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ABUSE OF THE GAME Treasure Quest

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Players collecting more than 60 linden are being banned from the game to not be paid.

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Because I didn't say anything in the chat ? or because I collected more 60 linden and they don't want to pay me ?

I ask Linden Labs' help to look more closely at Second Life games because this type of lindens fraud is happening very often and many players like me are being harmed by criminals and thieves as the moderators of this game Treasure Quest that make us collect coins and then banish without paying with a stupid excuse.

 

OBS: It's worth noting that they only paid me what I collected after much fighting with one of the moderators and even then they didn't pay me the full amount of what I had collected.

 

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A standard feature of nearly all the PRIVATE opperated "make linden $ in your spare time" games in SL is this...

 

They charge parcel owners for the kit that lets them add their parcel to the hunt, they charge parcel owners to 'charge' the hunt item with money, and they force the hunters to go to their HQ to be payed according to a set ofg arbitary rules that allow them to give the hunters as little as possible if they give them anything at all.

 

For example, a parcel owner pays 1000 ls for a hunt kit, then pay 100 ls into the hunt object, 80% of that 100 goes to the hunt company right then, leaving 20 ls for you to and other hunters to collect.

 

They are a legal scam, always have been, and frankly you can make better money playing the official Linden Lab games such as the Linden Realms, where you can make 50 l$ an hour with practice, and there is never any bs about having to pander to the ego's of the operators.

 

Make your way to the LL Portal Park, via search or the destination guid etc., and try some of the official games with rewqards, some pay cash, others offer prizes, none are designed to rip you off.

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11 minutes ago, Jenni Witherspoon said:

 

[2017/01/26 15:54]  xxx  ........

[2017/01/26 15:56]  xxx ....................
[2017/01/26 15:58]  xxxx ...........................

reveiling chat between residents is a violation of the SL TOS,  you risk a ban.

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8 hours ago, Angellese said:

If you ban players after they have collected funds and don't allow them to claim those funds surely that's theft. Ban yes if they chose, its their game, but the funds should still be paid to the individual

That's a debatable point.  According to the TOS,

3.1. "Linden Dollars" are virtual tokens that we license. Each Linden Dollar is a virtual token representing contractual permission from Linden Lab to access features of Second Life. Linden Dollars are available for Purchase or distribution at Linden Lab's discretion, and are not redeemable for monetary value from Linden Lab.

The L$ you earn in any game is like poker chips, not money. What you earn in this game is not even L$.  It's their own game coins. Since you have not put any of your own L$ into the game, you haven't lost anything if the game's owners decide not to let you redeem coins as you leave.

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11 hours ago, Angellese said:

If you ban players after they have collected funds and don't allow them to claim those funds surely that's theft. Ban yes if they chose, its their game, but the funds should still be paid to the individual

Not if the terms of the game were not met.  If someone does not do EVERYTHING that the game requires, then they are not entitled to the payout - IMO anyway.

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A three-part response:

1. We are all SL residents in this site.  Lindens never come here, and we cannot do anything about resolving your issue.

2. You agreed to the SL TOS, which says (Sect 6): "You are solely responsible for your interaction with other users of the Service, whether online or offline. We are not responsible or liable for the conduct or content of any user. We reserve the right, but not the obligation, to monitor or become involved in disputes between you and other users."

3. The in-game community you are concerned about has its own rules.  If you have a disagreement about them, you'll need to discuss it with them.

You are on your own.

ETA:  L$60 is about 24 cents.

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Nobody from Linden Lab ever reads or responds to questions here, Strigo. This is strictly a users-trying-to-help-other-users forum.

If you want to contact Linden Lab about it you can open a support case. You find it under the Help tab at the top of this page. Don't hope for much though. Linden Lab very rarely interfere in disputes between users.

Edit: I checked the Treasure Quest ToS and the violation you admit to is very clear there, right at the top of the page and in bold even. No matter how silly you think that rule is, you agreed to follow it the moment you joined the game. If you think about it, it's even easy to understand why they have that rule.

