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Furries in SL--why all the hatred towards furries?

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24 minutes ago, animats said:

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The hierarchy of Second Life.

because there is no actual water in that refrigerator, all I keep seeing is the potential to put my mesh head in there on a shelf to cool down. Seeing as it is a million degrees in Oz right now, the option to do that would be bliss. Also the filling the furry tub with ice and just laying in it, also a good idea.

 

Furry confusion was huge a decade ago, and a lot of that came from Gor sims, banning, attacking etc, before anyone loses their mind, this is truth...when Gor Masters used to walk around SL with 'girls' and be outright open chat disgraceful towards Furries, it was a potential minefield, then on top of that people going to furry sims to cause drama, and so it got to the point that furries rarely left Furnation, so it ended up like being imprisoned for a lot of people. It was horrible, and yet Furries were so open to others, and so advanced in scripting and modification options, they were the start of a lot of things like prim hair for instance. I used to have a lot of furry cubbie friends when I was newer, and they would visit me at work, because i had all the powers so if anyone was rude they would be booted, It was like being a Disney Princess walking around with little cubbies following closely behind nattering on askins about this and that. The cubbies were also many years before kid avatars that were acceptable and not ***** etc. 

I did not know this was still really a thing, the hate factor, because the bigger communiities faded off due to land pricing etc, with huge Gorean chains of sims, Vampire sims like Transylvania, and the Furnations and Calledons etc, it seemed more like everyone was just everywhere. BareRose was one of the most Fur Friendly mainstreamesque stores, her ads combining skins and furries were epic for the time June Dion is an Icon :D

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I'm a bit of a chameleon in Second Life and from the beginning I've dressed to suit the Sim I'm visiting and have several "guises". Not sure if there is any prejudice against furries because I haven't really experienced a negative reaction when I'm a cat. I think it's fair to try and fit in with the Sim because oftentimes they have their own theme and reason for it. I don't mind changing into my "hooman" form in those cases 🙂

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Furrie's are actually called Kur & Kurri in gor. You should perhaps go and rp there if you wish to feel welcome/wanted.

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35 minutes ago, Haselden said:

Furrie's are actually called Kur & Kurri in gor. You should perhaps go and rp there if you wish to feel welcome/wanted.

I guess a lot of Gor rp’ers are ignorant of it. The first few years I was in SL, furries were not welcome on Gor sims.

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39 minutes ago, Haselden said:

Furrie's are actually called Kur & Kurri in gor. You should perhaps go and rp there if you wish to feel welcome/wanted.

Yeah, but you'd be surrounded by Goreans. Give me a baying mob with tar and feathers any day. It's not much different but at least we don't need to talk in pseudo Klingon.

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It is time "Catgirls of Gor" gets published... plot outline: a trio of cook aprentices from planet Neko crash their space shuttle onto Gor and has to fight off Gorean ecologists who try to preserve the suddenly endangered priest kings from extinction while the aspiring kitty cooks dream of creating the biggest plate of deep fried locust ever seen.

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5 hours ago, Fionalein said:

It is time "Catgirls of Gor" gets published... plot outline: a trio of cook aprentices from planet Neko crash their space shuttle onto Gor and has to fight off Gorean ecologists who try to preserve the suddenly endangered priest kings from extinction while the aspiring kitty cooks dream of creating the biggest plate of deep fried locust ever seen.

There were Panther Girls long ago that were part of Gor, is that the same thing ? one of our tenants was one, she used to create clothing and went Gor because there was a lot of money in it back in the day, with all the changes of dress needed and the veils etc. She used to log in to cash out so she could pay for her WOW subscription. 

 

6 hours ago, Haselden said:

Furrie's are actually called Kur & Kurri in gor. You should perhaps go and rp there if you wish to feel welcome/wanted.

Back in the olden days all Gor sims had signage very detailed rules on who and what and it was very non Furry because they were not 'real' and people that were considering themselves following all the rules of Gor (that never read the books - not being rude, it was actually a very common thing to have a Gorean Master tell you they were following all the writings but had not yet had the time to read all the books but were doing it correctly ) would get crazy about it as mentioned earlier. If that has changed that is great if everyone works out a way to live harmoniously 

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On 1/24/2019 at 8:34 PM, Sasy Scarborough said:

it was actually a very common thing to have a Gorean Master tell you they were following all the writings but had not yet had the time to read all the books but were doing it correctly

Wait. Goreans can read???

I'm surprised. If John Norman is anything to go by, they sure as hell can't write.

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Back when I joined SL in 2006, a lot of newbies chose one of the LL default furry avatars.  So a leftover from that time could be the association of furries with 'noobs', even if it's no longer true.

 

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On 1/24/2019 at 1:57 PM, Love Zhaoying said:

I guess a lot of Gor rp’ers are ignorant of it. The first few years I was in SL, furries were not welcome on Gor sims.

