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Hello, I was debating the business in SL and where it currently stands and what I wanted to do going forward, and wanted to see if there is a niche.  Therefore, I wanted to get people's opinions and created some questions... please answer seriously!  Discussions are fine, I am just wondering fi there is a place in SL for this.

Oh, and this alt was just created to post this anonymously, I have been a resident for over five years.  I just am unsure if there is a place for this type of business in SL anymore.

Thank you in advance to anyone that answers!  I may add more questions as this goes on. 

 

 

Do you pay for sex in SL?

 

If not, would you?  What, if anything, would change your mind?

 

How much would you pay for sex in SL?  Would you ever pay a more premium rate for intelligent or witty girls who see you as a person, and are more interested in building a small but stable clientele?

 

When paying, do you prefer it with someone you don’t know, or someone that you have built a ‘relationship’ with (in other words, someone who talks and flirts with you in IMs, may go to events with you , etc)?  Would you pay more for this type of service? 

 

An extension of the above – would you pay extra for such a girl , who would also would wear outfits/roleplay scenarios that you requested?

 

Would you be interested in going to lecture/music/discussion events hosted by various women, knowing you could purchase those same women?   Would this add a level of spice?

 

Do you prefer a refined quiet oasis/refuge to meet and spend time with those girls, or a club or sex house atmosphere?

 

Do you feel there is a place in SL for the elegant high class courtesan, and if so, how would they be found by their potential clientele?  How much would you pay for this type of woman?

 

 

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Katarczyna wrote:

Hello, I was debating the business in SL and where it currently stands and what I wanted to do going forward, and wanted to see if there is a niche.  Therefore, I wanted to get people's opinions and created some questions... please answer seriously!  Discussions are fine, I am just wondering fi there is a place in SL for this.

Oh, and this alt was just created to post this anonymously, I have been a resident for over five years.  I just am unsure if there is a place for this type of business in SL anymore.

Thank you in advance to anyone that answers!  I may add more questions as this goes on. 

 

 

Do you pay for sex in SL?
No

 

If not, would you? 
No 
What, if anything, would change your mind?
Nothing. I don't pay for sex in SL.

 

How much would you pay for sex in SL?  Would you ever pay a more premium rate for intelligent or witty girls who see you as a person, and are more interested in building a small but stable clientele?

 
I wouldn't. I would hope anyone i was with was witty and intellegent.

When paying, do you prefer it with someone you don’t know, or someone that you have built a ‘relationship’ with (in other words, someone who talks and flirts with you in IMs, may go to events with you , etc)?  Would you pay more for this type of service? 

 

An extension of the above – would you pay extra for such a girl , who would also would wear outfits/roleplay scenarios that you requested?

 
As a Dom, I would hope any sub i was with wouldn't be adverse to wearing outfits.

Would you be interested in going to lecture/music/discussion events hosted by various women, knowing you could purchase those same women?   Would this add a level of spice?

 
Purchase... That is an interesting word. You can not actually purchase anyone in SL.

Do you prefer a refined quiet oasis/refuge to meet and spend time with those girls, or a club or sex house atmosphere?

 
That all depends on my mood.

Do you feel there is a place in SL for the elegant high class courtesan, and if so, how would they be found by their potential clientele?  How much would you pay for this type of woman?

 
I'm sure there are, but I wouldn't be paying them. One would assume they would be found using search.

 

 

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Katarczyna wrote:. 

 

 Do you pay for sex in SL? 
NO

 

If not, would you?   
NO
 

 

What, if anything, would change your mind? 
NOTHING

 

How much would you pay for sex in SL? 
NOTHING

Would you ever pay a more premium rate for intelligent or witty girls who see you as a person, and are more interested in building a small but stable clientele?  
YOU ARE ASKING ME TO BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD SEE ME AS SOMETHING MORE THAN A MARK.  I DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS WITH DELUSIONS.

