Lindens Maestro Linden Posted July 9, 2013 Lindens Share Posted July 9, 2013 We're back with an action-packed round of server updates this week, with three new projects entering RC. Second Life Server (main channel): The main channel is getting the server maintenance project that was on all three RC channels last week. This project fixes some crash modes and fixes some LSL-related bugs. https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Server/13#13.06.21.277682 Scheduled Tuesday 2013-07-09 05:00-12:00 PDT Second Life RC BlueSteel BlueSteel is getting a new project this week. This project is another one with under-the-hood changes for experience tools. https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_BlueSteel/13#13.07.03.278277 Scheduled Wednesday 2013-07-10 07:00-11:00 PDT Second Life RC LeTigre LeTigre is also getting a new project this week. This project, called 'server side appearance', changes the way in which avatars set their appearance. More details of this project can be found here and here. https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_LeTigre/13#13.07.03.278295 Scheduled Wednesday 2013-07-10 07:00-11:00 PDT Second Life RC Magnum: Magnum is also getting a new server maintenance project this week. This project fixes two bugs related to pathfinding. https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_Magnum/13#13.07.08.278357 Scheduled Wednesday 2013-07-10 07:00-11:00 PDT We will be monitoring this thread as the code gets released, so feel free to note any observations you have about the server updates. If you have a specific bug you'd like to report, please file a Jira. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theresa Tennyson Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Maestro, after the LeTigre roll will the the servers actually be doing the baking in those regions, or is the code just being deployed but not switched on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirly Fizzle Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 Theresa Tennyson wrote: ...or is the code just being deployed but not switched on? It looks like LeTigre will be using SSA as soon as it's rolled on Wednesday. "Client side baked textures are no longer shared with other connected agents, so the functionality was removed." This means that on LeTigre regions, people using non-SSA compatible viewers will show as unrezzed clouds to everyone using an SSA viewer and people on a non-SSA viewer will see everyone using an SSA viewer as a grey avatar. Anyone who has not updated to an SSA compatible viewer should do so ASAP. Viewer 3 users - latest download can be found HERE Phoenix Viewer users see HERE Firestorm users should be on the 4.4.2 release, see HERE Other third party viewer users, be sure to have updated to your viewer's SSA compatible release. As far as I am aware all the viewers listed in the top section of the TPV directory are SSA compatible apart from Imprudence, Dolphin and Exodus. CoolVL Viewer which is not listed on the TPV directory is SSA compatible. (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong about Imprudence, Dolphin and Exodus viewers not being SSA compatible). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindens Maestro Linden Posted July 9, 2013 Author Lindens Share Posted July 9, 2013 Hi Theresa, my understanding is that server side appearance will be fully enabled with the LeTigre update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerise Sorbet Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 For people who like Exodus, there are nightly builds that should be OK for server side appearance. These are not supported at all, but I've found the Windows build, at least, to be very usable. It looks like they may be trying to get a normal release out too, but it's not out yet. Adding -- EXodus now has a supported SSA version out, Beta 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfBaginski Bearsfoot Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 We do seem to be making SSA complicated. But I've seen some pretty dumb questions asked elsewhere on the Forums. I hope nothing goes wrong on Wednesday. Past reports from user group meetings suggested that it wouldn't necessarily be activated on a whole RC in one swell foop. I hope everyone involved on the Linden side is speaking from the same script. I suspect Firestorm Support is going to be interesting tomorrow, for Chinese Curse values of "interesting". