Textures constantly going blurred

[Whirly Fizzle]

37 minutes ago, DaWolfie Winterwolf said:

In Answer to Blurryness : Use "Hi-Res" option, if your computer is powerful enough, mine isn't and its still alive.

Alternative Eco Friendly Fix ( : Clear Cache

Is it against the forum guidelines to slap someone with a wet fish? 

[Cindy Evanier]

36 minutes ago, Whirly Fizzle said:

Is it against the forum guidelines to slap someone with a wet fish? 

The wetter the better

[DaWolfie Winterwolf]

I'm not following your jokes "Girls", does it have anything to do with having balls attached in a PG Region (?)

You follow (?)

Keep this topic on the subject instead of deviating somewhere else, Thanks.

[Cindy Evanier]

18 minutes ago, DaWolfie Winterwolf said:

I'm not following your jokes "Girls", does it have anything to do with having balls attached in a PG Region (?)

You follow (?)

Keep this topic on the subject instead of deviating somewhere else, Thanks.

I dont follow but you revived a necro post to give out of date advice.  These days clearing cache is not recommended. But I'm blonde someone more technical will explain though

Edited November 9, 2017 by Cindy Evanier

[DaWolfie Winterwolf]

Why not (?) 

Added : Also, If the problem persist and there is a topic already there, then there is no need to create another one. Don't you think (?)

This is indeed an old post, but the problem is still around, I never had to use the option "Hi-Res" before, I just started to have to for no reason and seems to be the only way to avoid getting blurry textures.

Edited November 9, 2017 by DaWolfie Winterwolf

[LittleMe Jewell]

[LittleMe Jewell]

51 minutes ago, DaWolfie Winterwolf said:

Why not (?) 

Because most problems are not really a cache issue, but a graphics settings issue or a pc ability issue or ..... a thousand other things.

[DaWolfie Winterwolf]

Answer me this :

Are you a person that turns off the computer everytime you don't use it or you keep it running 24/7/365 (?)

 

 

[Jerilynn Lemon]

I tried Pussycats suggestions and saw an immediate improvement to my computer performance with Second Life. Fair to explain, my machine was manufactured in 2013, but is still hanging in there, so to my end, the info she suggested was/is still applicable, Sometimes old threads do come in handy.

 

 

 

[LittleMe Jewell]

1 hour ago, DaWolfie Winterwolf said:

Answer me this :

Are you a person that turns off the computer everytime you don't use it or you keep it running 24/7/365 (?)

 

 

If you are asking me, I never turn my computer off unless I leave home for multiple days or I'm rebooting.  I do put the monitor and computer to sleep at night and during the workday.

[JessiSweeney]

4 hours ago, DaWolfie Winterwolf said:

I'm not following your jokes "Girls", does it have anything to do with having balls attached in a PG Region (?)

You follow (?)

Keep this topic on the subject instead of deviating somewhere else, Thanks.

 

[DaWolfie Winterwolf]

It should not be the way to fix it but if you girls thinks its the only solution be happy.

Since I noticed a bad temper on all the females showing up in here to reply to me, except for one this is a little song for all of you who got their period late

Enjoy

[DaWolfie Winterwolf]

5 hours ago, Jerilynn Lemon said:

I tried Pussycats suggestions and saw an immediate improvement to my computer performance with Second Life. Fair to explain, my machine was manufactured in 2013, but is still hanging in there, so to my end, the info she suggested was/is still applicable, Sometimes old threads do come in handy.

 

 

 

Yes but still that should not be the answer, Linden made one specific change that broke everything again, even if the post is from 2013 and we are in 2017 Im still aiming into the problem being there, its not just enabling an option that only appear in the developers menu, but as you can see, some people can't relate on finding any other fix and they get upset when someone shows up trying to find another way to fix things.

[DaWolfie Winterwolf]

5 hours ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

If you are asking me, I never turn my computer off unless I leave home for multiple days or I'm rebooting.  I do put the monitor and computer to sleep at night and during the workday.

That explains it all.

[Derek Torvalar]

6 hours ago, DaWolfie Winterwolf said:

It should not be the way to fix it but if you girls thinks its the only solution be happy.

Since I noticed a bad temper on all the females showing up in here to reply to me, except for one this is a little song for all of you who got their period late

Enjoy

Whatta maroon.

[LittleMe Jewell]

9 hours ago, DaWolfie Winterwolf said:

It should not be the way to fix it but if you girls thinks its the only solution be happy.

Since I noticed a bad temper on all the females showing up in here to reply to me, except for one this is a little song for all of you who got their period late

Enjoy

So if a female doesn't agree with you, she must be having menstrual issues?

I'd suggest maybe you are having some sort of male ego issues.......... or maybe you are just a d!ckhead.

Edited November 10, 2017 by LittleMe Jewell

[Love Zhaoying]

3 hours ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

or maybe you are just a d!ckhead.

Darn it! I came to this thread hoping to see a picture of a d!ck.

[LittleMe Jewell]

56 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

Darn it! I came to this thread hoping to see a picture of a d!ck.

Will some hair do?  (It is hard to find photos in this category that can be posted here)

[Cindy Evanier]

12 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

Will some hair do?  (It is hard to find photos in this category that can be posted here)

Is that Justin Beiber?

 

[Love Zhaoying]

1 hour ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

Will some hair do?  (It is hard to find photos in this category that can be posted here)

That's a very knotty picture!