 

When paying, do you prefer it with someone you don’t know, or someone that you have built a ‘relationship’ with (in other words, someone who talks and flirts with you in IMs, may go to events with you , etc)?  Would you pay more for this type of service?  
N/A  (not applicable)

 

An extension of the above – would you pay extra for such a girl , who would also would wear outfits/roleplay scenarios that you requested?   
N/A

 

Would you be interested in going to lecture/music/discussion events hosted by various women, knowing you could purchase those same women?   Would this add a level of spice?  
N/A

 

Do you prefer a refined quiet oasis/refuge to meet and spend time with those girls, or a club or sex house atmosphere?   
N/A

 

Do you feel there is a place in SL for the elegant high class courtesan,  
I KNOW WHERE THERE ARE SOME 16sqm PARCELS FOR SALE.  I THINK THAT'S LARGE ENOUGH FOR A GIRL TO LAY DOWN IN.  
and if so, how would they be found by their potential clientele?   
I'VE NO IDEA  
How much would you pay for this type of woman?   
I'M JUST A POOR MARTIAN

 

 

But you have given me an idea for a business and a way to earn my way out of this World:

"Perrie Juran:  Martian Gigolo"  Once you go green you never go back!

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no to the first, and everything else is the logical result of that (hint, no).

Besides, if I wanted to take someone somewhere private I have my own very private place :)

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Do you pay for sex in SL?
Nope

If not, would you?  What, if anything, would change your mind?
Nope, Unless you worked in Subway and I was paying for a sandwich after it happened.

How much would you pay for sex in SL?  Would you ever pay a more premium rate for intelligent or witty girls who see you as a person, and are more interested in building a small but stable clientele?
Stable Clientele? You mean be friends with only people who pay for sex in Second Life... What an interesting thought.

When paying, do you prefer it with someone you don’t know, or someone that you have built a ‘relationship’ with (in other words, someone who talks and flirts with you in IMs, may go to events with you , etc)?  Would you pay more for this type of service? 
So you're asking if we would prefer a straight up prosititute or an escort service? My answer would be neither. If you are friends with someone would you really want to continue a friendship if they said "Let's bonk... but first open your wallet."

An extension of the above – would you pay extra for such a girl , who would also would wear outfits/roleplay scenarios that you requested?
Would she not already be wearing a Subway outfit?

Would you be interested in going to lecture/music/discussion events hosted by various women, knowing you could purchase those same women?   Would this add a level of spice?
Do you not think this sets women back by showing they can host events but then be bought for sex?

Do you prefer a refined quiet oasis/refuge to meet and spend time with those girls, or a club or sex house atmosphere?
Again... Subway restaurant.

Do you feel there is a place in SL for the elegant high class courtesan, and if so, how would they be found by their potential clientele?  How much would you pay for this type of woman?
With sandwiches I guess.

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Firstly, I'm gay, Secondly not a big fan of SL sex. I just  answered this survey because I have very strong opions about sandwiches. 
Hope this helps x

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Thank you for all the replies so far.  I am not completely surprised, though some people must pay in SL with all the escorts I see!! 

There are a couple of comments made that I disagree with, but that is simply a matter of opinion, and mine is no better than yours.  And I am trying to find out what you all think!

 

Anyway, thanks to those that have responded - and I'd encourage anyone else to seriously respond as well.  It is all appreciated.

 

Kat

 

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Oh, and this alt was just created to post this anonymously, I have been a resident for over five years.  I just am unsure if there is a place for this type of business in SL anymore.

Since that has ALWAYS been one of my criteria for answering questions, I will respond. Although, my answers will probably be the same as most others

 

 

 

Do you pay for sex in SL?

I do not. I had an ALT that was an escort and it appears that a lot of people don't pay for sex in SL.

 

If not, would you?  What, if anything, would change your mind?

Unfortunately, there is so much free sex inworld that not much would convince me to change my mind. I, like others, have slaves so I don't know if I would ever change my mind.

 

How much would you pay for sex in SL?  Would you ever pay a more premium rate for intelligent or witty girls who see you as a person, and are more interested in building a small but stable clientele?

A client likes a witty and intelligent girl..unless it's a sim where they're supposed to be dumb as a post. I don't think that would make me pay more...if I were inclined to pay at all.

 

When paying, do you prefer it with someone you don’t know, or someone that you have built a ‘relationship’ with (in other words, someone who talks and flirts with you in IMs, may go to events with you , etc)?  Would you pay more for this type of service? 

Again, I don't usually pay for sex inworld.

 

An extension of the above – would you pay extra for such a girl , who would also would wear outfits/roleplay scenarios that you requested?

I think others might pay more for girls who would be interested in different types of RP. I would assume that the girls would charge more for that service...having to find the right clothes and such costs $L

 

Would you be interested in going to lecture/music/discussion events hosted by various women, knowing you could purchase those same women?   Would this add a level of spice?

