Lunar Core Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Oh no! I've been ignored by a drama mongering troll! Oh wait, said drama mongering troll has used the time honored tactic of actually saying they have used the ignore feature in a forum post and therefore has not, in fact, used the ignore feature whatsoever. Instead, said drama mongering troll cannot take the fact that he is being made to do his own legwork or that someone is capable of dishing out far more than he is capable of receiving. Carry on then troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steph Arnott Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 "No capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Core Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 And here we have the exact proof that the ignore feature was not used, as well as a showcase for the user's inability to comprehend the difference between actually being part of the labor force and being "marginally attached". Further we see his inability to comprehend the fact that "economic reasons" are not a valid excuse for being unable to find a part time job. Note the use of foul language and the fact that "economic reasons" were never used as criteria for full time job unemployment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake1 Nightfire Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Madelaine McMasters wrote: Drake1 Nightfire wrote: Paratrex wrote: Oh my. You don't' need politics to see people's Health Insurance cancelled www.mycancellation.com because of the biggest presidental lie of our time, or a 13.2% Unemployment rate. You can go to most reputable sites and find that. At a guess... That one. According to THIS page... it never peaked above 10%. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (as reputable a site as any?), you must decide what you mean by "unemployment" before you can pluck a number out of the database. http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm Personally, I don't think U-3 is quite right. Demoralization is a societal cost, though I don't know the right way to quantify it. For that reason, it's helpful to see U-4/5/6, particularly over time. ETA: I see this furrow has already been plowed. I just figured if they could pull a random number out of their butt so could i. How is a part time employee unemployed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paratrex Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 According to this site it's at 11.5% and it explains how they got that number. Do you even live in the U.S. Luna? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-06/real-us-unemployment-rate-115http:// Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paratrex Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 LOL, I'm the troll. I guess that's why trolls on SL have recorded me and put me on YouTube with one video having about 750,000 views. Hahahaha. That is true trolling you poor soul. Go to YouTube and type in Second Life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steph Arnott Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 can i see the youtube? ADDED: Does not come up as you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Core Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 According to that site's "manifesto" they are nothing more than the latest in a line of rather wacky conspiracy theorist types. Nice try. Now see if you can find a place that doesn't use such charged language and buzz words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Core Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 And here we see a feeble attempt to justify being called out as well as an even feebler attempt to cite YouTube as a valid source. No dear, being recorded and put up on YouTube is not being trolled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceka Cianci Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Paratrex wrote: LOL you forefingers are too funny. There are 6 measurements of Unemployment in the U.S. The one they feed you on the brainwashing box is U-3. 13.2% is the true rate aka U-6. So if you really that interested here is direct statistics from the horses mouth. Here is the statistic site directly from the U.S. Government. http://http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm How do you people type being blind in both eyes? here, try my link.it works. Alternative Measures of Labor Underutilization for States, Fourth Quarter of 2012 through Third Quarter of 2013 Averages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paratrex Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 You obviously haven't watched it. No conspiracy about Americans suffering under a Marxist. No conspiracy that more Americans are on Food Stamps then anytime in history. No conspiracy that millions of people's health care is being cancelled because of O**bleep**to Care. www.mycancellation.com is just the people who posted their letters. And again there is no conspiracy with an unemployment figure that's right in front of your face. We are at 13.2% and most likely even higher. Stop worry about us and worry about your own country until we stop sending Foreign Aid to your country of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paratrex Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Am I sensing some jealousy and envy to a person who got trolled for many years and put up on YouTube that he has brought more customers to SL then any other resident. Are you star stuck dear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madelaine McMasters Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Drake1 Nightfire wrote: I just figured if they could pull a random number out of their butt so could i. How is a part time employee unemployed? A part time employee may well be under-employed. I have friends who are not able to find full time jobs because employers avoid mandatory benefits for full time workers by avoiding full time workers. A local supermarket closed here several years ago, reformed itself legally, free of previous contracts. They then re-opened in the same building under a new name. The previous staff had been nearly all full-time, receiving health insurance and retirement benefits. The new staff is almost entirely part-time, no health insurance, no retirement benefits. This may be the new normal, and economics may necessitate it, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to understand what it means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steph Arnott Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 It means more profit and no responsibilities. ADDED: A old man i know here in UK say when he work on the docks the formen threw tags, those strong enough fought for them to do a days work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceka Cianci Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 basically the 6.whatever percent it is right now is based on those on unemployment benefits. so if someone gets off of benefits and is only working part time rather than full time like they were before they were on benefits.. they still help that certain measuring of unemployment in the same way.