Is resident input valuble at this point?

[Clint Maggs]

This question is to anybody that knows if LL is wanting more input on the beta.

LL Staff is welcomed to answer this as well... that's my goal.

What does LL want to know? Are only bugs going to be addressed? Will usability issues be cover in the beta?

How does LL want this information?  Reply's in the blogs?  JIRA's?......they are filled with tons of ideas already.  Will they be gone through?

I have been testing the beta the last few days on and off.   I have been using a alt to test various things but I am willing to take a day or more if needed to use the beta as my full time main viewer and make a list from top to bottom of what I see.  But... will it be in vain?  I hope this is not true and I'll spend the time doing my part if I can.

So then lets say I do this...  Will I have to submit a new JIRA or add to existing JIRA's if the idea already came up?  Each issue/idea will have to be separate?

or.... will blog repys also be read?

I'm not complaining or trying to make a debate here.  I would just like input on what route will be most effective.  If some of the rumors of "we'll just have to live with it...this is how it will be" is true......ok.   I'm not going to lose sleep over it or be mad. I was very excited the first couple days with LL staff replying to me and others but something has changed.   I'm just confused why things seemed to have changed.

Thank you for reading this and look forward to your comments. (hint hint and also LL staff)

[Irene Muni]

Clint, I don't know answer your VERY INTERESTING (at least for me) question.

To answer your question, I need to know something I do not know: What is the position of LL in launching this new viewer.

1. We, LL, have launched this viewer to hear your opinion, please tell us what should stay and what should be removed or changed.
2. We, LL, have lauched this viewer, and this will be the official viewer, this, not another. Please tell us bugs and possible features. But remember that basically already decided that this will be the new viewer.

If 1 is correct , I think input is valuable. But f 2 is correct, the input is very limited.

In any case, I will use JIRA (is not the better way, but it's the only way) and separates JIRAs.

[Clint Maggs]

Thank you Irene,  I am searching the JIRA's right now.   I'm not a natural complainer but it's a pain in the arse to navigate.

I am seeing a lot of votes on some of the issues which is great.   I truly hope LL takes those items into very serious consideration.

 

I think I became a little angry when I seen some hints that LL is'nt going to change anything.  But this is a community made by the people.  I was pretty excited to hear responces at first from LL in the posts and then.....poof nothing.

 

I've mentioned elsewhere that I was involved in a similar situation in RL with outsourcing.  Was this the best way for LL to do it..... time will tell.  But now is the time for the residents to help LL.   We wouldn't be making JIRA's and commenting here if we didn't care.

 

"In any case, I will use JIRA (is not the better way, but it's the only way) and separates JIRAs"

I'm getting the hang of the JIRA proccess.  I'll do my part there to contribute where I can.  I just didn't like the feeling of thinking I could be of use but having my hands tied behind my back (in a virtual sense).

The problem I see now is that if LL wants our input, unless you are a pro in the blogs and JIRA, your never going to find where to address your findings. I am far from a pro...but I have ideas I hope are useful.

[Irene Muni]

I agree. I think we, the residents, must help to LL with our thoughts, ideas...

But sometimes it is difficult use the JIRA for some issues.

For example (only one): I think it's a bad idea that some actions need 3 clicks in the 2.0 when in 1.23 only needed 1. But I don't know hoy report that in a JIRA (a different JIRA dor each case???).

Sometimes the problem is'nt a specific issue, but the overall designof the new viewer.

But I repeat that I basically agree with you.

[Clint Maggs]

I totaly agree.... and thats where the feedback in the forums I thought were usefull.

 

Then I look at the forums from a distance.....which LL are normal people like all of us.  How to you sort though all that???

Nothing against long replys but if 3/4 of the thread is filled with 100 points of why I HATE it, it makes the constructive critizism hard to find.

 

Tonight was my first day of testing my my main av.  I did'nt see any of the missing inventory or new folders when returning to 1.XX.  It was fairly a pleasant experience minus all the well known issues.   Dealing with group notices and IM's plain suck and I hav'nt dealt with that yet...haha

 

Anyways...thanks for your views

[BlckCobra Shikami]

Hello Clint,

LindenLab is providing a forum for feedback on Beta 2.0 where you can leave your feedback (https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/forums/v2).

Additionally you can file bugs and issues to pJIRA (http://jira.secondlife.com) as Irene stated earlier. Make sure you select the proper category (Second  Life Viewer) and version when filing issues.

Cobra

[Faubio Alter]

Yes, but not for long. Unfortunately it's design flaw maybe too late to fix. Its navigation problem. It's simple hard to move around in.