Jump to content

Stuck on initializing vfs on both sl viewer and firestorm?


You are about to reply to a thread that has been inactive for 823 days.

Please take a moment to consider if this thread is worth bumping.

Recommended Posts

  • 1 month later...
  • 2 weeks later...

I have the same problem with Firestorm and Alchemy, i can only use SL viewers right now, so i would appreciate help with this too. I am running Win 10. I have cleanly reinstalled both of those viewers to no avail. It just started a week or so ago, i am pretty sure there wasn't any windows updates prior to this starting.

Link to post
Share on other sites

I suspect it's this problem: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-100524

If you have  Intel 4000 graphics or Intel HD graphics & you could previously run 64bit viewers before a recent Windows 10 update the that bug is the likely suspect.
The viewer hangs during benchmarking & never recovers. This affects all 64bit viewers.
We have a fix for this ready for the next release of Firestorm.  If you want to try a test build of Firestorm with the fix, shoot me a PM on the forum & I'll give you the download link & instructions.
Alternatively you should be able to run the 32bit versions of Firestorm & Alchemy for now.

 

 

 

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 1 year later...

I'm suffering from the same problem with both 64 bit viewers: Firestorm 5.1.7 (55786) and Linden Lab 5.1.8 (518593) into a laptop running the operating system Windows 10 Pro. The message "Initializing VFS..." hangs for several minutes before to load the login screen of the viewer. I apparently fixed the problem adding the --noprobe parameter to the Firestorm shortcut; this solution doesn't work with the LL viewer shortcut though. Another apparent solution has been using the NVIDIA GeForce GT750M GPU instead of the integrated one Intel HD Graphics 4000: the NVIDIA GPU is surely more powerful and efficient but the CPU gets too hot now, until over 80 °C, and even just keeping the login screen opened. That's why now I'm trying to use the Intel GPU, even though the temperature still slowly gets too hot (close to 80 °C) and the LL viewer takes a lot of time to load. I unfortunately think I'm having some serious issues with my GPUs and that's the reason why the viewers take so long to open up too. I included some technical informations taken from my two viewers, one of which using the Intel GPU and the other one the NVIDIA GPU.

Firestorm viewer Linden Lab viewer

Firestorm 5.1.7 (55786) Jul 13 2018 22:34:51 (64bit) (Firestorm-Releasex64) with OpenSimulator support

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz (2394.56 MHz)
Memory: 8078 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows 10 64-bit (Build 17134)
Graphics Card Vendor: Intel
Graphics Card: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000

Windows Graphics Driver Version: 10.18.10.4885
OpenGL Version: 4.0.0 - Build 10.18.10.4885

RestrainedLove API: (disabled)
libcurl Version: libcurl/7.54.1 OpenSSL/1.0.2l zlib/1.2.8 nghttp2/1.25.0
J2C Decoder Version: KDU v7.10.4
Audio Driver Version: FMOD Studio 1.10.05
Dullahan: 1.1.1080 / CEF: 3.3325.1750.gaabe4c4 / Chromium: 65.0.3325.146
LibVLC Version: 2.2.8
Voice Server Version: Not Connected
Settings mode: Firestorm
Viewer Skin: Vintage (Classic)
Window size: 1920x1013 px
Font Used: Deja Vu (96 dpi)
Font Size Adjustment: 0 pt
UI Scaling: 1.25
Draw distance: 128 m
Bandwidth: 1000 kbit/s
LOD factor: 2
Render quality: High (5/7)
Advanced Lighting Model: No
Texture memory: 512 MB (1)
VFS (cache) creation time (UTC): 2018-8-20T13:42:35 
Built with MSVC version 1800
August 24 2018 08:22:25 SLT

Second Life Release 5.1.8.518593 (64bit)

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz (2394.56 MHz)
Memory: 8078 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows 10 64-bit (Build 17134)
Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Graphics Card: GeForce GT 750M/PCIe/SSE2

Windows Graphics Driver Version: 10.18.10.4885
OpenGL Version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 398.82

Window size: 1920x1013
Font Size Adjustment: 96pt
UI Scaling: 1.25
Draw distance: 128m
Bandwidth: 3000kbit/s
LOD factor: 1.125
Render quality: 4 / 7
Advanced Lighting Model: Enabled
Texture memory: 512MB
VFS (cache) creation time: August 24 2018 08:25:49

J2C Decoder Version: KDU v7.10.4
Audio Driver Version: FMOD Ex 4.44.64
Dullahan: 1.1.1080 / CEF: 3.3325.1750.gaabe4c4 / Chromium: 65.0.3325.146
LibVLC Version: 2.2.8
Voice Server Version: Not Connected
August 24 2018 08:26:09