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Mode Posted July 9, 2013 Share Posted July 9, 2013 At present , the old Imprudence is the Kokua , and as they say , Kokua versions 3.5.1 forward are SSA capable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindens Nyx Linden Posted July 9, 2013 Lindens Share Posted July 9, 2013 We've done a handful of smaller tests of SSA. The roll tomorrow will be to a full RC channel, as previous testing has not turned up release-blocking issues. We will be monitoring the release carefully. If you note particular oddities or bugs with the release, please file a JIRA with your observations and we will investigate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwenting Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 thumbs up, Nyx. Looking forward to an (near) end to bake failure :matte-motes-bashful-cute-2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenMichelle Lane Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 For those anxious to play in the new SSA enabled regions, here is the LeTigre Region List. Pick your favorite region and test it out after the RC Channel roll-out is completed.. RC LeTigre (n=1431) 1st Act 6Claws Kurii Mountain Achemon Ackland Adfut Aediman Hill Aelburt Ainu Airtol Hill Akhal Teke Alba South Aldar Beedo Aldridge Alexandria Allana Almond Aloha Ocean Ridge Alora Alston Aluluei Alurian Sea Alvensleben Amberaldus Amee AMORPHIS VI Ampollino Ancient Rising Ancient Ward Island Angel Haven Isle Angelfish CayYourHOME Angelic Isles Animus Annamaria Bushido Anthill Antonella Antovic Anvil Aquilla Arachnod Aragonese Arah Archers Architeuthis Arend Arginutti Arguilleries Argybargy Arlberg Armanado Armonya Arnthrud Artemisia Island Artisan Haven Aryal Ascalon Asha Ashuertus Assiettes Atolia Aube Austerity Awenhai Azkul Azure Dreams Baba Yaga Babel Baddest Baffin Bagat Bagheera Baidu Baileya Baines Balboa Beach Baleful Balenissa Grove Ballyboo Balramyuk Banquo Bap Baramdoli Baranow Barbarossa Bay Barefoot Beaches Barrington Barushkya Bascom Basenville Bashkortostan Basilisk Bassenthwaite Bastet Batak Batfish Bauerbridge Bay City - Dennis Bay Walk Beauvais Bedenham Bedos Beech Beeratron Beerlo Before Tomorrow Beggars Bowl Behling Behrii Bella Bellar Belleville Belmeade Belmont Belphegor Bemento Benjamin Benten Beraudes Berthould Pass Besouro Bestone Betelgeuse Beverly Beach Bicycle Fish Biondello Birch Bishes Bisset BlackHouse Blackslough Blainroe Blair Blake Blakeley Rise Blankenberg Blarn Isle Bleaberry Tarn Blenwyn Bleu Bleubry Blueberry Bluedrake BlueDreams Islands 000 BlueDreams Islands 007 Blumoi Bois de Boulogne Boisesono Boksunga Bona Bonaire Bay Bonaire CountryClub Bay Bonaire11 Boncarus Bondomia Bonita Bonzo Borden Borgbeef Borgenite Bouncer Bowstring Brabham Bracket Brackish Brampton Branfield Brauteux Bravium BREEDABLE FOREVER Brendon Brianconnais Brodie Point Brodir Brooks Brownkin Brownlee Bruissac Budantsev Bulgogi Bulyea Bume Buncrana Bundaberg Bundz Bunzi Buttercup Buttinski Bydalen Cabo Paraiso Caeshu Cafemar Caitlins Cove Calcium Caldbeck Cale Valley Caledon Kittiwickshire Calico Calimera Calintreau Camlann Tarl Camorro Campion Canfield Cape CoLA Cape Sable Capiz Island Capungo Carlovitz Carra Cavettaz Caymen Shores Ceilostomo Ceneselli Cerasi Cerberus Chamisak Charlemagne Chasm Deep Chautzer Che Che Chessie Chicoutimi China Town Chinati Choo YABAINE Chromex Ciarnau Cicero Cipactli City of Monaco Cl Chikas Cove Claressa Clarksburg Clearbrook Cleary Cliansa Clockwork Clontarf Cloudrider CNDG Eastern Sea CNDG Western Sea Coelacanth Colcord Columbia Combat (sandbox) - Blue Team's H Computer Constance Coontz Coralia Coriander Corinaldo Costa Nero Cotehill Coviran Cradle Crash Boat Crastid Cresent Moon Cressa Crimson Coves Crooks Island Crookshanks Crowdore Crumbi Crustacea Curio Curle Cyan Isle Cygnus Isle Dace Daemon Daggertooth Dakhanavar Dallows Dalton Dammastock Danbo Danpoon Dark Energy Dark Sanctum Darkmane Darminas Date Harbour Daultam Dautrich Davenport Davigdor Davila Davis Gulf Daydream Island Dead End Dearham Dearheart Deemin Defenesteer Degar Delinka Cove Denfelir Denholme Field