emails

[greek Wingtips]

Think its about time LL introduced email accounts for all paying members this be usefull in many aspects

What are your views

[Alwin Alcott]

there is already a kind of this... you can reply on IM's, within a time limit, that you get in your email.

 

More isn't needed for me, there are zillions of possibilities to get free emailadresses...

[sirhc DeSantis]

Why?

Why on Earth should the Lab burden themselves with yet another system to have to monitor and maintain? Just so that we can have some.resident@yetanothermail.domain? Add in the fact that they would then be badgered to make it integrate with existing communications setup, such as mute lists etc......

As already noted, there are a multitude of easy to set up email providers (quick check says I have... really that many? Wow over a dozen, spread between work, fun, specials,  personal and emergency). . Why do we need one more?

 

Well if we are in an "its about time LL...." mood, its about time the Lab gave everyone a free pony too. They have my email so can send me the details.

[bigmoe]

LL does not use their own Email servers, they use google apps (google just changed the name of this a while back) and LL has for years done it this way,  providing email through thier current setup would be costly and the offset with only a certain amount of paying members would not offset this cost. 

[Amethyst Jetaime]

Sorry, I don't need another email account to keep up with.  I already have one in my avi's name that I use.  LL should spend their resources on SL not adding a shiny we don't need.

[Syo Emerald]

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greek Wingtips wrote:

Think its about time LL introduced email accounts for all paying members this be usefull in many aspects

What are your views

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Where do you see the benefit in this?

[greek Wingtips]

Thinks you are right. But sl does need a kick up the bum its got very stagnant maybe

With this new platform  LL have let SL slip by the wayside

We need a fresh injection for sl.   An email service within would have been good

[Qie Niangao]

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What are your views

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Not without two-factor authentication.

On the other hand, if this would get LL to bestir itself to implement 2FA for SL accounts, it would be okay if an email address came along with the ride, I suppose.

[Rhonda Huntress]

I like the way it is setup now. IMs get forwarded to my email already.

 

I get enough spam as it is without having an email address posted where everyone in SL can see it. If you want to make it easier for people to contact you, why not put your address in your profile?

[greek Wingtips]

Thats the most ridulas thing I heard, emails addys can be private and given out to friends, you can control your spam thats the not fault of email its like saying I have car accidents but I will blame the car

[greek Wingtips]

It would benfit by having this your own SL web sites it could you want to use to contact members of groups with out acessing sl to give out a notice or what ever, many uses ,but this would only be available to a paying yearly membership member

[Rhonda Huntress]

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greek Wingtips wrote:

Thats the most ridulas thing I heard,

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And there you are.

What, exactly, do you want to accomplish that requires another email address managed by the Lab?

[greek Wingtips]

Excatly as I said in thr reply before

[CassieMaia]

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greek Wingtips wrote:

.... But sl does need a kick up the bum its got very stagnant maybe

With this new platform  LL have let SL slip by the wayside

We need a fresh injection for sl.   An email service within would have been good

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In my opinion, LL has been doing a lot of things for SL recently.  Just off the top of my head, they just released a viewer update for Bento to go live, they released a viewer updated not too long ago that had something to do with managing outfits in a different way, they recently went live with a new game/quest "Horizons" plus a sizable new residental area in the same area which also has some new features in how the base LL house is managed/controlled, tweaked MP search, raised prim/LI limits on all sims ...   

 

[Amethyst Jetaime]

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greek Wingtips wrote:

Thats the most ridulas thing I heard, emails addys can be private and given out to friends, you can control your spam thats the not fault of email its like saying I have car accidents but I will blame the car

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I highly doubt LL will ever give us emails.  BUT if they do, it will be your username@secondlfie.com or .net or something. The most expedient way to do it.  Hardly private and easily guessed. Soon you will be getting spam from all the places that send it now in SL. LL might even sell a mailing list to RL marketers to recoup the costs of running the service.

When web profiles came out everything was public on it until a lot of users complained about it, only then did they give privacy controls.  So privacy is not LL's number one concern.

If you want a private email, create one in your avi's name or a secret name at any of the free email sites and give that out to friends.  It works just as well. I fail to see the advantage of a @secondlife address.

[Phil Deakins]

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greek Wingtips wrote:

Thats the most ridulas thing I heard, emails addys can be private and given out to friends, you can control your spam thats the not fault of email its like saying I have car accidents but I will blame the car

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Amethyst beat me to it. It was your response (quoted above) that was ridiculous.

Just out of interest, have you ever seen a list of the email addresses that spammers create and send to? No? The let me tell you about them. They don't even need the information about what's before the @ symbol. They send to anything and everything @. E.g aaa@ aab@ aac@ axsr@. They write a programme that creates email addresses, a few of which will turn out to be real. Then they email the lot. So, with an email address of something like <user>@secondlife.<whatever>, spammers don't even need your username to stick on the front. You'll get spam anyway.