[Jerilynn Lemon]

11 hours ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

Will some hair do?  (It is hard to find photos in this category that can be posted here)

Ever have a comment you just have to make, damn the consequences? I have one. But since I have had one (1) comment here deleted by the mods (rightfully so too. I went off my meds), it's best I just think of this pic and chuckle.

[SoniaVileva]

On 11/9/2017 at 3:58 PM, DaWolfie Winterwolf said:

Why not (?) 

Added : Also, If the problem persist and there is a topic already there, then there is no need to create another one. Don't you think (?)

This is indeed an old post, but the problem is still around, I never had to use the option "Hi-Res" before, I just started to have to for no reason and seems to be the only way to avoid getting blurry textures.

I was wondering about this for a long time, and Hi-Res does work.  Thank you so much.

I also support the idea of sticking with the topic and not to divert to something else.  It makes it much difficult and slower for people to find answer.

Finally, the warning message about Hi-Res is unhelpful.  I suggest developers to retest and quantify again under what limits it will crash.

Right now, the message is superficial and unsophisticated.

[panterapolnocy]

9 hours ago, SoniaVileva said:

Finally, the warning message about Hi-Res is unhelpful.  I suggest developers to retest and quantify again under what limits it will crash.

Right now, the message is superficial and unsophisticated.

Please see @NiranV Dean's answer in this post: 

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If all of that is fine and your textures are still not loading for some reason you can force them with the debug setting "TextureLoadFullRes", BUT i highly recommend not doing this unless absolutely necessary. It will force all textures to load at their max resolution and you'll most likely end up filling 8-12GB of texture memory easily. If your GPU doesn't have that much (if it has you shouldn't be seeing these low textures in the first place) your framerate will slowly drop down to a crawling as your GPU gets more and more busy with reallocating textures over and over.

 

Edited April 28, 2021 by panterapolnocy

[NiranV Dean]

11 hours ago, SoniaVileva said:

Finally, the warning message about Hi-Res is unhelpful.  I suggest developers to retest and quantify again under what limits it will crash.

Right now, the message is superficial and unsophisticated.

The warning message (if you are talking about Whirly's warning) is still absolutely up to date and says everything that needs to be said.

Using Full Res Textures will force all textures to download at their maximum resolution, nowadays this (as explained in the post Pantera linked) means we are commonly looking at up to 8GB if not more texture memory, this texture memory is ALSO doubled not only into our GPU memory (VRAM) but also our system memory (RAM), this means the Viewer will go up all the way to eating 8-12GB RAM (or more) which in most cases for SL users is a potential crash, 16GB or less is pretty common to have in SL and using 12GB alone just for SL (plus some extra that is already reserved) and windows + all apps you have started, essentially means you WILL crash or at the very least be very close to it. Even if you don't crash you will see drastically reduced performance to the point that SL will become absolutely unusable (unless you are already used to running at single digit framerates).

And in short this means and i'm paraphrasing what Whirly said: Forcing full res textures will crash you or at the very least kill your performance (if you had any).

And as i mentioned in Pantera's linked post, if you aren't seeing your framerate dip you didn't need full res in the first place (because your GPU isn't full and could have loaded everything anyway, which implies the issue is elsewhere). So by all means the warning is warranted, it's just kept simple because SL users tend to not understand any kind of explanation anyway, trying to explain the issue in detail would be futile.

Edited April 28, 2021 by NiranV Dean

[SoniaVileva]

1 hour ago, NiranV Dean said:

The warning message (if you are talking about Whirly's warning) is still absolutely up to date and says everything that needs to be said.

Using Full Res Textures will force all textures to download at their maximum resolution, nowadays this (as explained in the post Pantera linked) means we are commonly looking at up to 8GB if not more texture memory, this texture memory is ALSO doubled not only into our GPU memory (VRAM) but also our system memory (RAM), this means the Viewer will go up all the way to eating 8-12GB RAM (or more) which in most cases for SL users is a potential crash, 16GB or less is pretty common to have in SL and using 12GB alone just for SL (plus some extra that is already reserved) and windows + all apps you have started, essentially means you WILL crash or at the very least be very close to it. Even if you don't crash you will see drastically reduced performance to the point that SL will become absolutely unusable (unless you are already used to running at single digit framerates).

And in short this means and i'm paraphrasing what Whirly said: Forcing full res textures will crash you or at the very least kill your performance (if you had any).

And as i mentioned in Pantera's linked post, if you aren't seeing your framerate dip you didn't need full res in the first place (because your GPU isn't full and could have loaded everything anyway, which implies the issue is elsewhere). So by all means the warning is warranted, it's just kept simple because SL users tend to not understand any kind of explanation anyway, trying to explain the issue in detail would be futile.

Thank you Niran for taking the time to explain. The memory context in this case is helpful. I can now compare apple to apple ...  I have not crashed and I tried to go to 'busy' sims too.  I have not so far observed a crash, nor performance issues. (If I run two FS together at the same time, then it gets very slow, and I have to make my windows smaller to cope) But no more blur!! 

Also, I was referring to FS, when I use Black Dragon, my impression was that it loads very fast and I have no issues. (a few months ago)

On a related topic, don't know already a thread on this. BOM bake time is actually a few seconds longer (sometimes 10sec) and it does not seem to be cached. Every time I change hairbaseA to hairbaseB and back to A, for example, it will takes a few seconds to load, and it appears that it only loads when the camera is on it. i.e. I can't even preload it nor caching it. Is this the expected latest behaviour of BOM texture loading? Or I am doing some setting wrong?  I tried clearing my cache and start over, it does not help.

Thank you again for responding.