No

 

Do you prefer a refined quiet oasis/refuge to meet and spend time with those girls, or a club or sex house atmosphere
?

If it were me, I like a quiet oasis...I think meeting girls at clubs are trashy....the girls might be trashy as well.

 

Do you feel there is a place in SL for the elegant high class courtesan, and if so, how would they be found by their potential clientele?  How much would you pay for this type of woman?

There probably is...most guys find their girls at strip/dance clubs, so this type of girl probably doesn't really exist..even though there are girls who say they're courtesans and not strippers. If you meet them at a club, they're prostitutes...period.

How would you find them..I suppose you could buy ad boards or advertise through the forums. Maybe there's a place on the MP for that?? I don't know.

The price of girls that you find at clubs are ridiculous (just for fun, I got a few notecards). I don't think you could charge more than what these girls do no matter what you offer. The market just won't allow it.

Either way, good luck in your enterprise. I like the idea, but I don't think it's feasible.

 

 

 

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Katarczyna wrote:

Do you pay for sex in SL?

No. It's available for nothing, which is a fair price. Intimacy is a different animal.

If not, would you?

No.

What, if anything, would change your mind?

A brain injury?

How much would you pay for sex in SL?

Before the injury? Nothing. After? I don't know.

Would you ever pay a more premium rate for intelligent or witty girls who see you as a person, and are more interested in building a small but stable clientele?

Hypothetically, I think I'd pay less for intelligence and/or wit, just to encourage it to be put to better use.

When paying, do you prefer it with someone you don’t know, or someone that you have built a ‘relationship’ with (in other words, someone who talks and flirts with you in IMs, may go to events with you , etc)?

It would have to be a stranger. I wouldn't want to think less of a friend.

Would you pay more for this type of service?

Thinking less of a friend isn't something I'd pay for.

An extension of the above – would you pay extra for such a girl , who would also would wear outfits/roleplay scenarios that you requested?

I'd pay more for a girl or guy who'd be willing to discuss science, philosopy, religion, art and politics. Come to think of it, I can get that for free as well.

Would you be interested in going to lecture/music/discussion events hosted by various women, knowing you could purchase those same women?   Would this add a level of spice?

Knowing I can purchase a thing has never added a level of spice. It's the things I can't buy that intrigue me.

Do you prefer a refined quiet oasis/refuge to meet and spend time with those girls, or a club or sex house atmosphere?

It has been my goal to be a quiet oasis/refuge. Though I've also tried to create a sex house atmosphere, the laughing always broke the mood, so I've given up.

Do you feel there is a place in SL for the elegant high class courtesan, and if so, how would they be found by their potential clientele?

I've always hoped I'd be seen as high class and that there would be a place in SL for me, though I'd probably never go there. How would people find me? So far, it's been by reading my profile. I can't tell you how many people have IM'ed me to share their love of Richard Feynman.

How much would you pay for this type of woman?

It's so hard to say, isn't it? Depending on the "client" I imagine I'd be somewhere between priceless and worthless.

Now, given my responses, you'd think I'm entirely against prostitution. I'm not sure I am. The economics here are different than in RL where a young woman might extricate herself from poverty by selling her body. I can wish we had better options for success and generally we do, but the oldest profession isn't that old for no reason. Unfortunately, prostitution rarely works out well for the woman over the long haul and has been a means of exploitation for as long as it's been a profession.

ETA: Prostitution isn't the sole purvue of women. Though the statistics lean heavily in that direction, my wish for better economic alternatives applies to everyone.

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Katarczyna wrote:

Thank you for all the replies so far.  I am not completely surprised, though some people must pay in SL with all the escorts I see!! 

There are a couple of comments made that I disagree with, but that is simply a matter of opinion, and mine is no better than yours.  And I am trying to find out what you all think!

 

Anyway, thanks to those that have responded - and I'd encourage anyone else to seriously respond as well.  It is all appreciated.

 

Kat

 

You really wonder about that? Seriously?

I can easily tell you why you don't get much insight in those who pay for escorts:

Your topic is highly critical. Do you think anybody in real life would easily admit in public that they like to pay a hooker for sex? I don't think so. Same applies to this forum, especially because a lot people here express straight with their answer what they think of paying for sex in general. As long as the survey isn't going to be anonym, nobody is going to answer the questions with yes.

Another reason: The group of persons you are looking for aren't active members of this forum. You will only meet them inworld at the right kind of places. (If you are really interested in this survey).

