Ernesto Perez Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I think for making BOT's, better idea is to use standard viewer with mouse/keyboard drive robot-macros than write own 3rd party viewer. Example standard viewer runs in some machine 24/7 and all operations translated to mouse/keyboard macros. Central control point becomes SDK for programmers with class-libraries. Programmers make some class object, class constructors start moving mouse into correct menu row and class functions continue with operation and finish mouse/keyboard macro. All functions must contain control mechanism, to find out does mouse really goes into right place and does operation really finish as expected and if not, made correction to mouse movement. Class-libraries becomes SDK plaftorm for programmers that allows to use any operation that also viewer allows, without limitations to BOT functionality. Also in this case there isnt any meaning are LL viewer and server side functionality documented or not documented at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterCanessa Oh Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Hi again Ernesto. you are way beyond most of the things we care to discuss here. The viewer functionality is documented and discussed in the open-source area of the wiki but the LL server is proprietary and not published. We know you don't like the open-source stuff but that's where it's at if you want to go beyond basic scripting. Like it or not, LL is unlikley to give you all their secrets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Perez Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 PeterCanessa Oh wrote: Hi again Ernesto. you are way beyond most of the things we care to discuss here. The viewer functionality is documented and discussed in the open-source area of the wiki but the LL server is proprietary and not published. We know you don't like the open-source stuff but that's where it's at if you want to go beyond basic scripting. Like it or not, LL is unlikley to give you all their secrets Question isnt do I like open-source or not. You itself sayes in some previous thread (if I remember correctly) that writing 3rd party viewer isnt so easy and LL specially made it hard to do. Of course its hard, because reading some other programmer written source code is always hard and errors possibility is high, even more if source isnt well documented. And we all see this also in inworld - in SL good-working BOT's are very few, some five or something and they all are only for limited specific functionality. If you write your own viewer-BOT, then it becomes only YOUR software that does some operation, other programmers cant use it to make their own BOT's - you make software, but programmers need SDK. Also you can study this source-code very hard, every day, but anyway we dont see result, SDK result that other programmers can use to write their own BOT software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterCanessa Oh Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Yes. Do you have a question or comment about scripting? Bots and the external interface of SL are dealt with in the open-source wiki/forum(s). They aren't dealt with here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Perez Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 PeterCanessa Oh wrote: Yes. Do you have a question or comment about scripting? Bots and the external interface of SL are dealt with in the open-source wiki/forum(s). They aren't dealt with here. If you are forum administrator, then please make also topic for external software. Today in SL have lots of software mixed by scripts and external software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterCanessa Oh Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Ernesto, I really wish I thought you were getting it. Unfortunately, I don't so it has to be this. Maybe it's a language thing but honestly mate, there's just no point in us posting to you any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opensource Obscure Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 PeterCanessa Oh wrote: Yes. Do you have a question or comment about scripting? Bots and the external interface of SL are dealt with in the open-source wiki/forum(s). They aren't dealt with here. Well, he had posted in a different section - then a forum moderator moved this thread here. I would think "Technology > Viewer" would be a more appropriate section http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Second-Life-Viewer/bd-p/SLViewer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkie Minotaur Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 He's a dead funny troll, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterCanessa Oh Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 The sad thing is that I think what he envisions is quite ambitious, useful and interesting. This thread has been moved around a bit so the 'not here' messages are a bit out of whack now but it comes down to the fact that LL has no interest in residents/3rd parties writing viewers or 'bots - and why should they have! Those people dealing with the opensource viewer code are the only ones that will be able to help him, even if the method isn't what he's asking for (an easy Visual Studio SDK/library). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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