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The Pathetic State of RP in SL

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I enjoy being a bit player. A walk on. An interesting NPC. But most of the RP sims are like 4 rulers and no population or regular people. It takes a big chunk of money to keep these sims going so you gotta let the 'banker' be king i guess.

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On 6/5/2019 at 6:06 AM, AyelaNewLife said:

To make this work, you'd need an owner/moderator who is prepared to either roleplay very hands-off, mostly just there to make appearances at events and to resolve disputes in-character; potentially roleplaying a "normal character" on an alt and maintaining sufficient separation between the two. But if you can find someone/a team of people willing to do just that without letting things spiral out of control, it could work amazingly.

On the other hand, it seems that many RP'ers games is to create drama to get attention from the moderator.  They complain about a hands off moderator too.

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On 11/15/2016 at 6:41 AM, JamesKisson said:

I have to vent, I NEED to vent.  I should have run from SL years ago, having been here for over 6 years.  And I can count on one hand friends made, friends who know how to RP as well, intelligent, dedicated, funny friends who I would have over for dinner in a heartbeat if they lived in my part of the world.  And....I can count on all my fingers and toes and times that by 100 of the people I have met who;

A.) Think SL is some sort of RL dating service, and how many people lead other people on via lies and promises that never could become reality.

B.) Think SL is a place to offer their -all look the same- barbie doll/jiggly boob n butt bodies for lindens in exchange for the most oooh ahh moan moan boring sex in the world.  Trust me, internet porn is much better, and FREE and..well, faster.

C.) Suffer a major psychological disorder and or physical one and have come into SL to poor poor me cry and moan to people who uh huh them and do not give 2 sh*ts...just get on that poseball honey so I can come and go.

D.) Are obviously underage-points EVERYWHERE.  Or think that babies should have sex. *Points at a few of the nude family beaches*  Spend a day at one of those sims and I will guaaareeenteeee you will have no less that 5 *littles* hit on you in a very adult fashion.  Same thing for the adoption agencies and see how many pervs you get who wish to rape your childlike pixels, or how many want to predend they are daddies or mommies to a  little girl or boy, or..dog. To hell with it being a violation of TOS, its DONE EVERYWHERE. And if the littles are not looking for sex, they are looking for lindens.

E.) Gor/BDSM-The BDSM sims hate RPers and the Goreans are Living BDSM.  Most Gor sims are empty, and if you do find one that contains people, you will find that they are clicks of friends, or just really bad or fanatical with 0 character developement.  Norman laughs out there somewhere at everyone who took his books THAT seriously, and when you really look how and what the Gorean books reflected in their writing, well, it is just kool aid for fanatics...can't say its not fun but how many slave serves can one person tolerate without a conversation that goes beyond if I wish my paga warm or my ka-la-na chilled.  And ad to that..in all of SL you will find this....

F.) People who have NO CLUE what a capitol letter is, proper 3rd  person emoting is, nor how to use punctuation and painfully slow typers. Again they are dependant on their mesh bodies, male or female and yes I sport a mesh body as well.  *I touch you hey sup u look hot wanna fck ^^* is NOT RP. Its BS by deperate poseballers  Many need to get OFF SL and try a few high school lvl English courses and stay awake though them. Then try some college lvl creative writing courses. WORSE than that..TEXT SPEAK in RP. Its EVERYWHERE.

G.) I have nothing against furries, except to say they are all in the 14-21 age group and tail wagging or being in heat, having 6 mipples or a barbed peen does not exactly make for intriguing RP.  Most fur sims are dedicated to sitting around chatting it up and panting. Ugh.

H.) Greedy? Skipo?  On every sim, even the RP ones. WHY?  I can think of much better games to play that only require one to click OFF SL. And those games, have nothing to do with RP. Or communication.

That out of the way, having done both Urban and Gor I can say I have found legit and well versed RPers on some of the larger Urban sims. But again, rarely is it an exchange that goes beyond a day, with no continued story. And the price paid for that, in those multi sim places is extreme lag.  Gor is pretty much a joke, with some serious RPers and many pseudo slaves just looking for poseballing. I have heard some of the western themed sims are fun, but I, personally only can go on the word of friends. And Sci Fi I'm sure is in the same state of low quality role play, just add in a few tentacals and space suits. As someone who has RPed in MMORPGs as well as just text based RP, I have to say, second life is the sewer of RP.

I do believe the defintion of crazy, is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting differnt results but not getting them.  Now I'm sure a few will follow this post with, -well damn you have just been in the wrong places-, or, -who peed in your pie-. If so, do enlighten me to where the real, creative, active RP sims are. I have spent nights visiting as many as 30-40 sims and finding all of 6 people, and if I am REALLY lucky, 1 can RP.  I'd have better odds winning the lotto.