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Their game, their rules.  You must follow the rules to be paid.  End of story.  I would suggest that when you do talk to the person you don't argue with them or tell them how stupid or absurd the rule is.  IF you do you'll probably be banned from playing in the future.

The other's are right, LL will not intefer.

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first i want to clear something up 

Klytyna we do not charge for the treasure quest coins at all they are free always to anyone that wants to be part of treasure quest as a landowner... second the tax is only 10% at the time you put into the funds bank so you put in 100L into the funds bank and only money that goes to the owners of the game is 10L period... no other tax all new coins all mega coins all other coins that come out are freely given out to all landowners always and forever... and the rest of the 90L will go to fill any coins put out and the coins will keep refilling till the money is gone from the funds bank... now there is no other game out there that has coins that you can make 25L or 50L or 75L or 100L or 200L or 250L or 300L or 500L or 700L from just one single coin but we at treasure quest do have them and they are put out daily by all out landowners... now we do enforce our rules so remember if you play you can not ever use camera tools no landmarks to lands no derendering no teleporting to coins no teleporting friends family sl partners no highlight transparency no area search no hover text... after all its a hunt and all must play fair and on the same level as if all are newbies and never knew how to do any of those things... the huds website links for dashes and megas in group will get you to all the coins and they make you land always at the landing spot or anchor.. have to be 90 days old to get to hq always... no one is forced to play treasure quest but you all do have to follow the rules.... and people easily make thousands of lindens weekly enough to pay for tier and shop fees... 

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btw Strigos directly after you got that mega if you were watchin group chat not only did i congratulate you on your mega but also i reminded you of your manners to say the thank you and it wasnt till the next day according to your own message you posted in this blog that you got banned from hq you had an entire 24 hours to get in there and follow the rules but you didnt im sorry... all i would have taken was for you to message stormydaze as i said and told her im sorry wont happen again will always say it and you would have been unbanned... 

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so honestly it was your own fault each coin actually tells you to..... 

Please be sure to read the Treasure Quest Terms of Service; By clicking and claiming a coin you agree to abide by ALL rules in the TOS. We take the integrity of our game very seriously. http://www.sltreasurequest.biz/wp/termsofservice

so there is no reason for anyone to ever not know the rules... 

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If you ban players after they have collected funds and don't allow them to claim those funds surely that's theft. Ban yes if they chose, its their game, but the funds should still be paid to the individual

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OK, let's not turn this thread into an argument between a game creator and disgruntled participants.

Jenni, thank you for your clarifications.

Personally, I'm with Rolig on all of these "earn $L" games.  And, for that matter, Skill games.  And Real Life casinos, too.  ALL such games are run for the benefit of the operator.  In RL casinos, it's called "the house percentage".  People who think that these games are there so that they can make an easy living are deluding themselves.  That's just how the world works; no one is going to create a game, market it, and pay out expenses just for your benefit.

My advice to all gamers is, stop wasting your life chasing rainbows.  Learn a skill, get a job, start a business, make something of worth, provide a service.  (like Jenni, for example!)  And that applies to SL and RL both.

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If it makes you feel any better, I got banned from Treasure Quest simply for joining a group that the owner of TQ was having a fight with the owner of the second group.  And, that second group land had TQ coins on it and had been a previous TQ coin site.  Explain that one. :)   Somehow, you must monitor who they are currently having disputes with and not join those groups.  Good luck on that everyone! 

With Treasure Quest they will ban for various reasons, whether stated in their TOS or not.  Best bet is to cash out everyday. :) 

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On 8/20/2017 at 4:42 PM, PenelopeRoseWaters said:

If it makes you feel any better, I got banned from Treasure Quest simply for joining a group that the owner of TQ was having a fight with the owner of the second group.  And, that second group land had TQ coins on it and had been a previous TQ coin site.  Explain that one. :)   Somehow, you must monitor who they are currently having disputes with and not join those groups.  Good luck on that everyone! 

