How to stop a disgruntle LL staff members alt from exploiting our sim on mainland.

[Drakeo1488303260]

Seems for the last two days some one with the knowledge of the closed grid code is exploiting the parcel edges allowing a griever to stay on his attack and fill your sim with thousands of prims of porn and  other vulgar things this is mainland .

http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Bailywick/194/53/46   only a LL staff have this knowledge of the grid so it is either a LL staff member alt or a LL staff member that sold out OZ code.

 

[Griffin Ceawlin]

Please stop creating these threads. It is highly unlikely that the person griefing that sim is an LL employee, "disgruntled" or otherwise. All you are succeeding in doing here is making yourself look like a stubborn, misinformed fool.

[Griffin Ceawlin]

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Drakeo wrote:

... allowing a griever to stay on his attack and fill your sim with thousands of prims of porn and  other vulgar things this is mainland .

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Welcome to SL. Griefers have been doing that since long before I got here.

[Drakeo1488303260]

not a griever or LL would stop the atack after 2 days it is a Alt runing a simple script that exploits the lates grid and server

[Ashy Calcutt]

I'll have to agree  its the first time i heard of a LL employee disgruntled or not to  Grief  Residents.. 

[Griffin Ceawlin]

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Drakeo wrote:

... it is a Alt runing a simple script that exploits the lates grid and server

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No doubt it is somebody's alt. But doubtful an employee of LL.

You need to AR the objects owned by m__________142 (ETA: Yeah, I went and looked at them).

And stop creating useless threads here.

[Cerise Sorbet]

That region edge bug is public, it has been discussed in office hours etc., No insider knowledge required.

[KarenMichelle Lane]

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Drakeo wrote:

 

Seems for the last two days some one with the knowledge of the closed grid code is exploiting the parcel edges allowing a griever to stay on his attack and fill your sim with thousands of prims of porn and  other vulgar things this is mainland .

http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Bailywick/194/53/46  

only a LL staff have this knowledge of the grid so it is either a LL staff member alt or a LL staff member that sold out OZ code.

 

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Drakeo,

Really? I visited your parcel and is is totally Porn-SPAM poofer free. Now as you noted,  the parcels around you are all polluted with one of the classic porn-poofers and that is visually annoying.

BTW - You are quite mistaken - The other "infected" parcels are totally open object-wise so even the dumbest griefer can score a success on them. Hardly what I call "locked-down" land.

Alas, this is what you get when you have neighbors who are clueless about even basic security measures.

I filed an abuse report on your behalf.

P.S. So share with us that evidence that this is a disgruntled LL employee again? . . . . . . .  Yeah, I didn't think so.. Now,  If you have filed incomplete A.R. Reports then you are to blame for LL not dealing with them.

P.S.S. - "I'm sure that YOU are the griefer object-poofing the neighboring parcels" - Prove me wrong! - You get the stupidity of that kind of logic? Please stick to just filing complete A.R.'s and let the [ lethargic because they are overloaded ] Linden Lab Staffers get around to you when they can.

[Innula Zenovka]

Just to add to KarenMichelle's point, here's a picture of your land I've just taken, with particles and water turned off, and landowner lines (red) turned on, so it's clear what's happening.

As you will see, all the self-replicating cubes are on neighbouring parcels, piling up at the edge of yours.   The problem is with the surrounding parcels.   You're unfortunately caught in the middle (literally) but no one has circumvented your settings to rez stuff on your land.   Similarly, I am certain the particle spam (not visible in this picture) is simply drifting in from emitters on the neighbouring parcels.

 

 

[KiraLynnn]

just turn off object entry and build, you'll be set to go then. Your neighbors should do the same.

[KarenMichelle Lane]

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Innula Zenovka wrote:

Just to add to KarenMichelle's point, here's a picture of your land I've just taken, with particles and water turned off, and landowner lines (red) turned on, so it's clear what's happening.

As you will see, all the self-replicating cubes are on neighbouring parcels, piling up at the edge of yours.   The problem is with the surrounding parcels.   You're unfortunately caught in the middle (literally) but no one has circumvented your settings to rez stuff on your land.   Similarly, I am certain the particle spam (not visible in this picture) is simply drifting in from emitters on the neighbouring parcels.

 

 

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Ohhhh this reminde me of the CUBE Trilogy - Cube IV - The cube comes to you!!!