[greek Wingtips]

Well first let me argue your point, we get spam now anyways the way LL have set up SL big MP companies can spam anyone in SL ( so whos fault is that????) with email it does not have to be your username like we cna can change our names the same can be done for SL emails, the  adavantage with SL emails is that you can email your friends without giving your personal email out  an SL would be what it is An sl email,   

 

Spam is only there because the programmers of LL have it , it could easily be blocked if need,

 

[Phil Deakins]

Yes, we get occasional spam in SL, but what we get now would be tiny compared to the amount we'd get if all a spammer needed to do was address emails to <some characters or even loadsa names>@ secondlife.<something>. I'm afraid that, not only has your idea been shown to be unwanted, but it would also open the floodgates to spam if LL did it.

One more thing. You said that the reason for it would be to spark up SL. Imo, there would be no chance of that happening just because of an email system.

[greek Wingtips]

well you could be right but one would only tell if implemented,But I do think SL does needs spicy up in a big way maybe with this other project coming soon, SL days are numbered in ideas and investment, who know only LL knows.

[Syo Emerald]

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greek Wingtips wrote:

well you could be right but one would only tell if implemented,But I do think SL does needs spicy up in a big way maybe with this other project coming soon, SL days are numbered in ideas and investment, who know only LL knows.

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How would an outside feature "spice up" Second Life itself? You still fail to point out what benefit would come from an email adress run by LL. You just keep saying that it has benefits and would be good, but you haven't said clearly what those benefits are or how it could be good.

My Second Life experiance is not influenced by whatever email provider I use so far and I don't see how another email provider should change that. I only see how it could be used for spam and consume time and money, that could be used elsewhere. I'd rather have the Lab working on more important things, that actually improve being within Second Life.

[Rhonda Huntress]

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Rhonda Huntress wrote:

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greek Wingtips wrote:

Thats the most ridulas thing I heard,

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And there you are.

What, exactly, do you want to accomplish that requires another email address managed by the Lab?

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greek Wingtips wrote:

Excatly as I said in thr reply before

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So the reply before ... that woud be:

greek Wingtips wrote:

Thats the most ridulas thing I heard, emails addys can be private and given out to friends, you can control your spam thats the not fault of email its like saying I have car accidents but I will blame the car

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 I'm still not seeing what objective you are wanting to achieve other than creating another email address. If you need another email address there are copious solutions available now.

If the objective is just to have an email managed through LL servres ... I don't see a point.  We already have email adresses that were used during the signup process.  If you want one you can share with friends but you want to say it is your SL address, make one from Google, maye?  Greek.Wingtips.2ndLife@gmail.com would do the trick.  What are you tryiong to solve that this will not fix?

 

[etl]

Too many typos and bad gramer but not enogh coffee yet to care about fixin' them.

[greek Wingtips]

why are you guys always negative about any suggestions that involves LL , its like a defence leauge that come to rescue  anything anyone suggests, The crux of secondlife is comunication and interaction with people around the world, and emails forms such comunication , so an SL email addy is no big deal, I dont want to set up a google, or a yahoo why should  its not bigger to setup an email server for LL and I did state it would be for paying customers. and you no something its all aways the same names I see defending LL, either your employees  or some else gives, but I can assure you its normally the same names

 

[Parhelion Palou]

The reason people are being negative about this particular suggestion is that it doesn't make sense. Why should LL set up email servers and dedicate people to keeping the system running, handling spam, etc. when they'd be better off dedicating the money and people to making Second Life itself better? Other companies already do email well; it's better to let them do it.

Besides, SL is all about building. Interacting with people around the world is cool too, but I don't need SL to do that. (Other people may have other reasons for being in SL. Your mileage may vary. Offer good at participating locations only. Void where prohibited. I may be a wee bit exhausted.)

[Rhonda Huntress]

I was not trying to be negative.  My first replay was trying to be supportive but I guess I got the wrong idea about what you want.  I guess I still don't know.  I cannot seem to wrap my head around wanting an email address provided by a company that requires an email address to access the company's services to start with.

 

[eta]

If I were going to impliment something like this for LL, I would simple create an alias for the email address you provided on signup.  UsernameResident@SecondLife.com would then be just another link to your email you already have and other than a few scripts, LL would not be involved any further.

If this is what you want you can do it yourself already. 

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/22370?hl=en

My work email has 3 different account names and 4 different domain names that can be mixed and matched that all reach the exact same email.  Your ISP or prefered mail service can do likewise and can even cross sync with other email accounts. Right now my dirt simple Windows 10 mail app has my home email, my ISP email, my spam email and my "inner circle" mail accounts.  Outlook has inner circle and work accounts for mail, calander, groups, etc.

I just cannot see a reason in this world of massive world wide cross communications to create yet another email address when it will be linked either directly or indirectly to 1 or more of my existing communication routes.

[Brenda Liotta]

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sirhc DeSantis wrote:

 

Well if we are in an "its about time LL...." mood, its about time the Lab gave everyone a free pony too. They have my email so can send me the details.

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Be patient, there are only so many free ponys to go around.

 As for the OP Mr Wingtips,  others have pointed out LL does enough to keep SL up and running. They don't need no "stinkin'" email servers to worry of. Get a gmail account.

Problem solved.