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Flame Swenholt

Blacklist Feature?

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I was wondering if a blacklist feature is hidden away in the merchant home area or somewhere in the My Marketplace menu, since we have some individuals we prefer to blacklist ourselves given past experiences with copybotting and other issues where we'd rather not do business with the individuals.

We are looking towards the marketplace due to the API extensions for our vendor system (before the comment is made, we are not changing from our current vendor system. Period.), and while we don't expect interaction with our currently installed blacklist system (that's asking for too much), just having the option of adding/removing people much like how we add and remove access in regions and parcels is all we are looking for if this exists or is even being considered.

I know a JIRA was made roughly 2 years ago, but considering that JIRA is no longer in use and because some older JIRAs (namely the group ban list feature) have seemingly been given notice, we would like to expand to the marketplace but will have to reconsider if we cannot block certain users from our store.

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I find this a little confusing.  From what I've learned recently about copybotting the offenders only need to "see" the product and then can copy it using software on their own hard drive.  If you block sales / visits to your stores, aren't you also blocking honest people?  Further, can't a copybotter copy your stuff without ever setting foot in your store.  All they have to do is look at the item on someone or on someone else's land, right?

 

Sometimes I think the minute I think up an idea and build it, I see it advertised in some group or some such thing.  I console myself with the fact that my ideas are boundless.  I can always think up the next thing that I want to make...usually before I’ve had time to do all the pics and put things on MP.  So I try not to worry if I’m being copied because I can't do a damn thing to change it.  The recent tide of limiting / blocking individuals or using a "must be over 30 days old," script hasn’t seemed to stop the copybotters and has stopped honest newbies from gaining access to your products. 

 

That's my two cents (L$5)

 

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We use our blacklist carefully and selectively. We are aware it doesn't fully stop copybotting and we never state it is the perfect fix, but for what it does, it proves a point and does slow things down. This also applies with our group manager system that acts as a 'banlist' for groups, which is also not a perfect solution (and even with the one LL is implementing, it also holds the same issues and flaws), but it does help keep things more organized and reduces problems.

You seem to be inclining that we just fire off the blacklist/ban cannon like fireworks. We know the difference between honest individuals and problematic ones, and that is why we make use of such services to help keep our group chat without spam bots, greifers, and over whelming drama so that the honest individuals can further enjoy the services we provide ourselves. It's been working for us for over a year, and we do not intend to look back.

I've only just heard about the 'must be over 30 days old' from this forum and I agree it isn't practical at all. For our group, we thought about blocking accounts that were not 7 days old minimally but at the very least presenting the reasons why. We haven't pushed forward with it, but we also provide alternative ways of announcing things such as websites and the use of Twitter, which has worked almost flawlessly.

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Flame Swenholt wrote:

We use our blacklist carefully and selectively. We are aware it doesn't fully stop copybotting and we never state it is the perfect fix, but for what it does, it proves a point and does slow things down.

How is this going to slow anybody down while they can easily create not blacklisted alts, and/or let their friends do the shopping for them? Blacklist on MP sales wouldnt serve a practical purpose. 

 

 

 

 

 

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Anyway, i would enjoy to have control over who can(not) buy from me in MP.

I remember a freak buying cheap items only to 1-star them... and honest i dont care to do busines with such. 

 

Maybe they could disallow the sale to individuals you have muted...

 

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It is somewhat pointless but to avoid the malicious reviews, all that LL has to do is the same as Ebay... let us see the reviews of all of the other products that the customer has purchased. It's easy then to see a trend of genuine purchases and honest reviews vs a bunch of reviews posted in malice.

 

If I recall xstreet let you see the other purchases that person had made although then there's also a bit of a privacy issue as not everyone wants their purchase history exposed to the world!

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