 

Edited by Gianni Lupindo
I'm using a laptop
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Gianni Lupindo said:

I'm suffering from the same problem with both 64 bit viewers: Firestorm 5.1.7 (55786) and Linden Lab 5.1.8 (518593) into a laptop running the operating system Windows 10 Pro. The message "Initializing VFS..." hangs for several minutes before to load the login screen of the viewer. I apparently fixed the problem adding the --noprobe parameter to the Firestorm shortcut; this solution doesn't work with the LL viewer shortcut though. Another apparent solution has been using the NVIDIA GeForce GT750M GPU instead of the integrated one Intel HD Graphics 4000: the NVIDIA GPU is surely more powerful and efficient but the CPU gets too hot now, until over 80 °C, and even just keeping the login screen opened. That's why now I'm trying to use the Intel GPU, even though the temperature still slowly gets too hot (close to 80 °C) and the LL viewer takes a lot of time to load. I unfortunately think I'm having some serious issues with my GPUs and that's the reason why the viewers take so long to open up too. I included some technical informations taken from my two viewers, one of which using the Intel GPU and the other one the NVIDIA GPU.

Firestorm viewer Linden Lab viewer

Firestorm 5.1.7 (55786) Jul 13 2018 22:34:51 (64bit) (Firestorm-Releasex64) with OpenSimulator support

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz (2394.56 MHz)
Memory: 8078 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows 10 64-bit (Build 17134)
Graphics Card Vendor: Intel
Graphics Card: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000

Windows Graphics Driver Version: 10.18.10.4885
OpenGL Version: 4.0.0 - Build 10.18.10.4885

RestrainedLove API: (disabled)
libcurl Version: libcurl/7.54.1 OpenSSL/1.0.2l zlib/1.2.8 nghttp2/1.25.0
J2C Decoder Version: KDU v7.10.4
Audio Driver Version: FMOD Studio 1.10.05
Dullahan: 1.1.1080 / CEF: 3.3325.1750.gaabe4c4 / Chromium: 65.0.3325.146
LibVLC Version: 2.2.8
Voice Server Version: Not Connected
Settings mode: Firestorm
Viewer Skin: Vintage (Classic)
Window size: 1920x1013 px
Font Used: Deja Vu (96 dpi)
Font Size Adjustment: 0 pt
UI Scaling: 1.25
Draw distance: 128 m
Bandwidth: 1000 kbit/s
LOD factor: 2
Render quality: High (5/7)
Advanced Lighting Model: No
Texture memory: 512 MB (1)
VFS (cache) creation time (UTC): 2018-8-20T13:42:35 
Built with MSVC version 1800
August 24 2018 08:22:25 SLT

Second Life Release 5.1.8.518593 (64bit)

CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz (2394.56 MHz)
Memory: 8078 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows 10 64-bit (Build 17134)
Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Graphics Card: GeForce GT 750M/PCIe/SSE2

Windows Graphics Driver Version: 10.18.10.4885
OpenGL Version: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 398.82

Window size: 1920x1013
Font Size Adjustment: 96pt
UI Scaling: 1.25
Draw distance: 128m
Bandwidth: 3000kbit/s
LOD factor: 1.125
Render quality: 4 / 7
Advanced Lighting Model: Enabled
Texture memory: 512MB
VFS (cache) creation time: August 24 2018 08:25:49

J2C Decoder Version: KDU v7.10.4
Audio Driver Version: FMOD Ex 4.44.64
Dullahan: 1.1.1080 / CEF: 3.3325.1750.gaabe4c4 / Chromium: 65.0.3325.146
LibVLC Version: 2.2.8
Voice Server Version: Not Connected
August 24 2018 08:26:09

 

Using the integrated graphics will give you horrid graphics inworld.  Maybe go buy a cooling pad to sit your laptop on so that it doesn't overheat with the Nvidia card usage. 

Also, to reduce the graphics strain on your laptop - especially if you are going to stick with the integrated graphics - reduce your draw distance to 64m.  Also, take the overall graphics quality slider and shift it to medium or medium-low.  

Also, on the SL Viewer, drop that Bandwidth setting down to 1000-1200 and disable the Advanced Lighting, similar to your Firestorm setting.

Edited by LittleMe Jewell
  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
53 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

Using the integrated graphics will give you horrid graphics inworld.

reduce your draw distance to 64m.

take the overall graphics quality slider and shift it to medium or medium-low.  