How is it ignorant? They even get to use a beast meter which is stronger then the default hud.

Normal Meter = ((Normal settings))

Beast meter = 50% damage reduction to arrows and melee..

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On 1/24/2019 at 7:34 PM, Sasy Scarborough said:

There were Panther Girls long ago that were part of Gor, is that the same thing ? one of our tenants was one, she used to create clothing and went Gor because there was a lot of money in it back in the day, with all the changes of dress needed and the veils etc. She used to log in to cash out so she could pay for her WOW subscription. 

 

Back in the olden days all Gor sims had signage very detailed rules on who and what and it was very non Furry because they were not 'real' and people that were considering themselves following all the rules of Gor (that never read the books - not being rude, it was actually a very common thing to have a Gorean Master tell you they were following all the writings but had not yet had the time to read all the books but were doing it correctly ) would get crazy about it as mentioned earlier. If that has changed that is great if everyone works out a way to live harmoniously 

Well, I guess furries you couldn't be something like a Dragon for a kur. However, I've seen loads of people use panther & werewolves avatars from Jomo, Niramyph, and etc.

Kurri also drove space ships and had human female slaves that they would impregnate.. So you can't really expect giant dumb ugly monster. 

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3 minutes ago, Haselden said:

Kurri also drove space ships and had human female slaves that they would impregnate.. So you can't really expect giant dumb ugly monster. 

By this logic we should not expect the gor-gors to be giant dumb ugly monsters either... LOL

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6 minutes ago, Fionalein said:

By this logic we should not expect the gor-gors to be giant dumb ugly monsters either... LOL

Correct, in theory if you got a Furrie Kur impregnating Humans. You'd think you would see some Neko's running about.

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Here's what i dont' get, why even be human to begin with? The purpose of sl was to escape the limitations of rl, what do you mean "why" and another thing i really don't understand is why there is a petition going around to ban furrys from sl? Thats like some racist white ***** asking someone to ban there highest paying customer cause there black <.< same thing with these xenophobic humans passing out petitions at rallies for the anti furry co volition

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4 hours ago, Maestro85 said:

Here's what i dont' get, why even be human to begin with? The purpose of sl was to escape the limitations of rl, what do you mean "why" and another thing i really don't understand is why there is a petition going around to ban furrys from sl? Thats like some racist white ***** asking someone to ban there highest paying customer cause there black <.< same thing with these xenophobic humans passing out petitions at rallies for the anti furry co volition

Because not everyone wants to not be human, I have worn ears and a tail but would never call myself a Neko, because that was a grouping of people, where as I was just buying things that were cute and wearing them until the next clothing change, which back in 06 used to occur usually around every fifteen minutes. I have worn the old snoopy avatar for all of about 10 seconds because that thing was like the original character test, if you wore that if something was wrong with you and then went back you were healed, it was just the full change I know, but it worked. I have blogged a full furry avatar of a Cat hybrid to show that such a product was created and wonderful, but would never call myself in that moment a Furry. I used to have a pack of Baby Furs that used to come and hang out with me where I worked back in the day, because my Bosses let them be there, let them feel safe there outside of Furnation which at one point was so sex orientated they did not want to be there. My best friend was a Kirin for a year, the next year a 512 parcel sized dragon, but he never called himself by a title he was just him. 

I do not know of any petitions, if they exist that seems like something to report because it would be essentially a hate crime. It feels like a long time ago to me that there was such a division humans (skins as I call them) vs Furries. I really hope it is not the case anywhere, SL is for everyone, but the right to be a table with cake on it (my other friend has that avatar) or a Tiny, or a Fur or a three legged donkey, is just as the same as peoples right to be the same or different than they see themselves in RL. 

I miss those little balls of fluff sometimes, they were adorable, voice coming to SL changed a lot of that for many, the demands on people to talk etc, kind of broke the fantasy.

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6 hours ago, Maestro85 said:

Here's what i dont' get, why even be human to begin with? The purpose of sl was to escape the limitations of rl, what do you mean "why" and another thing i really don't understand is why there is a petition going around to ban furrys from sl? Thats like some racist white ***** asking someone to ban there highest paying customer cause there black <.< same thing with these xenophobic humans passing out petitions at rallies for the anti furry co volition

Having a human avatar is not a limitation. A style choice is not more or less escaping the limitations of the real world. And SL has not a set in stone purpose. Everyone needs to define SLs purpose for themselves. Maybe your SL purpose is to be a giant anthro animal. Thats fine. Someone else may not find their purpose in being a giant talking animal character and thats fine aswell. Also I don't get why you dig up an old thread to rant about something with 0% relevance at all.