 

Have I given up on finding mature RP with other like minded adults who understand the english language, even if using a translator, who are over the age of 30, or 40?  Probably not.  Though I'm finding that perhaps my time is better served in other venues. SL could be a GREAT world for RP of many genres.  But, its not.  Its Sex life, its BDSM life (most who have not a clue what the RL version of that is) and it is Pose Ball life with people/avis you will never see again, or only see again when they need to take care of their sexual needs again.  And that, makes me sad, and regret all the money I have spent there.  I would love to hear other people's takes on their RP experience...ONLY if you can type in complete sentences with capitol letters and periods!

 

 

 

Finally someone I can relate too. :)

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On 11/15/2016 at 4:41 AM, JamesKisson said:

I should have run from SL years ago

And yet, here you still are. Go figure.

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40 minutes ago, Alyona Su said:
On 11/15/2016 at 7:41 AM, JamesKisson said:

I should have run from SL years ago

 And yet, here you still are. Go figure.

Not necessarily, that quote was from 2016.

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1 hour ago, Love Zhaoying said:

Not necessarily, that quote was from 2016.

Good point, though looking at the activity on that account makes it still applicable, albeit still a few months old.

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This saddens me.

I had a lot of fun and good roleplay back in the old Perdition days, but when that went down, I left SL for several years and now I come on sometimes, keep my avatar in check (last time I had to deal with the whole new mesh and bento stuff) and check if any RP server stands out, but usually my search comes up with something like this, or servers closing, or I walk around a sim and it's empty.

Would be a great platform, but there are too many factors to guarantee good and engaging roleplay (setting, population, quality of the roleplay, direction of the sim, rules and so on). That and the general decline of the amount of second life users makes it really unlikely that there will be a repeat of the prime time of SL RP. I dare to say the population is the biggest factor even, cause if there are more people on a sim, it also means that you have higher chances of finding something that fits your expected RP quality and direction.

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     I've been a part of a very small and brand new RP group and the theme was very specific. Even though I enjoyed it, I fear that there are no other good RP groups out there. I read this thread from beginning to end, noticing that the trend seems to be that nobody wants to play as a commoner, or they are only out for pixel sex.


     It really bums me out to hear this! I was looking forward to finding a group that is very inclusive, possibly a sci-fi fantasy hybrid.. and hearing how everyone wants to be the most important really kills my immersion. I always roleplay as a not-so-special person. a commoner who just looks different from the norm, but essentially the same as most other normal people. And I have this mindset that many roleplayers are stuck up and want every player to be able to write two paragraphs for every action, which I cannot do, since it's mentally exhausting, and I can put the same amount of detail into one or two sentences.

     I only wish all of you reading this who are looking for RP good luck, since I am also on this hunt.

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I've been roleplaying in 1920s Berlin for about a decade and it is a great community full of wonderful people.
I have no complaints.
Then again, I don't go out much.

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4 hours ago, Jo Yardley said:

I've been roleplaying in 1920s Berlin for about a decade and it is a great community full of wonderful people.
I have no complaints.
Then again, I don't go out much.

That sounds great, and I've visited there once or twice and wished I could get into it, unfortunately I just didn't have much affinity for the theme. 

Plus my middle-of-the-night-for-almost-everybody-on-SL timezone doesn't help.

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22 hours ago, Akane Nacht said:

That sounds great, and I've visited there once or twice and wished I could get into it, unfortunately I just didn't have much affinity for the theme. 

Plus my middle-of-the-night-for-almost-everybody-on-SL timezone doesn't help.

I will admit, I've visited 1920's Berlin a few times over the years and as far as immersion goes @Jo Yardley has done an amazing job. Like you, it's not a time period that I ever really felt comfortable enough in or particularly wanted to write in, but if you are struggling to find a place and time zones do on-whatever-level align you should check it out (or persist if you can). It's stood the test of time where a vast majority (including my own regions) have not. That says a lot, really. 

EDIT: Though I quoted Akane that reply was also intended for others looking for places to RP or were/are in a similar predicament, just for the sake of clarification. :) 

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1 hour ago, RaeLeeH said:

It's stood the test of time

Got me thinking of a few others like this (ie. themed communities/optional RP/ events) where you can drop in and immerse yourself in the setting:

- New Toulouse

- New Babbage

- Haven of Mermaids (literally immerse here -it's underwater)

These last 2 I'm not sure how long they've been around, hope they stay though because they are gorgeous settings:

- Carpathia Antiquity

- Rocca Sorrentina, 1789: Italy

 

There are more but can't recall off the top of my head. They do tend to be kinda quiet though, mostly people doing their own thing.

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everyone is in SL for a different reason..whether it be the serious roleplayer or someone who is running around naked.  everyone is  playing a role

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I’ll say it again. When calling something pathetic, try and remember that “pathos” is a GOOD thing. Maybe choose different words. (Referring to post title.)

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2 hours ago, Love Zhaoying said:

I’ll say it again. When calling something pathetic, try and remember that “pathos” is a GOOD thing. Maybe choose different words. (Referring to post title.)