Also, on the SL Viewer, drop that Bandwidth setting down to 1000-1200 

disable the Advanced Lighting, similar to your Firestorm setting.

we need a sticky post with this info :) ... it's posted several times a day lately....

oh and add "go wired" :)

  • Like 3
Link to post
Share on other sites
48 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

Using the integrated graphics will give you horrid graphics inworld.  Maybe go buy a cooling pad to sit your laptop on so that it doesn't overheat with the Nvidia card usage. 

Some time ago I always used the integrated graphics with no problem, even though the inworld wasn't excellent. A cooling pad wouldn't really fix the overheat with both GPUs because I think the CPU socket needs a new thermal compound and the fan being cleaned. My laptop worked with SL viewers 4 years and a half but it has never been disassembled. I will have to seriously evaluate the purchase of a new desktop PC as soon as possible.

Quote

Also, to reduce the graphics strain on your laptop - especially if you are going to stick with the integrated graphics - reduce your draw distance to 64m.  Also, take the overall graphics quality slider and shift it to medium or medium-low.  

I already reduced graphic settings to the lowest values or, at most, medium-low with no appreciable results. I used to set these values to medium and in few cases to medium-high.

Quote

Also, on the SL Viewer, drop that Bandwidth setting down to 1000-1200 and disable the Advanced Lighting, similar to your Firestorm setting.

The bandwidth is irrelevant for my problem but it's already set to 1000 kbps. The advanced lighting is already disabled with minimum settings. The problem is presumably of another nature. Thanks for your advices.

 

Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, Gianni Lupindo said:

I apparently fixed the problem adding the --noprobe parameter to the Firestorm shortcut; this solution doesn't work with the LL viewer shortcut though.

This likely worked on Firestorm because running with noprobe also disables benchmarking.
https://hg.phoenixviewer.com/phoenix-firestorm-lgpl/rev/8551133b1d7b

Some Intel card & driver combos don't work well with the GPU benchmark that the viewer uses.

Link to post
Share on other sites
9 minutes ago, Whirly Fizzle said:

This likely worked on Firestorm because running with noprobe also disables benchmarking.
https://hg.phoenixviewer.com/phoenix-firestorm-lgpl/rev/8551133b1d7b

Some Intel card & driver combos don't work well with the GPU benchmark that the viewer uses.

I never said the --noprobe parameter doesn't work on Firestorm but I said the laptop with this viewer overheats the same even using it by the Intel integrated GPU. The parameter surely doesn't work on Linden Lab viewer in my case.

Edited by Gianni Lupindo
what overheats
Link to post
Share on other sites
57 minutes ago, Gianni Lupindo said:
2 hours ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

Also, on the SL Viewer, drop that Bandwidth setting down to 1000-1200 and disable the Advanced Lighting, similar to your Firestorm setting.

 The bandwidth is irrelevant for my problem but it's already set to 1000 kbps. The advanced lighting is already disabled with minimum settings.

If you'll notice, my comment was specific to your SL Viewer settings, which the picture shows as below:

image.png.321513adf970d3b0f8a13ebc5fdf3e41.png

 

57 minutes ago, Gianni Lupindo said:

I think the CPU socket needs a new thermal compound and the fan being cleaned. My laptop worked with SL viewers 4 years and a half but it has never been disassembled. I will have to seriously evaluate the purchase of a new desktop PC as soon as possible.

You might be right - it might be time to make a purchase.  

 

Edited by LittleMe Jewell
Link to post
Share on other sites
41 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

If you'll notice, my comment was specific to your SL Viewer settings, which the picture shows as below:

The SL viewer has been just installed for testing; why didn't you make a snapshot of my Firestorm technical information too that is the viewer I almost always used in the last years?

Quote

You might be right - it might be time to make a purchase.  

I'm hesitant about a new PC purchase because Second Life is the only trouble; for the rest my laptop is simply perfect!

Edited by Gianni Lupindo
It's a laptop. I forgot that again!
Link to post
Share on other sites
20 minutes ago, Gianni Lupindo said:

I'm hesitant about a new PC purchase because Second Life is the only trouble; for the rest my PC is simply perfect!

I understand the sentiment, but SL can require much more from a computer than any other computer usage, including any other games - and laptops are notorious for having heat issues under heavy graphics usage simply because they just can't have as much cooling as a desktop.  

Link to post
Share on other sites
24 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

I understand the sentiment, but SL can require much more from a computer than any other computer usage, including any other games - and laptops are notorious for having heat issues under heavy graphics usage simply because they just can't have as much cooling as a desktop.  

I would leave SL for a while. My first life would be worthy a lot of more attention and I really hope to be able in my intent. This one could be the right occasion.

Link to post
Share on other sites
You are about to reply to a thread that has been inactive for 823 days.

Please take a moment to consider if this thread is worth bumping.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...