barons. Premium membership is very low on the income totem pole.

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5 hours ago, Drake1 Nightfire said:

If you really think premium membership is what make LL the most money.... I have some swampland in Zindra for sale. LL makes money hand over fist on every sale on the MP, plus all the land being rented by the estate barons. Premium membership is very low on the income totem pole.

It's surely true that Estate land contributes to the Linden bottom line at least as much as Mainland, per dollar spent by SL residents, and equally true that Premium membership fees add relatively less -- they're basically a slightly roundabout way for the Lab to monetize the L$s paid out as stipends.

But Marketplace revenue is very tricky to assess because it's all L$-denominated. (Right? AFAIK anyway.) The 5% commission is tiny compared to other digital stores and may not even be enough to cover cost of operating the Marketplace, but that's sweetened by "enhancement" fees -- yet all this only counts once those L$s are converted to US$s, which sometimes the Lab does by selling on the LindeX -- and we really don't know how much of that happens. We know that the vast majority of LindeX transactions are resident-to-resident, and we also know that L$ "sources" (such as stipends) offset some "sinks" (such as Marketplace fees), so they surely can't convert all those L$s from fees to US$s, but I don't think anybody outside the Lab knows what proportion actually constitutes revenue.

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8 hours ago, Drake1 Nightfire said:

If you really think premium membership is what make LL the most money.... I have some swampland in Zindra for sale. LL makes money hand over fist on every sale on the MP, plus all the land being rented by the estate barons. Premium membership is very low on the income totem pole.

How much for the swampland on Zindra?

Where did i say premium memberships make LL the most money? If you are buying stuff on MP you are contributing to LL's income. If no one puts any money into second life in any way shape or form, it will fold. And, I'm sure the freeloaders (including you like as not) will be the one complaining the loudest when it does disappear.

Have a nice day Mr Nightfire.

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4 hours ago, BilliJo Aldrin said:

How much for the swampland on Zindra?

Where did i say premium memberships make LL the most money? If you are buying stuff on MP you are contributing to LL's income. If no one puts any money into second life in any way shape or form, it will fold. And, I'm sure the freeloaders (including you like as not) will be the one complaining the loudest when it does disappear.

Have a nice day Mr Nightfire.

She asked about paying for SL or going the free use option, meaning Premium vs free account. You took that to mean she wouldn't pay a red cent in SL. Spouting off like premium members are the only ones who keep SL afloat. 

I was premium, the benefits weren't worth it. 

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I've posted elsewhere in the forums that one can supports Linden Labs in many ways besides being Premium. You are the one that chose to read between the lines. Challenge me on what i say please, not on what you think i mean.

 

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Oh, and i'm not sure how many benefits you expect for your 6 dollar a month payment, but considering you get 5 dollars of that back in Linden dollars, and a 512 sq m worth at least the other 1 dollars a month in rent, you are breaking even if that's all you get out of it.

Oh, and the ability to own mainland as part of being premium?  Priceless |:0p

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On 6/16/2017 at 1:14 AM, Kayla Whittaker said:

I'm going to weigh in on this...  Before you even think about going mesh, there is enough free things or really cheap clothing, skins, shoes, hair, etc to make a sexy avatar.  I sort of have to dis-agree with Beggar.  Back 3 years ago, I decided to try the whole escort thing.  One thing a lot of people don't understand, and like anything else... You have be will to put in the time.  You are not going to make a lot of L's right off the start with it all.   Yes, I do have a great mesh avatar and great clothes, etc.   But getting back to my point with it all.  I started pole dancing at Escort Oasis, I was making a few L's doing that, and it is getting to know people/clients.  Yeah, I sort of had a little of high price for my services.  But you will get a lot of guys trying to get it for free, and that is going to happen, but after a couple of weeks, I had a client willing to pay for a text service.  Then another guy that day that I have chatted to off and on, paid for my text services.  But it also helps if you are will to talk in world.  But I did offer a voice service also and yes, I set it on the high side.  But after like 3 weeks, and chatting with a lot of men, they were paying for my voice services.  Most would pay for like 15 minutes on Skype with me, but I would get a lot that would pay for 30 minutes.  Then thing about, I never had one of the voice session ever go over 10 minutes, I hear a few grunts from them on the other in about 5 or 6 minutes in.  Click, hang up.  I'm just pat myself on the back and got back to pole dancing.

I only escorted for like 4 month, but I was doing very well with it all.  Only thing that drove me away from it... There A LOT of really strange men out there with A LOT of strange fetishes.  They were willing to pay me more.  I just wasn't willing to go there with it all.  And those got to me more and more.  I was like... Enough, I'm out.  Wasn't worth the L's. 

But yeah...  If you are willing to really work at it and willing to put in the time and at least a couple of months before you really start making a lot of L's at it.  It can be done.

Same reason I don't escort. Because yes they are willing to pay you reallll money but it's just to *****ing weird so I just stick to dancing. If you work in at least 5 more clubs and mix it with hosting you should be fine.

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