Are you sure about that? :P

pathos | ˈpāˌTHäs |
noun
a quality that evokes pity or sadness: the actor injects his customary humor and pathos into the role.
ORIGIN
mid 17th century: from Greek pathos ‘suffering’; related to paskhein ‘suffer’ and penthos ‘grief’.

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16 minutes ago, Alyona Su said:

Are you sure about that? :P

pathos | ˈpāˌTHäs |
noun
a quality that evokes pity or sadness: the actor injects his customary humor and pathos into the role.
ORIGIN
mid 17th century: from Greek pathos ‘suffering’; related to paskhein ‘suffer’ and penthos ‘grief’.

If you HAVE pathos, that’s good. It’s like having empathy.

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1 hour ago, Love Zhaoying said:

If you HAVE pathos, that’s good. It’s like having empathy.

   Pathos isn't having empathy, pathos is to invoke empathy in others. It doesn't have to be a good thing - deception and fraud is often a device of pathos.

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not me.  i am not a para roleplayer.   though i do more than just one sentence

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Posted (edited)

When I first joined on this account, it was 100% for the role-play aspect of Second Life. Back then I was just beginning and honing my skill in paragraph RP, but it was so easy to find people to role-play with, that wasn't in it just to get off from it, they done it out of pure enjoyment and love of the art. I've spent far more time in a role-play than I would like to admit but back then it was so easy to lose yourself with someone who matched your skill set and could be just as imaginative as you are, be it capture sort of RP, Urban, adult RP etc.

Fast forward to now, there are still good role-players out there, but they are becoming a rare gem in the sea of one-lining, pose hopping noobs who are just in it for the RL pleasure aspect. More and more people seem surprised that, even though I do the more adult variety type of Para RP that I don't do it to get off, I do it because I love to write, but have always struggled to do so by myself, and I have always loved weaving stories with people.

It's sad that it seems like the more people who join in SL, just see it more as a virtual porn hub than an actual outlet for Truly amazing Role-play opportunities

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As someone who is making an anime-themed sim that I hope one day people can roleplay in and make friends etc, I must admit I am one of those introverted people who just made my place because I enjoy building things and have basically no  experience in roleplay itself.

What do you guys enjoy the most in roleplay and what in your opinion makes a high quality roleplay experience?

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On 8/5/2019 at 9:31 AM, Extrude Ragu said:

As someone who is making an anime-themed sim that I hope one day people can roleplay in and make friends etc, I must admit I am one of those introverted people who just made my place because I enjoy building things and have basically no  experience in roleplay itself.

What do you guys enjoy the most in roleplay and what in your opinion makes a high quality roleplay experience?

Everyone has their own preferences, the question is what do you like and finding people who coincide with that.

My preference is at least 1 paragraph per action or more, personally, and I'm not going to be a grammar nazi.

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On 6/5/2019 at 5:54 PM, Amina Sopwith said:

Para RP is a divisive topic, I know. Personally I don't mind it if it's done well but it definitely works best in smaller groups, or preferably one on one. It does have a tendency to be abused by people trying to shoehorn in an irrelevant backstory or inner monologue.


 


 

^ this.... that's exactly what I've been seeing lately in para rps. People who don't get to the F@$#ing point in their role-play. Useless monologue and backstory.

With me .. I like simple role-play. I wanna feel like I'm role-playing with a person, not a book.

And another thing that really is starting to get boring, useless and annoying is ERP which means " Exotic role-play" in other terms "romance role-play". Especially those who just come to the sim for that " one thing". 

In my opinion it's getting overused and overrated. If that's the only reason you came to a role-play sim was to find a wife or a side-chick...then log the heck off. Can we just have a non-sexual base role-play that doesn't involved taking your clothes off , kissing and snuggling every darn scene? I mean you got people who will just role-play with their partner alone and not get involved in anything else but gossip and nonsense. I'm sick of people like that they ruin role-play.

 

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42 minutes ago, InterestinglyUninterested said:

My preference is at least 1 paragraph per action or more, personally, and I'm not going to be a grammar nazi.

^ THANK YOU! I agree with this.

Also, I feel that grammar nazis ruin role-play as well. If all you're gonna do is sit there and nit-pick at every typo error well maybe role-play just isn't for you. People make mistakes everyday. Whether it's a grammatical mistake or something else. This doesn't mean they're illiterate or uneducated, some people haven't been in school or college in like 20 YEARS. Not to mention a lot of people aren't from the US and don't speak ,read or type English well because it isn't their mother language. I feel if they want perfection so much.. then they can role-play with themselves. I actually have a friend from Germany who doesn't understand all the meanings for certain English words. I had to help him... however, there is a difference between helping someone and being an obnoxious A-hole. And grammar nazis are obnoxious 

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10 minutes ago, Minx Kurosawa said:

Not to mention a lot of people aren't from the US and don't speak ,read or type English well because it isn't their mother language

If people go grammar nazi on me I tend to respond in Dutch and see how well they do in a foreign language :)

 

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