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Do you pay for sex in SL? No

If not, would you? No  What, if anything, would change your mind? A sudden miraculous disappearance of people willing to do it for free

How much would you pay for sex in SL?  L$0 Would you ever pay a more premium rate for intelligent or witty girls who see you as a person, and are more interested in building a small but stable clientele? No. If they're doing it for money they're not seeing me as a person, but as a commodity. 

When paying, do you prefer it with someone you don’t know, or someone that you have built a ‘relationship’ with (in other words, someone who talks and flirts with you in IMs, may go to events with you , etc)?  Would you pay more for this type of service?  not applicable - I don't need to pay to get this, it's all easily available for free.

An extension of the above – would you pay extra for such a girl , who would also would wear outfits/roleplay scenarios that you requested? No

Would you be interested in going to lecture/music/discussion events hosted by various women, knowing you could purchase those same women?   Would this add a level of spice? No

Do you prefer a refined quiet oasis/refuge to meet and spend time with those girls, or a club or sex house atmosphere?  I prefer a picturesque place like a tropical island for sex, I don't mind if other people are there.

Do you feel there is a place in SL for the elegant high class courtesan, and if so, how would they be found by their potential clientele?  How much would you pay for this type of woman?  I think there's a place in a roleplay situation (like maybe some of the historical roleplay communities). Of course then it would have to be free, because it would be part of the story. I will never understand why anyone pays anything for sex in SL when so many people are willing to do it for free.

 

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Syo Emerald wrote:


 

You really wonder about that? Seriously?

I can easily tell you why you don't get much insight in those who pay for escorts:

Your topic is highly critical. Do you think anybody in real life would easily admit in public that they like to pay a hooker for sex? I don't think so. Same applies to this forum, especially because a lot people here express straight with their answer what they think of paying for sex in general. As long as the survey isn't going to be anonym, nobody is going to answer the questions with yes.

Another reason: The group of persons you are looking for aren't active members of this forum. You will only meet them inworld at the right kind of places. (If you are really interested in this survey).

I thought all of this when I saw the post also.

I did answer honestly, paid for sex does not interest me.

Because the subject of sex is highly moderated in this Forum very few who are active in Adult activities post here and those who are active couldn't openly discuss their proclivities anyway.  That is one of the reasons I have never explained Martian mating rituals here.  It would never survive moderation.

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Do you pay for sex in SL?

 I don't even have sex in SL, but if I did, I wouldn't pay.

If not, would you?  What, if anything, would change your mind?

 I might if I was in a distance relationship with someone and we wanted a way to cyber, but even then I'd rather just cam and actually look at my partner rather than a 3D avatar.

How much would you pay for sex in SL?  Would you ever pay a more premium rate for intelligent or witty girls who see you as a person, and are more interested in building a small but stable clientele?

 Nothing, I wouldn't pay at all, and if I wanted a partner that sees me as a person rather than a client I'd just continue on the path of finding my partners in real life. If I wanted an SL partner I wouldn't find escorts, I would go socialize and join some lonely hearts groups, maybe look for clubs with keywords like 'singles' in their name if I was particularly desperate. Otherwise, I'd probably try to look in my existing social circle.

When paying, do you prefer it with someone you don’t know, or someone that you have built a ‘relationship’ with (in other words, someone who talks and flirts with you in IMs, may go to events with you , etc)?  Would you pay more for this type of service? 

 If I was to pay for sex? I'd probably prefer it anonymous.

An extension of the above – would you pay extra for such a girl , who would also would wear outfits/roleplay scenarios that you requested?

 Not unless it was something pretty extreme.

Would you be interested in going to lecture/music/discussion events hosted by various women, knowing you could purchase those same women?   Would this add a level of spice?

 I'd go just for the heck of it, but I wouldn't "purchase" the woman.

Do you prefer a refined quiet oasis/refuge to meet and spend time with those girls, or a club or sex house atmosphere?

 Personally I prefer privacy if I'm doing anything one-on-one or in a small group. Same would go for pixel sex.

Do you feel there is a place in SL for the elegant high class courtesan, and if so, how would they be found by their potential clientele?  How much would you pay for this type of woman?

 This is largely the same question over and over again, but as long as there's someone silly enough to actually pay for sex around, there's a place for the people willing to take advantage. In fact they've really stepped out of their place by bombarding me with ads for their brothels before I even log in, IMHO. The word 'courtesan' evokes imagery of castles and medieval RP sims, though, and honestly I don't think of actually paying for sex when I think of people roleplaying courtesans in those sims.