Denrolimus Denshore Desire Determined Dharmaraksa Dibiwitz Diefenbaker Diloba Dinah Dindrane Elfor Direskin Discipline Disco Italy Divine Madness II Djorven Dodam Doesburg Dokkaebi Dolly Dreams Dolphin Riff Donalbain Donggyeo Dongjak Dongmoon Donohue Doomaekkot Drakul Dream World Dreaming Through Dreams of Heaven Dreamworld Koala Dreamworld Wind Driftwood Drum Drumm Duggan Dugmore Dugong Dulce Dunai Dungarvan Dunnideer Dunnylun Duzzclown Dylamon Eagle Eagles Roost Eddie Eden Albatros EEBA Egan Egill Eglador Eirol Eldridge Electra Elisia Elmaer Elysian Embu Emerald Dewdrops Emerald Falls Enchanted World Endeavour Hills Enego Engine Nine Ennin Enterprise Bay Enzo Equalibrium Cove Erik Escama Escapes Essex Estern Hal Etamin Eumo Eunpyung Europa Euryale Eve Evening Dreams Excalibur Exland FaeryDreams Falkenburg Fallen Angels Fama Fancy Designs Fanghammer Far Sight Farcastle Faridhoo Farmington Fatpaws Faulconbridge Fauthos Fearly Fearzom Felonhall Fendahl Fenitola Fenland East Ferguson Fermat Fieldfare Fillip Filnu Fiorella Fire Bay Fishii Fjord av Hammaren Flamerider Flo Florencio Flounder Flying Hippos Foley Fordham Foreck Foresta FOREVER PARADISE Forgenwauld Forthfield Fortimus Foulds Cross Fountainhead Fourd FP Yokai FRANCE3D Ouessant Fraser Frenscent Friantucci Frolics Fruggoof Fuglesang Fugo Fumizuki Furki Fushida Fusilier Fuson FUSSION LATINA Fuudens Fyrebird Gaia Rising Mysticsea Galesburg Gallinas Gamma Quadrant Ganymede Gar Gardulla Gariepy Garleon Gautsch Gavriel Gawain Gay City Beach Gealain Geometer Gergonne Geum Giamoure Gilbut Gilda Pointe Gilgamesh Gilpatric Girotte Glacken GLAM Island Glumdale Goffs Gogatsu Golden Bay Golden Isle Gomphus Good Times Goodnight Goremoor Gouda Grace Grahica GranVilles World Graybar Great Staughton Great Urswick Green Ray Grendel Grieshe Grimes Grimsvotn Guinevere Island Guitar Gun Gurbsyk Gurley Gyala Gye Ran Haddow Haebaragi Halfclaw Hallgerda Hamayumi Hamlin Hangangjin Hanibaram Hanjin Hanko Hardangerfjord Harfax Harlman Hautala Hawkins Hazeltine Heaton Heaven's Sense Heavens Touch Heffenbaum Heledon Hellish Helmudhoe Help Island Public2 Helsing Henbert Hentamaki Hergersheimer Hierogryph Higgins Hildegarde Hilling Hilmalchuli Himmafushi Island Hjalmer Hogback Holland Paradise Honah Lee Basin3 Honah Lee Lagoon Honah Lee Vista Honawan Honeoye Honeyoe Falls Horisme Horsa Hot Midsummers Night Hotspur Houlihan Hubunny Huet Sea Hugues Hunbglump Huntsman Hurak Huron Hwaegi Hydes Hydrathan Hymule Hypolazy Hyralios Idunn Immidae Imugi Increta Infinity Gate Inglewood Ink Cap Insel Atoll INSILICO NORTH Intertwined Intromoto Invention IOD Virtual Spaces Irizarri Irnini Ironauld Iseghey Ishlon Isis Isle Isla Gaviota Island Of Love Isle of Magic Isle of Tears Isola Della Luna Ithaka ITLAND Village I Izzies Jadeite Jaffee Jagiello Janus Jarawa Jersey Shore Jessgate Jessie Jet Ski Jiachong Jibber Jindalrae Jinson Jonestown Joomos Jorgie Jorunn Jouppi Jubee Jublad Junos Rest Juriah Juune Kabara Kaemi Kailash Kama Center Kamalakara Kanaloa Kandinsky Kandor Kanin Kankovan Kannimara Kanterham Kartodov Kasba Kateyland Katla Kentford Keraxic Keturah Key West Island Khanuy Gol KIDD Grass Landscape Kileinan Kilkenny Kindred Spirit 3 Kinningly Kishijoten Kitaro Klaviscious Klaw Klior Knaptrackicon Ko Chang Koala Koeulla Korfield Koro Kotkas Kraai Krage Kraizek Kraken Kranco Krugier Kuhrang Kukac Kurkenbrai KURONI NEO Kuttara Kuyto Kwaito La Sandia Island Laamu Island Lady Starlight Laidly Worm Laila Lake Springs Lamprey Lanestris Lanin Lapara Laqroki Lasiocampa Lastenham Lastness Lauzon LEA10 Leafminer Leebon Leemington Lefabre Left Of Heaven Leidon Leiplow Leminola Lemonade Lendrum Leonantus Lepiota Lestern Leto Yoshiro Leuran Liaris Liberty City Libestus Lie Liera Lilith Lineside Ling Liome Lionel Liquid Frontier Liraffe Liskamm Little Songbird Lizi Lliras Loach Logray Lohengrin Long Meg Lonnie Lonsdale Lonzan Loogaroo Loomino Loon Loorq Lost Darkness Loti Lotus Lotus Bay Loughrigg Lovers Paradise Lozi Ludjatako Lunalis Lupulinus Lusiana Lyster Mabinogion Machhapuchhre Maemilkkot Magimoto Maginn MAGNETIC II Maitake Majipoor Majorero Malhaven Mallow Malvern Malyshkin Mamaku Manaslu Manatoba Mandu Manhattan Isle Manniq Maory Island Maplegrove Marafi Marasmius Marcell Marianna Maroon Marvil Masan Mastiphal Mathis Maya