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7 hours ago, Maestro85 said:

Here's what i dont' get, why even be human to begin with? The purpose of sl was to escape the limitations of rl, what do you mean "why" and another thing i really don't understand is why there is a petition going around to ban furrys from sl? Thats like some racist white ***** asking someone to ban there highest paying customer cause there black <.< same thing with these xenophobic humans passing out petitions at rallies for the anti furry co volition

Let's be honest here; an ass like mine is just as much a fantasy as being an anthropomorphic animal.

Also, the 'petition to ban furrys from sl' exists only in your mind.

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9 hours ago, Maestro85 said:

Here's what i dont' get, why even be human to begin with? The purpose of sl was to escape the limitations of rl, what do you mean "why" and another thing i really don't understand is why there is a petition going around to ban furrys from sl? Thats like some racist white ***** asking someone to ban there highest paying customer cause there black <.< same thing with these xenophobic humans passing out petitions at rallies for the anti furry co volition

"Your world, your imagination"

People who want to be human can be human. People who want to be furry can be furry. People who want to be elven or demon or angel or fae or mermaid or a robot or a Great-Old-One from the depths of the Abyss can do just that. I know someone whose normal avatar is a shiny metal sphere with a hat on it.

There is no petition to ban furries from SL. At least none that's not just trolling. The 4Chan and Something-Awful folk have no weight here.

That said, any region owner can ban furries, or angels, or demons, or robots, or Great-Old-Ones, if they want to. Mostly it's roleplaying areas where such avatars don't fit the theme. Some upmarket clubs like Franks ban non-human avatars for the same reason.  But it's not the same as racism. It's more like a dress-code. It's the same as saying you have to wear a suit or a knee-length skirt in the office. 

If you want to visit such a place, the simple solution is change your avatar. Everyone has a Library-full of basic human avatars. It doesn't have to be permanent, and it doesn't have to mean anything about who you are.

 

 

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13 hours ago, Maestro85 said:

Here's what i dont' get, why even be human to begin with? The purpose of sl was to escape the limitations of rl, what do you mean "why" and another thing i really don't understand is why there is a petition going around to ban furrys from sl? Thats like some racist white ***** asking someone to ban there highest paying customer cause there black <.< same thing with these xenophobic humans passing out petitions at rallies for the anti furry co volition

This is a 5 year old thread. There are no petitions and even if there were LL would ignore it.

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13 hours ago, Maestro85 said:

Here's what i dont' get, why even be human to begin with? The purpose of sl was to escape the limitations of rl 

We could debate the "purpose of SL", but even if everyone agreed that it was to "escape the limitations of RL", who are you to decide which parts of RL someone wants to escape?

There are people in SL that cannot walk in RL, yet in SL they can walk and run and experience all of the thinks that RL denies them - and a whole lot of them are doing so as Humans.  If such a person is in SL to escape their RL 'physical' limitations, then why should they have to be non-human to do that?

Then there are others that are in SL because they can easier connect with people here without their anxiety limiting them as much.  Why should they have to be non-human for that?

Then there are all those folks that are in SL for some other reason besides "escaping the limitations of RL".

 

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2 hours ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

We could debate the "purpose of SL", but even if everyone agreed that it was to "escape the limitations of RL", who are you to decide which parts of RL someone wants to escape?

There are people in SL that cannot walk in RL, yet in SL they can walk and run and experience all of the thinks that RL denies them - and a whole lot of them are doing so as Humans.  If such a person is in SL to escape their RL 'physical' limitations, then why should they have to be non-human to do that?

Then there are others that are in SL because they can easier connect with people here without their anxiety limiting them as much.  Why should they have to be non-human for that?

Then there are all those folks that are in SL for some other reason besides "escaping the limitations of RL".

 

I'm trying escape men with shoulders like gorillas, muscles like gorillas, and genitals of unnatural size (unlike gorillas).  Did I take a wrong turn somewhere....

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Furries aren't hated in SL. As a matter of fact they are one of the biggest subgroups in SL and one of the oldest. There are very definitely furries working for LL. Yes, some RP areas or groups disallow furries, but generally it's not because they dislike furries, they are going for a certain theme that furries just don't fit into. That's fine. If the SL grid were wrapped around a planet to scale, it would be the size of Neptune. In that space there are many times more areas where furries are totally welcome than ones where they aren't. Try going to the former and ignoring the latter.

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5 hours ago, Crim Mip said:

 If the SL grid were wrapped around a planet to scale, it would be the size of Neptune. 

And 99.999% inaccessible water, with a total landmass about the size of Luxembourg. 😕

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On 1/27/2019 at 2:25 PM, Haselden said:

Correct, in theory if you got a Furrie Kur impregnating Humans. You'd think you would see some Neko's running about.

So THAT's where Nekos come from!

Silly me, I thought it was just girls buying ears and tails in the store.

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