[Drakeo1488303260]

see you did not go to the land because the other residents have ar  also hun  OMG

 

[Drakeo1488303260]

this is what my customers have sent me

This has not been dealt with yet and I have just contacted your Billing Information department to try and get info on making a complaint.  They are forwarding me contact details for the local authorities (Police).  As well as the usual griefer issues of a multi prim rezzer causing lag mayhem, some of the images contained are the worst possible, and definately illegal.  I have seen photographs of kittens being beheaded, and kittens being burned to death, domestic rabbits being skinned, photographs of severed human limbs and bodies (clearly murder scenes), decomposing human heads in closeup, the bloody and dismembered body of a CHILD, explicit sex acts, women defecating and eating excrement.  This has been ARd numerous times by me over the last 24 hours as well as by a number of other people, yet this is still there.  I had nightmares last night because of this traumatic and disturbing and clearly illegal material and yet it has not been removed yet.

this is the video

[Drakeo1488303260]

 

[KarenMichelle Lane]

Drakeo,

Have you really been in SL since Jan 2011?  and not learned anything about mainland parcels and property boundaries and security? Other than moving your business you need to just wait and tough it out.

Now you know why a lot of merchants lease parcels on "Managed" Full Regions or Homestead Regions. The Estate Owner and the Estate Managers can clear that mess up in 22 1/2 seconds flat. Of course we tend to only concentrate on making our regions the best we can for our tenants.

Since you are a Premium Member, have you tried chatting with the Live Staff team? Just asking.

 

BTW: All those gross images are all readily available on the Internet. Griefers are not in the habit of murdering others and animals so they can post their immoral behavior here in SL on moving prim faces where the audience falls in the 10's of 100's.

 

[Drakeo1488303260]

Wow your so kind yes I have but never ever waited this long for support to fix this problem.

 I have spent many years on the viewer before 2007 and  was not till 2011 did I retire and actually come in to the world as an avatar. If you understood how easy it was to fix this you would be ashamed of the support system.

Or are you one of the people that think other viewers are better and moor secure than the one developed by LL.

 the grid is closed this script takes in the fact that the latest server  simulator  has a problem with permissions on boundary lines. Only  very few people on staff know this OK. Get with it.

[Perrie Juran]

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Drakeo wrote:

Wow your so kind yes I have but never ever waited this long for support to fix this problem.

 I have spent many years on the viewer before 2007 and  was not till 2011 did I retire and actually come in to the world as an avatar. If you understood how easy it was to fix this you would be ashamed of the support system.

Or are you one of the people that think other viewers are better and moor secure than the one developed by LL.

 the grid is closed this script takes in the fact that the latest server  simulator  has a problem with permissions on boundary lines. Only  very few people on staff know this OK. Get with it.

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And just exactly how do you know about this 'permissions problem' then?

Did a Linden tell you about it?

Quit talking to us like we are against you.  We aren't.  We are not your enemy here.

[KarenMichelle Lane]

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Drakeo wrote:

Seems for the last two days some one with the knowledge of the closed grid code is exploiting the parcel edges allowing a griever to stay on his attack and fill your sim with thousands of prims of porn and  other vulgar things this is mainland .

http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Bailywick/194/53/46  

only a LL staff have this knowledge of the grid so it is either a LL staff member alt or a LL staff member that sold out OZ code.

 

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Mhm........ Really. Did you not pay attention to Innula Zenovka's picture clearly showing where the emitter objects are located? You are looking at the poofer emitter prims, which have scripts that issue self deleting particle objects that fill your visual cortex with all the raw images. Here, I've reposted her pic for you.

 

See how all the emitter cubes are crowded adjacent to your property lines? She turned off the display of the particles to show you how this works The temporary particle poofer images will obscure this and yes they wander into secured parcel areas as they always have. Nothing new here. This is the way particles have worked for as long as I've seen and used them.

Sorry to poke a hole into your conspiracy theory.

Why don't you save this picture and file one more A.R. with this picture attached. This my actually help LL prioritize your issue. Stop wasting your time complaining here. We are really on your side wanting this to be resolved. Escalating it by making baseless accusations only lessens your case. Just stick to the facts.