Lake NE 1 MAYFAIR Mayleiss MayLou Mbokomu McFee McGruff Mediterranean Sea Meeroo Mania Meewalh Meglos Meighen Meincassel Meldenrake Melody Memussi Menophra Mephit Mercia Mertseger Meyonohk Michelangelo Midnight Forest Mikailovic Milan Milarepa Milda Milehouse Miliaco Mills Haven Milvus Minerva0 Minnow Minoru Musashi Minotussen Mirinae Missing Beckett Mission Impossible Mistopia MiTaMa Mocis Mokualii Moliman Mollyo Momil Mon Bayete Mondrian Monevole Moni Targa Monsalvat Monty Monument Mooaleo Moobthunb Mooloruem Moomit Moon Beach Moon River Moonberry Moonfall Dream Moonfall Secrets Moonlight Forest Moordon Moorinda Moork Moose Morag Moran Moray Morestello Moreton Bay Morgaines Bluff Morgan Morgan Pass Morgause Morgawr Moritz Morpheus Morris Morta Sant1 Mortons Gully Mosh South Mosquito Mostly Beatrice Motocyclone Mount Bump Mud Muhongo Muinstown Mujoul Mulcahy Mullett Muskeg Muslin Mutsuki My Paradise Mya Mo Myanimo Myrtle Mystery Caye Mystic Sea Nakgol Nakiska Nanakusa Nanda Napuka Island Narugo Nashville Music Row Native Spirit Naussau Nautilus - Adherbal Nautilus - Shalim Nautilus - Suniaton Nautilus - Yarikh Nelsonia Nerani Nerice Never Ending Neverdol Neverov Neveryear New Scottish Highlands New Tolmussen Neyo Nightfall Niirsun Nimue Nishijima NL Ranch No Norf Haven Normiesh Northeast Seaport Nosver Novatron Noyo Nuclear Nugae Numazawa Oak Bay Oakley Oamaru Bay Oase Atoll Oasis Shores Obscuro Valkyrie Ocean Shores Octavio Isle Oddjob Odeon Odie Odins Outpost Odumin Ogilvie Ogrobi Okemo Gorge Olavtoppen Olberlos Old Foxwood Old Hen Oltonfell Omanix Omer Onatopp Ontario Oppeano Optiman Oraenji Orbel Orbide Ordino Orions Vale Orivesi Orlov Oryol Osato Osho Osiliers Othala Othello Oud Holland Owl Owlet Oxbrow Ozerna Ozza Paceglen Pachylia Pacifica Bay Padan Paduk Pahringull Pahto Paikea Palomarian Pandora Magic Paneer Panquehue Panther Isle Paradise of Eden Parluck Part of Heaven Passion Addicted Passionkiller Pastiche Paulters Pavane Pavonia Pawprint Paradise Paxson Payens Peace Beach Peaceful Journey 2 Pearl Bay Pellston Penguin Bay Petruchio Phantasm Phasmogoria Phearsom Philsen Philudoria Picnic Piera Salino Pilastro Pinola Vale Pintano Pira Targa Pitreavie Plentridge Plienode Ploughman Pockwock Poggiodomo Polasido Polia Poliahu Polimo Pompelmoo Ponoka Poorlatrice Porcupine Portabello Porten Hill Porto Alegre Potter Poursollet Predrow Priasmin Proffitt Promethium Prospero Pruetti Prychek Pryde Pug Purdy Qeestein Qoolbeens Qoopz Quasar Quelmire Quetzal Quilassito Quillback Quirrola Rabe Rachel's Crew Raelma Raffaello Ragnar Rainbow Land Rakshasa Rannveig Ratmaw Ratzenberger Rauban RAWR Rayner Raziel Vesperia Razorwulf RBM Reckless Recursion Red Dalia Red Windsor Redear Redemption Island Redstone Redwood Forest Reedenham Reignier Reishi Rekal Thor Release Relleri Renoir Repitions of Love Rethymno Reykjanes Reynolds ReTreat Rhianna Rhodenwald Riback Riccione Rinpoche Rio de Amor Riun Rol Rivata Riverwalk Rivuline Rollie Romeno Romeo Rookwood Root Squared Rose Island Rostov Rotherham Room101 Roxanne Rungala Rurik Rydal Saena Saeneul Sagwa Saint Barth Saint Pengo Sakai Salgu Salmo Sami Samwise San Denis San Javier San Michele San Placide San Seguis Sanchez Sanchon Sand Sandbox Prodesse Sanddalgi Sandra Sangatsu Santa Luzia Santa Marta Santa Ryai Sao Tome Saphire Dust Saputza Sardo Satang Satarin Satbyeul Savage Wasteland Sawrey Sawsnake Sayadaw Scape Scaramanga Scaroth Scenic Hills Schism Schrodinger Sciliar Scorze Secret Agent N Secret Garden Sedig Seducer Seduction Shoal Seduction Shore Seeburg Seefeld Seeping Mire Seiska Selby Sense Appeal Sensual Mistery Seokcheon Seonggye Seonhan Serapion Serena Castle Rock Serena Lifu Serena Peace Serena Rum Cay Serena Salt River Serena Thunder Bay Servo Session One Severy Shackles Shaitan Shantos Sharmoon Shax Shedao Shiitake Shikotsu Shimmer Shimpson Shinjung Shipstone Shiradin Shiromani Shiwasu Shouldice Sialimonus Sibernicus Sienso Tala Sifton Silianoz Silver Moon Silverglade Simpkins Sinfro Sinister Fox Sirrakuk Sled Slymington Smoky Socksamillion Sognefjord Soju Solar Solway Somdari Sonagi Sonamu Sooseunhwa Sourmilk Ghyll South Pork South Twilight Southern Star Southhaven Spectre Speedstar Spike Spinach Spinylor Spirit Spirits Of Time Splendid Land Sprawler Spring Island St Lion St Lucia