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Griffin Ceawlin wrote:


Lacy217 McLuhan wrote:

... work thru their rape fantasies...

Maybe that's exactly what they're doing???

And who says they need to "work thru" (sic) them, anyway?

What is next?  Pedophile parties for Toddlers?


Apples and oranges, but points to you for bringing in the straw man.

The only difference is that LL has decided to ban one but not the other. They are otherwise both for people with criminally dangerous mental health issues. In both cases the person is fantasizing about committing a horrendous violent act upon another person - I fail to see anything but two different varieties of apple.

 

 

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Pussycat Catnap wrote:


Griffin Ceawlin wrote:


Lacy217 McLuhan wrote:

... work thru their rape fantasies...

Maybe that's exactly what they're doing???

And who says they need to "work thru" (sic) them, anyway?

What is next?  Pedophile parties for Toddlers?


Apples and oranges, but points to you for bringing in the straw man.

The only difference is that LL has decided to ban one but not the other.
They are otherwise both for people with criminally dangerous mental health issues.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. But state it for what it is. Your OPINION.


In both cases the person is fantasizing about committing a horrendous violent act upon another person - I fail to see anything but two different varieties of apple.


There are statutes that prohibit sexualized depictions of minors. I don't know of any such statutes regarding depictions of rape. There's your difference.

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Pussycat Catnap wrote:

That rape is a criminally violent act is not an opinion.

I don't think anybody here is of that opinion. But we're not talking about actual rape here, are we? We're talking about the acting out of fantasies... in PIXELS.

Your OPINION would seem to be be that people participating in the acting out of such fantasies have "criminally dangerous mental health issues."

Again, your OPINION.

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Pussycat Catnap wrote:


Griffin Ceawlin wrote:


Lacy217 McLuhan wrote:

... work thru their rape fantasies...

Maybe that's exactly what they're doing???

And who says they need to "work thru" (sic) them, anyway?

What is next?  Pedophile parties for Toddlers?


Apples and oranges, but points to you for bringing in the straw man.

The only difference is that LL has decided to ban one but not the other.
They are otherwise both for people with criminally dangerous mental health issues. In both cases the person is fantasizing about committing a horrendous violent act upon another person - I fail to see anything but two different varieties of apple.

 

 

They didnt "decide" anything.. It is against US federal law to have a depiction of a child , real or digital, in any sort of sexual situation. All LL did was follow the law. Last time i checked it wasn't illegal to roleplay.

I suppose next you will say anyone that is into bondage has dangerous mental issues? Or someone that likes to be whipped? Or spanked? If its consensual, what do you care?

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What about the people who like to RP being the victims? What about them constitutes "criminally dangerous mental health issues?" Roleplay scenarios in virtual environments are, by their nature, all consensual. Someone acting out a fantasy with a willing partner who shares the same fantasy has very little to do with anyone being "criminally dangerous" in RL.

Rape is (with rare exceptions)  not about mental health issues, it is about power and control. The belief that rape derives from a mental illness and is a twisted expression of sexual desire rather than what it is, a way to exert power over another person is akin to saying people who abuse their domestic partners are mentally ill or only beat their partners when under the influence of alcohol or drugs. No mental illness, no addictions are required, abusive people are more often than not "jerks" (feel free to substitute more strong language that comes to mind).

By definition, major sexual sadism is nonconsensual. Someone who seeks a willing role play partner to act out a fantasy does not have criminally dangerous mental health issues. Someone diagnosed with major sexual sadism and Anti-Social Personality disorder who commits RL nonconsensual acts stemming from those diagnoses is dangerous.

With all the bad press SL has received over the years, how many virtual RP rapists in SL turn into RL rapists? I've heard of weirdness, stalking, one particularly bizzare attempt at kidnapping some years back (it was a woman whose SL boyfriend broke up with her btw). If participants in rape RP went out and became RL rapists, I would think it would have made big headlines, and continued to do so over the years.

I have met a few major sexual sadists in SL. I'd rather someone like that come to SL and do their thing, as objectionable as it can be, than do it in RL. 

As to whether fantasizing and role playing such acts makes someone more likely to commit them in RL, I have no idea, the statistics and numbers vary widely and are twisted this way and that to suit political and social agendas; I don't think they're very reliable.

I read that people diagnosed with any of the paraphilias who act out "disturbing" fantasies with a consensual partner makes it less likely that the acts will committed with an unwilling partner in RL with the exception of pedophilia, that that one paraphilia out of many is the only one where fantasy is more likely to work its way into reality. That is what made me doubt the validity of the statistics ... how does that work, what makes that one, among many, paraphilia so different from the rest?

HOWEVER, that statistic, whether twisted for an agenda or not is largely responsible in convincing lawmakers and courts to enact and enforce the strict laws to protect children from exploitation. Here is a link with details regarding the US law ... http://www.justice.gov/criminal/ceos/citizensguide/citizensguide_porn.html I am not familiar with laws outside the US, though I know they're in place and enforced.

 

 

 

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