Remove permision to control my avatar?

[Gaspare Alectoris]

Someone is able to control the animation of my avatar... and i just sitted on a box. I didn't accepted diretcly some permision or stuffs like that. These guy is able to play animation on my avatar or deform me.. any solution?

[valerie Inshan]

Look for undeformer tools on the marketplace and see if it helps you, such as these ones:

https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Lindatool-undeformer-HUD/2126730

https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Stop-animations-Undeformer/3517231

Btw, if you know the name of this person, you may want to block/mute him, too. 

[jwenting]

as long as the person has the object that you gave permission, he can always animate you unless he himself revokes the permission.

And yes, you gave permission, quite probably through some innocious looking thing like a request from a hugger or dance chim (which these things call themselves to hide their true identity).

Using options to stop animations or deformers only stops the running animation or deformation, it does not prevent the griefer from doing the same to you again.

As you noticed, blocking him does not do anything. AR the griefer, and hope he gets banned is the only thing you can do besides hoping he gets bored and moves on to some other idiocy.

[Gaspare Alectoris]

So.. there's no way to stop him?

[Freya Mokusei]

Go to a different sim or track down a viewer that lets you revoke permissions.

As I understand it, Firestorm will allow you to do this. The guy may need to be in the same sim with you and I don't know how to get to that feature. Maybe someone else can advise.

[Gaspare Alectoris]

Woot! Someone of you guys know.. How to remove this permission , using firestorm or other wiever?

[valerie Inshan]

In Firestorm Preferences, it should be under the Protection Tab. Here's the Firestorm wiki about this:

http://wiki.phoenixviewer.com/preferences_firestorm_tab

 

• Revoke Permissions: Removes an object's permission to animate or control your input. If this is not done, the object retains permission to animate your avatar indefinitely:
  • Never (original behaviour): Objects will retain permission to always animate your avatar.
  • Revoke on SIT: Revokes permission when you sit on the object.
  • Revoke on STAND: Revokes permission when you stand up from sitting on the object.
  • Revoke on SIT and STAND: Revokes permission when you either sit or stand.

[Freya Mokusei]

Thanks Valerie.

It seems that method won't work if the original box for this has been removed, or a copy has been taken of its running state. Or if they're using permissions gained from an attachment or HUD. All are possible bordering on likely.

Worth a try though.

[Gaspare Alectoris]

Where I find this menu?

[valerie Inshan]

I cannot connect to SL right now (I'm at work... *coughs*), but I assume it would be under Preferences > Firestorm > Protection.

You may also have a look at the Avatar Health menu. Maybe you'll find something that helps in here.

http://wiki.phoenixviewer.com/fs_menus

Avatar Menu > Avatar Health:

Avatar Health: opens the Avatar Health sub menu

• Stop avatar animations: use to stop animations acting on your avatar
• Undeform Avatar: Attempts to undeform your avatar, to recover its normal shape after deformation by the use of oversized avatars or griefer objects.

[Gaspare Alectoris]

i looket at it.. but where i find the menu for remove permission?

[valerie Inshan]

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Freya Mokusei wrote:

Thanks Valerie.

It seems that method won't work if the original box for this has been removed, or a copy has been taken of its running state. Or if they're using permissions gained from an attachment or HUD. All are possible bordering on likely.

Worth a try though.

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I'm not a regular user of Firestorm, Freya. I just use it to take pictures because of the huge choice of windlight settings! And, in my many years in SL, I've been lucky to never got griefed! But you are right, this method might not work but I would still give it a try. Plus, the Avatar Health menu I just mentioned above. :smileyhappy:

[Gaspare Alectoris]

No problem i found it. but i can't remove the permision of the avatar to animate me  from there .

[valerie Inshan]

Have you tried this Gaspare?

Avatar menu (at the top left of the screen) > Avatar Health:

 

[Gaspare Alectoris]

Ive try it but . No menu for remove permission ...

[Rolig Loon]

This is not really a scripting question, but it has been discussed here before.  Freya's answer is the correct one.  Unfortunately, if the object that is controlling you has been picked up by whoever made it, there is no way to remove the permission that you granted to it.  That "feature" of the permission system -- an old bug (https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-1006? ) --- has been discussed in several threads in other forums. 

See, for example ....

http://community.secondlife.com/t5/LSL-Scripting/Revoking-Permissions/m-p/1112303

http://community.secondlife.com/t5/General-Discussion-Forum/Is-this-a-valid-warning/m-p/2073101

[Qie Niangao]

Coincidentally, there's recent progress on this. The current BlueSteel channel has the server side of a fix (release notes here) to VWR-13228 that, with a pending viewer change, will alter the behavior of Me / Movement / Stop Animating Me such that any objects in the sim will lose PERMISSION_TRIGGER_ANIMATION for the requesting avatar.

This seems to be what the old Phoenix / Firestorm viewer control was trying to do, except it will mostly work, including for both attached and unattached objects. It is still limited to affecting only those objects rezzed in the sim at the time "Stop Animating Me" is invoked, so it's not the nuclear option, but it'll be an improvement over anything we've had before.

[Rolig Loon]

That's very good to hear.  Thank you, Qie.  It doesn't quite get rid of the possibility that the bug can be exploited as a griefer tool, but it puts a big dent in it.

[Gaspare Alectoris]

so what remaing to me? only  the hope?

[Freya Mokusei]

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Gaspare Alectoris wrote:

so what remaing to me? only  the hope?

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Unfortunately it seems so. There is no good way to remove permissions once granted yet.

As I stated earlier in the thread, going to a sim where this person can't find you might be your best bet. People such as this often lose interest in their chosen targets quickly, once it requires effort. Maybe you could use the opportunity to explore some new places, or pick up a new SL hobby?

[Perrie Juran]

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Freya Mokusei wrote:

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Gaspare Alectoris wrote:

so what remaing to me? only  the hope?

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Unfortunately it seems so. There is no good way to remove permissions once granted yet.

As I stated earlier in the thread, going to a sim where this person can't find you might be your best bet. People such as this often lose interest in their chosen targets quickly, once it requires effort. Maybe you could use the opportunity to explore some new places, or pick up a new SL hobby?

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I'm wondering if this is ARable under harrassment and if LL can do anything internally on the systems to remove the permission.

There have been a few products that have 'disappeared' from the Market Place that utilized this exploit.  Makes we wonder. 

[Rolig Loon]

Since you cannot remove the permissions, the best you can do are defensive measures.  You have a wonderful pre-"Resident" name and you probably have an inventory rich with no-transfer items, so abandoning your av is out of the question.  You may want to go halfway, though.  Create an Alt (you may have already done this ... ) and transfer as much of your inventory as you can.  Then start using your Alt a your primary av and let your current main account become the banker, the silent partner ....  And start using the Firestorm option (in Preferences >>> Firestorm >>> Protection >>> Revoke on STAND ) that revokes permission when you stand up from sitting on an object.

[Gaspare Alectoris]

Never mind- Ill keep my avi. i don't see him much. so i hope that while i spin in places someone don't deform me . !

[AodhanDomhnall]

I'm sorry for the thread necro, but I have a friend who is having the exact same issue. After spending hours googling and searching for solutions/scripts, all options have thus far been exhausted. Is there any new information members of this particular thread may be able to provide?