Kysta St Maur St. Martin Star Starship Stealth Mode Steine Gardens Steingrim Stellar Drift Stheno Stillman Stinkhorn Stipe Stone Stone Pike Stream Sub Zero Sugarpine Summerlea Sunell sunset resort Sunshine Sutras Svan Svavarsson Sweet Reach Swinside Syrah Tabaluga South East Taeniatum Taffeta Tamarack TAO Tareezi Tariah Tashina Taupentown Tavana Island Tchailosky Teal Teffelaw Tefnut Telea Temple Atoll Temptation Bay Temptation Paradise Falls Tenera Tenfear Tengchong Tenshi Tepati Bay Terric Tetra Thayer The Cloister THE LAST DREAM6 The Norns The Place The Telis Inlet The Verse Thisbe Three Moons Three Points Threemile THUNDER ROAD Tiara Tiberius TierraSanta Tikehau Island Tilsit Timandra Timba West Time To Play Timescape Tlahuelpuchi Tofte Toggenburg Tohl702AB Tompkins Estate Mayor Tootling Topo Torben Torben Cove Torley Tortola Island Toshimora Toucan Cove Touch of Decadance Tournant Toussaint Toxic Bish Trevally Trevelyan Triggerfish Trollhaugen Tromp Tropical Chill Bay Tsering Tsuchinoko Tupa Turtle Tussock Twelve Fathoms Twilight Moon Tyl Tylwyth Teg Tymel Tyrafoon Tyranz Ultimo Umbridge UmiUsagi Underclaw Ungseokbong Unholy Lands Unquar Upper Fenland Urdenfar Urqhart Utami Utherland Vabole Vainemoren Valarian Valis Valkyrie Vallis Valparaiso Van Tessa Vandalia Vaoetere Varna Veiryn Velda Vendiagrom Venostrate Venrigalli Verdant Woods Veresaev Vicentino Viedma Vilania Village Of Maelstrom Vinyamar Virgo Vitersonus Voice Echo Canyon Volpert Vorlheim Voti Vsevolod Wairbrow Wall Warrumbungles Watchman WatchTower Waters Edge Watershade Waumer WCam Webwinder Webworm Wellfleet Harbor Wengen Wentz West Haven Wexl Wezen Whippendom Whiskers Whispering Wind Whunlow Wichi WideWorld Field WideWorld Sweet Wilcutt Wild Ones Windmill Way Wingo Winter Land Winters Knight Winterspire Winyah Wirreno Wirtz Wissendon WW2 BATTLEFIELD WW2 TRIBUTE Wych Wyoming Wild Territory Wyrldmaker Xcessive Xeeko Xoliantha Yabune Yangpa Yaupon Plain Yayoi Yelloo Yeppeun Yijae Yimmu Yoho Yokoatejima Yora York Ysquierdo Yucca Yui Bon Yuxley Zakarisz Zaltu Zamojski Zanuggia Zap Cannon Zerin Zermatt Zimnago Zion Isle Zoobyville Zorzal Zoxen Zsarmo Zukovsky Zumanus Zuni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucia Nightfire Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Funny how the LeTigre Sandbox 1 - 4 regions aren't on that list, lol. And also funny how this reply is on a different page, heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arwen Serpente Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Maestro, I just filed a JIRA/Bug Report https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-3183 because following yesterday's deploy, all communications from my sim are now failing to make it to email. For instance, any purchases from scripted vendors send a confirmation email - I can see the transactions in my dashboard history, but the email confirmation does not make it to email. Also, im's are not making it to email, nor are any messages regarding inventory/notecard offers. Prior to yesterday's deploy, this type of communication made it to my email without problem. The sim is GMI Tenanye 107/99/22. Edited - Just restarted the sim and it seems that communications are back online. Closed the JIRA/Bug Report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lydia Craig Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 To test the stability of SSB servers I took a short walk this morning. I began in Osbourne Walk and moved North to Predrow which is the nearest Le Tigre server. Crossing over between the adjacent main server to there proved difficult and I crashed, however, log in was relatively easy though there were a few rezzing problems and I had to resort to rebake. Lag was noticeable but moderate, but movement was possible and got better later. I then tried to port out and ports back to Osbourne Walk failed repeatedly or led to crashes, so I walked to the next server and amazingly movement from Predrow to it was easier. Finally I found a second SSB server at Kama Pass and once I had rezzed, which by the way was much easier ported back to Predrow with no problems at all, so apparently Ports between SSB servers may not have the problems experienced with other servers though that bears more testing before we can be certain. I then again