 

[Drakeo1488303260]

Well guess what  go to the land and see they only can stay on the boundry lines. It don't take much looking at it to see the parcel line encroachment has been pretty well exploited with the latest simulator. 

I have not said much bad about SL this is a serious issue and you know you all can  look the other way or look at the source of the problem.

So as with me some one IM me  a neighbor said some  one was atacking the land with replicating prims I  said thanks  look at the land manager only our prims are there think nothing of it. then you  go down to the land and you see that the prims are on the parcel lines  and are replicating. If you do not see this as a serious problem such as waisted resource On LL  and the severe use of bandth width  I am sorry it is a real issue when people open there mouth in a trusted community LL has a problem with a staff leak and this is what they must call an acceptable bug.

if you all would be so kind as to work on this problem from the source and admit their is staff issues as all companies have.  Unfortunately I feel sorry for LL in this because they have created a system that lets people atack there own market.. How many were happy in the UK when those hunderds of jobs where taken away. the day you think a company has only  angels working for them is the day you  lose.

Two years ago LL cleaned house for this problem and you know it will happen again.

http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Linden-Lab-Reviews-E100549.htm

really how hard is it to log in and clear the prims in the estate manger land manager. think about it.

 

[Perrie Juran]

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Drakeo wrote:

Well guess what  go to the land and see they only can stay on the boundry lines. It don't take much looking at it to see the parcel line encroachment has been pretty well exploited with the latest simulator. 

 

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And this "prooves" it is an Ex Linden doing it?

Innula who is one of the top scripters in SL could probably come up with a dozen ways to do this in less time than it took you to write your post.

Me, I'm not as smart but even I can think of a couple of ways.

It is not an "exploit."  The griefers are using a perfectly fine function that there are many legitimate uses for.

 

Does it suck that it happens?  Yes.  Would we like faster response time from LL?  Absolutely.  No one has said different.   But something we all know is that sometimes it takes the patience of Job when dealing with LL.

If you are wanting SL to be a perfect Utopia, well, it's just not going to happen.  No matter how much we may or may not want it.

 

 

[Dresden Ceriano]

You seem to be under the misconception that LL's staff actually pay any attention to this forum whatsoever.  Let me clear this up for you... they do not.

In other words, if it makes you feel any better to vent your frustrations by ranting at your fellow SL users, by all means, carry on.  But know that this is most likely the only positive outcome to be had by doing so.

I've seen things such as this cleared away in minutes and, at other times, it seemed to have taken almost a week.  I honestly don't know why some are dealt with more quickly than others, but that's just how it is.  My point is that eventually it will be taken care of, until then you might want to temporarily turn your maximum particle count to zero.

...Dres

[Drakeo1488303260]

yes the venting helps and it is a good thing.

[KarenMichelle Lane]

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Drakeo wrote:

yes the venting helps and it is a good thing.

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OKies - sending you to the Stress Relieving Bubble Wrap popping site...

http://www.bubblewrapfun.com/assets/games/bubblePop.html

Have fun

 

[Drake1 Nightfire]

Put

Up

A

Wall.....

[Innula Zenovka]

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Drakeo wrote:

 the grid is closed this script takes in the fact that the latest server  simulator  has a problem with permissions on boundary lines. Only  very few people on staff know this OK. Get with it.

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I don't understand what you mean.   Yes, there's long standing issues, and associated exploits, of various sorts with sim boundaries, but since your parcel is bang in the middle of the sim I don't really see how that would apply.

It certainly looked to me, when I took a look at your parcel yesterday, as if all the boxes were piling up on the edges of the parcel, outside it (or at least with their roots outside it).   That says to me they are being rezzed on your neighbours' parcels and getting stuck on the border because your settings won't let them enter your parcel.

The particles are a different matter.  They are a client-side phenomenon, and there's no ready way to stop them entering a parcel.    That may be changing before long, but I don't think it's been introduced on the main grid yet (all I know about is what I read last month in Nalates' blog under the heading BUG-1940), and I suspect that's going to be a user, rather than a parcel, setting.

As it is, I'm willing to bet the particles are coming from the same place the boxes are -- your neighbours' parcels.  If I get time later, I'll come over and take a look for them   I think you mentioned in an earlier post, though, that your neighbours had submitted ARs, too.   If that's the case, I don't see why they didn't use the parcel tools at their disposal  to locate and return the griefing rezzers and particle emitters.