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Core Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Kid, I live in the US. Your figure of 13.2 percent unemployment is nothing more than a fluffed up figure. Your lovely little web page concerning terminated health care plans is not the focus of this conversation and is quite irrelevant. I have no sympathy for those whose "coverage" amounted to nothing more than catastrophic coverage. Your opinion of the current President's political leanings is just that - your opinion. Zero Hedge - the site I stated had a "manifesto" which reads as conspiracy theorist level nutty - must resort to the use of emotionally charged buzz words to draw in readers. Then we have you: Incapable of actually following even a basic conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Core Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 No dear, I exist in reality, where being recorded and put up on YouTube to be ridiculed and laughed at is an every day occurrence for all MMOs/VWs. A pity you cannot tell the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steph Arnott Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 This no at you. If a person is out of work trying to find work they should be helped, if a person is out of work and is not, then that there choice, if they change then they should be help. Being unemployed is not a stigma that some put on them, things change fast those that mock maybe become the mocked. typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madelaine McMasters Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 steph Arnott wrote: It means more profit and no responsibilities. ADDED: A old man i know here in UK say when he work on the docks the formen threw tags, those strong enough fought for them to do a days work. I'm a believer in Locke's "the highest perfection of intellectual nature lies in a careful and constant pursuit of true and solid happiness". The US founding fathers may have agreed, they scribbled "Life, Liberty, and the Purfuit of Happinefs" into the Declaration of Independence. Notwithstanding their terrible spelling, I think they were pretty smart people. I suppose we forget that the Declaration says we have a inalienable right to pursue happiness, not a right to catch it. We do have to put in some effort ourselves. And therein lies the human potential for disagreement over human potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steph Arnott Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I not really understand that, I was just saying do we go back to the days of the brutal win to work and the unfortunates starve, maybe I translate it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madelaine McMasters Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 steph Arnott wrote: I not really understand that, I was just saying do we go back to the days of the brutal win to work and the unfortunates starve, maybe I translate it wrong. I certainly don't want to go back to those days, which is why I think happiness should be part of the equation, and that may argue against using U-3 to gauge unemployment in the US. If someone wants more work than they have, we should acknowledge that. Around the world, if the trend isn't towards increased happiness, I think we're doing something wrong. Fortunately... And if happiness is the thing we're pursuing, I think we have to understand why we feel it... ... and that because happiness is comparative, it's hard to understand why someone else is happy. This may explain why few Americans would want to live in the (currently) happiest country on Earth... Guatamala (eta, or Norway!). (Yes, one could argue that this "happiest country" ranking is fluff, but I think there is enough truth in these ways of looking at it to warrant consideration.) If there's a point to what I'm saying, I can't find it. I'm just waiting for one coat of varnish to dry so I can apply another. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paratrex Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Lovely little web page. You mean the page were people with terminally ill people in their family have been canceled? Really!! It's not relevant!! You better get on your knees and pray yours doesn't get cancelled and that you are lucky enough to have a healthy family. It's 1/5 of our economy ahole. Prove to me with your wonderful secret sources that 13.2% is fluffed. You won't be able too. Your living under a rock. ACA is a total catastrophe and I bet your one of Libs who believed "If you like your plan and you doctor you can keep them". A grown man/woman who can't tell when someone lies to them then lies over top of lies. I love it. In such incredible denial it makes an alcoholic in denial seem like a mere inconvenience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paratrex Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 And here is your next reading assignment Lunar. http://www.docstoc.com/docs/165510466/Navigator%20Report%20Update%20Final%2012-13-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madelaine McMasters Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Ceka Cianci wrote: Paratrex wrote: No wonder 35,000 people stopped logging into this stupid game. Concurrent users use to reach upwards up 80,000 now it's lucky to have 55,000. Ahh, but you have include in that number all the ALTS and BOTS. Do you all keep up with Tyche Shepherd's Twitter. https://twitter.com/tycheshepherd ? Would you like a visual of what I'm talking about. Here is the lasted batch of regions going bye bye. http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/virtual-business/8523-new-sl-sims-past-week-87.html#post1871943 ya it used to be around 30k regions at it's peak if i remember right.. now at a little more than 26k regions? that doesn't sound like too hard of a hit since then really.. down 4k in regions over all? Unless you compare SL to the world it inhabits, which has grown ~15% since the SL concurrency peak... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paratrex Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 That's mostly people's ALTs and newly added BOTS. I know people with over 20 ALTS. The lab has never given a way to measure either one of those population factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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