tried to port back to Osbourne Walk and angain failed but was able to port to Turnip another Blue Steel sim so am not sure if the port problem is local or more general. Other things I noticed during testing was that porting from non SSB servers seemed to put a heavy burden on the targeted SSB server and often was accompanied by heavy Packet Loss but that porting between SSB servers seemed to be smooth and efficient. Unfortunately I did not find any SSB servers adjacent to each other so am not sure what border crossing are like between them but am optimistic given the ease of the ports. One other thing I have noticed is that since preparations began a few weeks ago for SSB Allocated Memory to most sims has gone up subtantially as has packet loss, though ironically FPS and Ping Sim have for the most part improved. I hope these first impressions are of some use and that they will help smooth the transition to SSB for at this point Stability and a smoothly working grid is vital. By the way I was using the 4.42 Firestorm viewer. Note to Maestro, We are asking our staff and customers to let us know of their impressions of SSA as well, and if you would like I would be happy to share those reports with you as several of our associates have a good deal of techincal experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesByron1 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 any one wishing to see sunshine in operation feel free to pop by http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Liberty%20City/230/161/52 hang out and get the feel for and test out your viewers smile .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfBaginski Bearsfoot Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Sim crossing certainly seems worse at the meoment. although I'm seeing signs of a poor interenet connection, these problems my not be down to anything LL can do anything about. I cannot honestly point a finger at the new baking system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qie Niangao Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Lydia Craig wrote: Unfortunately I did not find any SSB servers adjacent to each other so am not sure what border crossing are like between them but am optimistic given the ease of the ports. Tussock and Lanestris are adjacent LeTigre sims. I'm seeing (sample size = 1) that crossings between them are practically seamless, but crossings back and forth with non-LeTigre sims are as variable as always. (In my experience, however, "practically seamless" is also within that variance, so there may or may not be improvement.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Horten Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 So far, ssa seems to be completely broken, avatars either stay gray or blurry, some don't show up at all ( I only see their name tag) , I even saw clouded avatars for 10+ minutes, I get 95+% fps drops and even system freezes on le tigre regions. Tested with various viewers; SecondLife V 3.6.1, Kokua V 3.6.1, Firestorm 4.4.2, Singularity 1.8.0, all act the same, and even when I tp back from a le tigre region to a release channel region, it takes more than a minute for my fps to recover from 6 to 90. J. (Edited typos like wron Firestorm version number) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciaran Laval Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 I don't know about the other viewers but Firestorm needs to be 4.4.2 to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenMichelle Lane Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Vania, [she recommended this "crowed" LeTigre InfoHub as a text location] Oh thank you for that recommendation for the LeTigre InfoHub. I did a comparison of InfoHub arrivals in a few non-LeTigre Regions and this InfoHub. Here are my observations. http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Nelsonia/131/171/22 Second Life 3.6.1 (278007) Jun 27 2013 12:41:07 (Second Life Release) Release Notes You are at 464,255.0, 307,371.0, 21.6 in Nelsonia located at sim10366.agni.lindenlab.com (216.82.51.16:13021) Second Life RC LeTigre 13.07.03.278295 Error fetching server release notes URL. On arrival, grey avatar placeholders showed immediately and about 1/2 of the 17 avatars there colored up within 10 or so seconds