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16 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

True, but you still have to be able to focus your camera on something and if there is nothing within your draw distance to focus on it is more difficult to zoom in on anything.

You can use camera controls to move your view down, but it takes forever. So practically speaking, yes, you're right.

 

17 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

I honestly don't see them ever rolling out the same ban line / security orb rules for all of Mainland.

There's no indication at the moment that there is any intention to do so. I think, however, that it might depend on how well this seems to be working on the new continent.

Certainly, it would be in some ways a risky move applying it elsewhere.

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15 hours ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

If they did allow the orb to apply up to 500m and then 1500m and above, that would handle most hovering peeping toms because they'd be roughly 500m away from you and thus would have to set the draw distance to that or more to see you and a lot of people's computer just flat can't handle a draw distance that high.

 

My computer is a potato and I can do it, although of course my FPS will then be nothing.

 I’m still trying to understand why someone camming over and finding my brand name avatar on my brand name furniture is personal enough to warrant all this *modesty*. The avatar mesh is not me, it’s a Barbie doll more or less like everyone else’s.

What is specifically me is my avatar name and UUID and no security tool does a thing to hide it. 

I can see setting an orb to avoid awkward visitors. But that’s a different thing than trying to be somehow hidden. In any sense that has any non-RP meaning, you can’t hide at all.

 

 

 

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33 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:
53 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

I honestly don't see them ever rolling out the same ban line / security orb rules for all of Mainland.

There's no indication at the moment that there is any intention to do so. I think, however, that it might depend on how well this seems to be working on the new continent.

They will not roll out the ban-line ban on the mainland because now that ban-lines are banned on LL homes it becomes another "perk" for Premium members, a.k.a. selling point. The fact is that the LL Homes are a *gated community* with a Home Owners Association, Linden Lab in charge, follow the Covenant or GTFO (and I don't mean the SL game). 

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51 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

True, but you still have to be able to focus your camera on something and if there is nothing within your draw distance to focus on it is more difficult to zoom in on anything.

 

Nope, just set your camera so it doesn’t get blocked by land and then move it sideways using the controls, it will cut through everything. I do this all the time while I’m building or when I’d like to take a look at something I’m too lagged to physically get my avatar to. 

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First they came for our modesty,
Then they came for our privacy,
Then they came for our freedom,
Then there was no one left in Second Life.

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8 minutes ago, Brenda Archer said:

Nope, just set your camera so it doesn’t get blocked by land and then move it sideways using the controls, it will cut through everything. I do this all the time while I’m building or when I’d like to take a look at something I’m too lagged to physically get my avatar to. 

I always use my keyboard Ctrl & Alt keys with my mouse to cam around and zoom in/out, thus I'm constantly forgetting about the camera control thingy.

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5 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

I always use my keyboard Ctrl & Alt keys with my mouse to cam around and zoom in/out, thus I'm constantly forgetting about the camera control thingy.

The mouse is for sissies; Keyboard is QUEEN! (No intentional misandrism happening here, boys, it's just, you know, we are superior and stuffs, that's all):

http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/All_keyboard_shortcut_keys

Pay particular attention to "Navigation and Camera" section.

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20 minutes ago, Alyona Su said:

The mouse is for sissies; Keyboard is QUEEN! (No intentional misandrism happening here, boys, it's just, you know, we are superior and stuffs, that's all):

http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/All_keyboard_shortcut_keys

Pay particular attention to "Navigation and Camera" section.

Way too old to change my computer navigation habits now.

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5 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

Way too old to change my computer navigation habits now.

Not gonna make old-person jokes because I can already feel my grandpapa's fist dropping hard onto the top of my head for disrespecting my elders. ~chortles~

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1 hour ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

True, but you still have to be able to focus your camera on something and if there is nothing within your draw distance to focus on it is more difficult to zoom in on anything.