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Syo Emerald wrote:


Katarczyna wrote:

Thank you for all the replies so far.  I am not completely surprised, though some people must pay in SL with all the escorts I see!! 

There are a couple of comments made that I disagree with, but that is simply a matter of opinion, and mine is no better than yours.  And I am trying to find out what you all think!

 

Anyway, thanks to those that have responded - and I'd encourage anyone else to seriously respond as well.  It is all appreciated.

 

Kat

 

You really wonder about that? Seriously?

I can easily tell you why you don't get much insight in those who pay for escorts:

Your topic is highly critical. Do you think anybody in real life would easily admit in public that they like to pay a hooker for sex? I don't think so. Same applies to this forum, especially because a lot people here express straight with their answer what they think of paying for sex in general. As long as the survey isn't going to be anonym, nobody is going to answer the questions with yes.

Another reason: The group of persons you are looking for aren't active members of this forum. You will only meet them inworld at the right kind of places. (If you are really interested in this survey).

Spot on as usual Syo. No one or hardly any one will admit this on the forums.

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Thanks Syo, I didn't think of that.  I was just trying  to gather information and erroneously thought that the Adult forums were a little more 'open.' 

I had no intention to be critical so, if I came across that way, I apologize.

And yes, I am interested in this survey, not sure why you would think I was not.    I was trying to be pretty straight forward and non-snarky.

Anyway, thanks again, I will try to find out info in better ways!

 

Kat

 

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Katarczyna wrote:

Thanks Syo, I didn't think of that.  I was just trying  to gather information and erroneously thought that the Adult forums were a little more 'open.' 

I had no intention to be critical so, if I came across that way, I apologize.

And yes, I am interested in this survey, not sure why you would think I was not.    I was trying to be pretty straight forward and non-snarky.

Anyway, thanks again, I will try to find out info in better ways!

 

Kat

 

I didn't say you did anything wrong, but that the topic is kind of sensitive for various reasons. I'm sure you have some interest in this topic, but active research always requires a lot more energy than writing in one forum and thats why I made the side note this way.

All forum parts (including the adult forum) here are pretty restricted. Everything has to stay G rated. I would suggest to simply go inworld, search for escort sims and places and ask if you are allowed to ask your questions to the people around.

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Katarczyna wrote:

Thank you for all the replies so far.  I am not completely surprised, though some people
must
pay in SL with all the escorts I see!! 


That is a flawed argument. What tells you that any of those self-titled escorts are getting paid?

Just because someone sets up a stand outside my house and sells rocks, doesn't mean they must be selling well.

There are still sexual paraphilias where people can't easily find a partner, so if you can cater to very deviant fantasies, you might still have business. That goes beyond simple mainstream things within BDSM.  For all the rest? There's more girls around than guys. The girls also spend more money.

 

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I think that intelligent and witty girls do this on their own and don't need a "boss" to take a percentage of their earnings.

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Lexbot Sinister wrote:


Katarczyna wrote:

Thank you for all the replies so far.  I am not completely surprised, though some people
must
pay in SL with all the escorts I see!! 


That is a flawed argument. What tells you that any of those self-titled escorts are getting paid?

Just because someone sets up a stand outside my house and sells rocks, doesn't mean they must be selling well.

There are still sexual paraphilias where people can't easily find a partner, so if you can cater to very deviant fantasies, you might still have business. That goes beyond simple mainstream things within BDSM.  For all the rest? There's more girls around than guys. The girls also spend more money.

 

Please define "mainstream BD/SM".. I know plenty of people that are sexual paraphiliacs. They seem to find partners without paying for it.

I would also like to see your survey information that shows a gender breakdown of SL. Of the 90 or so women on my friends list i know for a fact i spend more than 90% of them. You used a flawed argument to reply to a flawed argument.

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The girls get paid.

Ever seen the usual customer-guy of an escort girl? If you have, you know why they can't get laid for free. Also you have a huge group with odd kinks, who struggle to find someone for free and you have those too lazy to search and those who want quality emoting and not to forget those that like cam/voice.

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Yes, of course there are girls that get paid and not only just for kinks.  To add to what Syo said, there are also normal guys that like the FWB, no strings attached, type of relationship.

This has been interesting. 

 

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