for me, The reminder colored up within 25 seconds. Watching new arrivals was interesting, the grey avatar place holder showed up immediately and prim and texturing rendering occurred usually with the skin & avatar layer clothing rendered 1st then in no particular order, attached prims, sculpties & mesh afterwards. Pretty much without fail new arrivals were rendered within 20 seconds which is a huge increase in performance from my usual InfoHub POV experience. As expected, my Client Performance indicator started to flash yellow and red as the number of avatars rose to over 25 during my stay here. As a comparison I visited the Murray InfoHub: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Murray/125/33/30 Second Life 3.6.1 (278007) Jun 27 2013 12:41:07 (Second Life Release) Release Notes You are at 255,613.0, 256,033.0, 30.5 in Murray located at sim10220.agni.lindenlab.com (216.82.49.142:13007) Second Life RC BlueSteel 13.07.03.278277 Error fetching server release notes URL. With only 3 avatars here it took...... 60+ seconds for the 2 avatars to fully render for me. The grey avatar place holders did appear immediately which is a nice improvement in the pre SAA turned-up server/viewer code. I also visited the Boardroom InfoHub: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Boardroom/119/93/23 Second Life 3.6.1 (278007) Jun 27 2013 12:41:07 (Second Life Release) Release Notes You are at 262,775.0, 250,461.0, 22.7 in Boardroom located at sim10041.agni.lindenlab.com (216.82.48.51:13005) Second Life RC Magnum 13.07.08.278357 Error fetching server release notes URL. With only 11 avatars here it took...... 30+ seconds for the 6 avatars located close to me to fully render for me. The grey avatar place holders did appear immediately. This region is in a different RC Project so these performance numbers may be affected by that project code base. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bottom Line is I'm definitely seeing improvement in avatar rendering speeds. P.S. - On a lark I also visited the Linden Lab Iris Region: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Iris/202/122/30 Second Life 3.6.1 (278007) Jun 27 2013 12:41:07 (Second Life Release) Release Notes You are at 257,481.0, 261,497.0, 29.6 in Iris located at sim10311.agni.lindenlab.com (216.82.50.33:13009) Second Life Server 13.06.21.277682 Release Notes 11 avatars were on this InfoHub. This is a region with a very old code base on it and Ta Da - I experienced lots of white cloud avatars for over 3 minutes. After that time, only about 1/2 of the avatars rendered for me so I ended my visit there. As you can see I'm using the current SL Viewer viewer so to be sure the server code base is very important in supporting the instant display of the grey avatar place-holder avatars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Horten Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Interresting that you even see improvements on regions that are not even ssa enabled. J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayesha Askham Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 I'll just add my two penn'orth here. I'm using Firestorm 4.4.2, I have a VM cable connection, an Intel i7 processor and an nVidia GTX580GPU. So far on Wirtz and Bulgogi sims, both LeTigre RC channel, so SSA enabled, I see avatar rezzing different, maybe slightly faster, certainly clothing changes faster, with none of the old "double rez" baking. Now, on the first TP to Wirtz, it did seem that my viewer (cache?) took a while (a few seconds) to adapt to the new baking code, and while textures are nice and sharp I do see an FPS hit of about 35% from a non-SSA Main Server sim. It also takes a while (15-20sec) for the viewer to re-adapt to non-SSA code once I TP back to a Main Server sim, but I see no lasting issues. So my conclusion, based purely on my own experience is that SSA is working, maybe not quite as well as LL hoped, but I'd say it is pretty close. :smileyhappy: There is one major disappointment and that is that the Interest List issue of invisible, ie non rendered prims is still with us. Andrew when is this issue going to be solved, I understood that the latest viewer code had it licked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenMichelle Lane Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Yes it is interesting that the ready for SSA deployment Main Channel regions already are receiving a small performance boost.. I'm attributing that performance increase to the preparatory updates to the server code that have been going on for the past several weeks. Clearly there is some great underlying updates in that server code as demonstrated by my visit to Iris which seemed to have some very old Server Code operating on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo Yardley Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I went to Nelsiona and observed people arriving. At first I didn't spot much of an improvement, but then I started counting to see how long it took for someone to fully rez, most avatars rezzed fully between 5 and 15 seconds, even if a bunch of them arrived at the same time. And no fuzzy textures anywhere. When i returned to 1920s Berlin, one single avatar took more then 40 seconds to rez. So yes, I did notice an improvement and can't wait for it to come to 1920s Berlin. Any idea when that may be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theresa Tennyson Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Jean Horten wrote: So far, ssa seems to be completely broken, avatars either stay gray or blurry, some don't show up at all ( I only see their name tag) , I even saw clouded avatars for 10+ minutes, I get 95+% fps drops and even system freezes on le tigre regions. Tested with various viewers; SecondLife V 3.6.1, Kokua V 3.6.1, Firestorm 4.4.2, Singularity 1.8.0, all act the same, and even when I tp back from a le tigre region to a release channel region, it takes more than a minute for my fps to recover from 6 to 90. J. (Edited typos like wron Firestorm version number) It sounds like your connection/modem don't handle SL's HTTP system well. I've recently moved from somewhere with a decent internet connection to one with a terrible one and the connection/modem make a huge difference. Do you have HTTP textures on or off, and what's your "MeshMaxConcurrentRequests" at? You need HTTP textures on for decent performance with SSA, and if you've got your mesh requests turned up you're actually shooting yourself in the foot because the servers are sending too much information at once and the requests have to keep retrying. I used to have issues of the prolonged drop in framerate at mesh-heavy areas on my bad connection but it went away by turning down my mesh requests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean Horten Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Theresa Tennyson wrote: It sounds like your connection/modem don't handle SL's HTTP system well. I've recently moved from somewhere with a decent internet connection to one with a terrible one and the connection/modem make a huge difference. Do you have HTTP textures on or off, and what's your "MeshMaxConcurrentRequests" at? You need HTTP textures on for decent performance with SSA, and if you've got your mesh requests turned up you're actually shooting yourself in the foot because the servers are sending too much information at once and the requests have to keep retrying. I used to have issues of the prolonged drop in framerate at mesh-heavy areas on my bad connection but it went away by turning down my mesh requests. When I turn http textures on on ssa enabled regions , I get fps below 1 and sometimes my whole viewer or even the whole system freezes, so I cannot use http get textures at all on ssa enabled regions My fps on ssa enabled regions with http textures turned off I get 4-7 fps. This does not occur on non ssa enabled regions with HTTP get textures turned on, seems the ssa servers send out too many textures too fast with HTTP textures enabled. My connections vary, one is 32 Gbit/S cable on a Cisco EPC 3212 cable router and it has been working very well for me so far for quite a while and it still does on non ssa regions. The other connection is 16 mBit/S ADSL using a Fritz Box 7170 router and it gives me the same issues as my cable connection on ssa enabled regions. Seems I have to say good bye to SL soon due to 'progress' that my modern and rather powerful hardware cannot handle. J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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