You can just open the People floater in Firestorm, right-click on the name of the person you want to look at, and select 'Zoom To'. Your camera will automatically go to where they are and follow them, without any effort on your behalf.

I did that to four people who were careening around my home region in Jeeps last night. I don't use orbs or banlines, so they were bashing into the walls of my home and just blasting around all over the place. I guess they were having fun off-roading, but if I'd been on the ground I would have been bloody annoyed at their constant smashing into my home. I was 1700m high in a skybox, but I was cammed onto the lead vehicle, until it hit the region crossing and what was clearly an orb of the person living on the edge of the next region, because the Jeep went flying backwards through the air, all the way across my region and into the one behind it. The other three vehicles followed it, and there they remained on the minimap: three motionless and one of them circling for about two hours. For all I know they're probably still there.

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7 minutes ago, Skell Dagger said:

You can just open the People floater in Firestorm, right-click on the name of the person you want to look at, and select 'Zoom To'. Your camera will automatically go to where they are and follow them, without any effort on your behalf.

I did that to four people who were careening around my home region in Jeeps last night. I don't use orbs or banlines, so they were bashing into the walls of my home and just blasting around all over the place. I guess they were having fun off-roading, but if I'd been on the ground I would have been bloody annoyed at their constant smashing into my home. I was 1700m high in a skybox, but I was cammed onto the lead vehicle, until it hit the region crossing and what was clearly an orb of the person living on the edge of the next region, because the Jeep went flying backwards through the air, all the way across my region and into the one behind it. The other three vehicles followed it, and there they remained on the minimap: three motionless and one of them circling for about two hours. For all I know they're probably still there.

It sounds like the solution might be worse than the problem in that case.

When I ran a sim I would often use the Zoom to function to check out suspicious characters on the sim, if they had been reported to me. I even got so good at remote viewing I could be dancing at an event chatting while camming 2000m away and doing some repairs and building in a different area.

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3 hours ago, Solar Legion said:

Point blank, if they're going to do anything at all related to said changes they need to keep them right where they are. 

There is no reason whatsoever to roll them anywhere else. 

Especially with how much they charge for Tier, coupled with the absolutely insane prices users place on Mainland plots. 

"Go to an Estate then!"

No.

Go buy or rent your own sim. 

See how that "works"?

Keep saying you want a community or a collaboration... It goes both ways you know. 

Personally, I'd have no problem with Linden Lab making a whole Continent with access ways and such for vehicle users built in. 

Do not force it on existing plots. Ever. 

Actually the insane prices users place on mainland plots would be a good reason to roll the changes out more widely. The high priced mainland are in areas protected from banlines with rights of way. Land value drops significantly when that is affected.

If you have a parcel in the hidden lakes area or Central area you may well being paying high prices for the protected waterways only to find your route obstructed down stream when someone comes in and puts up aggressive banlines and orbs on a tricky corner, or over waterways adjacent to the protected waterway without markers. The individual's actions will and does wipe out tens of thousands of value from all the plots up stream.

Community and collaboration does go both ways, and for all the the reasons you have given, precisely why it would be a good idea even if unlikely.

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When I first toured the new Linden area I was impressed with the details and how it was executed. I was, however, extremely disappointed at all the ban lines. I find ban lines very distracting and quite frankly unnecessary. While sailing through the region I lost three boats in ten minutes. Was I intentionally trying to "invade" somebodies space? No! All you have to do is very slightly tick a ban line and POOF your boat is gone. This causes great frustration to say the very least. Upon a second visit to this new region I was overjoyed to see that the ban lines were all gone! It was boating time once again, and not one boat did I lose. I do not intentionally try to invade a person's private property or privacy, but an occasional tick in a tight passage is unavoidable.

I do support security orbs for use on ones property with a delay setting to allow for a passing vehicle or boat in an area that is quite tight. Even with a delay, a security does it's job. It will eject those who are lingering for no good reason. It think ban lines should simply be banned totally.

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