With Treasure Quest they will ban for various reasons, whether stated in their TOS or not.  Best bet is to cash out everyday. :) 

you so right ..i learn that in worst way...

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Treasure Quest is a Closed system, meaning you have to be in their group to play. You can hunt all you want but when you go to Cash out at the ATM, you get a message saying you must wear your group tag to withdraw funds. There is no way to join their group and if you ask for a group invite they ignore you and in some cases just ban you without a reason.

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First, this is an old thread.  Secondly, it is against forum rules to complain about a person or a company by name.  I suggest you delete your post.  As for your complaint, you have two options.  1) You can send another polite IM, and a notecard would be good too because IMs are often capped.  Ask for a group invitation.  Or, 2) You can simply forget about it and move on.  There's an endless choice of other things to do and enjoy in SL!

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They are either thieves or the power has gone to their heads...and I have reported them for unfair practices.....several alts have collected coins from them and cannot cash in....if you go to their sites you usually won't see anyone playing the game...I have even seen one of the owners collecting coins....if that is not unethical I do not know what is!!!!

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4 hours ago, AllaTwitter said:

They are either thieves or the power has gone to their heads...and I have reported them for unfair practices.....several alts have collected coins from them and cannot cash in....if you go to their sites you usually won't see anyone playing the game...I have even seen one of the owners collecting coins....if that is not unethical I do not know what is!!!!

The general rule in Second Life is "caveat emptor".   Residents are free to create just about anything they want.  Other residents are free to buy those products, or not.  If you don't like something, don't buy it/use it/participate in it.

As I've said many times, I personally don't feel that any of the "Get Free $L" games or programs are worth the trouble.  Buy your $L with a credit card, or learn to create and sell your creations, or offer your talents or services, if you want to earn money in world.  Nothing is really free, or even easy, either in real life or in Second Life.

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12 hours ago, AllaTwitter said:

..I have reported them for unfair practices..

Sorry to tell you this, but your report will accomplish nothing. As long as they do not violate TOS, then LL will not get involved. Chalk it up as a learning experience and move on with the SLife.

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On 10/25/2017 at 4:21 PM, Lindal Kidd said:

First, this is an old thread.  Secondly, ...

 

I've started clicking the 'Mark this section read...' button and checking dates before posting. But, I suspect this will be an unending problem.

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Fraud is against the law whether it is in rl or sl.....banning people without even giving a reason and playing your own game is at LEAST unethical and not fair to the landowners....this is a bad bad game...i do not want my lindens from them...I just want everyone to know they are unethical and fraudulent. I followed all their rules (otherwise they would have told me why they  banned me) and then I run across an owner collecting coins which is like biting the hand that feeds you...there is a reason you rarely see anyone at Beaus....we have either been banned from playing or we know better....:)

 

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On 10/25/2017 at 10:39 PM, Lita Jannings said:

Treasure Quest is a Closed system, meaning you have to be in their group to play. You can hunt all you want but when you go to Cash out at the ATM, you get a message saying you must wear your group tag to withdraw funds. There is no way to join their group and if you ask for a group invite they ignore you and in some cases just ban you without a reason.

I sent an IM to the owner to let her know that her group joiner wasn't working and I just got the same spiel as above about how people are earning unimaginable wealth by camping for coins (yeah right). It was obviously leading up to a demand for money in exchange for an invite. I doubt she would have bothered responding if I didn't have payment info on file.

Not all these collecting/fishing/hunting games are scams. They're fine as a way of picking up a few pennies while you IM people or sort inventory, but that's as far as it goes. Just as in RL, if something sounds too good to be true it usually is.

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Jenni Witherspoon: im sorry but at this time were under  maintenance and not taking members until its all fixed

So if your not a member jet, you will not be able to cash out??? or are the people who are a member already also not able to cash out???

Lucky i try this game before using their coins

Games as "Linden gold hunters" & "Magic Fishing" are not having issues.....!!

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