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I WONDER WHY THE MAIN AVAILABLE JOBS IN SL ARE IN THE SEX INDUSTRY

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This is a bit frustrating for me because I am not trying to get a job in that industry. I go to job agencies and that is mainly what I find. To me that is one of the downsides of SL. I love SL, but wish there was a huge variety of job types like in RL Anyone else feel the same? Different? . 

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Well... The truth to that is sex has always selled the best in the entire world. That's one of the reasons why prostitution from the ancient days still lives, so it's simple as that.

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And there are so many things that people do in real life that are simply not needed in SL. Still, you can always try to think of something new, there are plenty of creative things you can do to earn some extra lindens. Maybe you know how to do something in RL that you can find a way to adapt to SL.

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It is the  nature of SL that most publicly advertised jobs will be in the sex industry or in clubs.

Stores don't really need sales people, and the other big business, land rentals and sales are automated too so all you need is a few people to run even in the largest of estates.   Models are sometimes needed but there are more models than jobs and it is highly competitive.  If someone is putting on a fashion show they go to an agency that handles it all.  In store model jobs are better done by bots who you don't have to pay, show up on time and don't complain.

Other business may higher people but  those jobs are generally pretty specialized and require a lot of experience and skill, such as builders, scripters, marketing people etc.  Then too business owners tend to do most things themselves.

Clubs do hire hosts and DJ's but dont' normally go to a job agency to find one as they get plent of applications from people that go to the club.

There are other jobs out there but are not advertised. 

As someone that has hired a lot of people over the years for things having nothing to do with sex,  I can tell you that most people treat a SL job as part of a 'game',  They don't show up if they get a hot date, or just don't feel like working.  When they do show up they want to be in IM with their friends or are distracted otherwise and don't pay much attention to what they are doing.  It is the rare person that is willing to maintain a good work ethic.  As a business owner I might as well not higher anyone if I can't find someone that is trust worthy , reliable and treats the job as seriously as their RL job especially when I am paying them generously.   Anything else always leaves me in a lurch and is very frustrating.  As a result, when I do need someone I look to people I have known for a while that I trust and/or get recommendations from them of people they have known and trusted for a while.  Rarely do I post any of the jobs in classifieds, on the forums or anywhere else.  I suspect I am not alone in this either. 

If you want a job in SL don't rely on job agencies, who charge the employer a fee. You are better off going around and asking   Prepare a resume showing your skills and experience that you can give to owners.  Fill out applicatoins at non sex clubs.tell everyone you know you are looking in case they hear of anything.

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I work in SL but not in the sex industry. I am a hostess for 2 different clubs, before that I managed a jazz club and also have owned 2 clubs neither of which had anything to do with sex. You can find other jobs in SL, and if your computer will allow it you can also DJ. I enjoy what I do, it's fun to meet different people and be able to interact with them. 

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Well. Everyone knows sex sells. But that is not my cup of tea. When I first came to SL in 2006. The sex industry was massive and very little for clean non-sexual venues, So I created 2 Jazz clubs and ran PG venues and produced hundreds of jobs for the non sexual industry.. Ushered in quite a large Jazz movement that was missing in SL

I honestly think there is a good balance of clean jobs verses jobs in the sex industry.

From looking at the jobs available just on one page @  http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Inworld-Employment/bd-p/InworldEmployment seems to have a good balance of jobs

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I agree with most people here about sex selling...so I won't go there.

One of the reasons there aren't any real jobs in SL, I think, is that people come here for something different. If you're a sales clerk in RL, do you really want to come to SL and do the same thing? Actually had that issue with a friend of mine in SL who was an exotic dancer in RL.

On that note though, I'd always thought it would be really cool to have a central bank in SL. A place where people could deposit excess money and get some interest or borrow money to open business or clubs. The problem, I guess, is that how would you be sure the person running the bank wouldn't steal all your money or the person who is borrowing wouldn't default?

Could be neat if SL was treated like a real society...banks, supermarkets, car dealerships..that sort of stuff.

Just my thoughts..thanks for listening.

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Where does the information comes from that most jobs are located in the sex industry?!

I have watched the chat and add board of some jobcenter groups. The most asked jobs were DJs and Dancers and other club orientated jobs. And a few times there were even jobs which had nothing to do with nightlife at all.

Then we have the creators. Yes, there are shops, brands and creators from which you can get all the naugthy adult stuff, but the "normal" stuff still outnumbers them (I don't count all sexy clothes to the sex industry of course).


Places. Sure, there are many adult themed places and some of them run very well, but even from the adult places not all can be count as part of the sex industry and there are a lot other not A-rated sims which do very well at the moment.

Yes, the sex industry is big, yes many people enjoy it or make a profit with it, but its not all. You can walk trough Sl, enjoy the virtual world without stepping into that business with one toe. Yes, it is there, yes it is not small. But you can say the same about the real world.

 

I have worked in SL too as a hostess and dancer and I know a girl who works as a model, all jobs out of the sex industry.

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Orange Dress_02

 

I really do wish at times more of the stores had clerks.  I went to several shoe stores looking for heels to go with my dress and could find no one to help me.  So for now I'm still stuck with my boots.

 

 

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Roleplay sims have plenty of jobs not sex related.

In our sim you can be a shoeshine, cop, shop assistant, taxi driver, barman, dancer, guide, exhibit builder in a museum, etc, etc.

Pretty much any RL job you can think of, can be possible in a RP sim.

Most of these will only get you tips but if you work hard and do it right, you can do well.

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I never thought about that. What I know is SL is just an online dating getting to know site.

Then you really don't know much about Sl at all. Try getting out there a bit. While sex sells here, as well as anywhere else, and can be popular among the right crowd, it is very far from the "only" thing sl is about. Sl is about far more than that. The problem isn't that there is nothing else out there in this great big virtual world. The problem is people are too lazy to go looking for what they want. They expect it to jump up and bite them in the butt.

 

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There is sex in SL?

I've been here for 3 years and haven't dated anyone.

And I want to keep it that way.

I can think of about 3489382907428728556 things to do in SL I find more interesting then pixel hanky panky.

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rosebanks123 wrote:

I never thought about that. What I know is SL is just an online dating getting to know site.

If that would be true, I wouldn't have used Sl right over the past two years.....common that can't be your idea about SL.

Who would take SL as a serious alternative dating site? SL isn't made for that and doesn't provide informations about the people behind the avatars. You have probably "dated" a lot people who didn't even match with their avatar gender or age.

 

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Then you really don't know much about Sl at all. Try getting out there a bit. While sex sells here, as well as anywhere else, and can be popular among the right crowd, it is very far from the "only" thing sl is about. Sl is about far more than that. The problem isn't that there is nothing else out there in this great big virtual world. The problem is people are too lazy to go looking for what they want. They expect it to jump up and bite them in the butt.

 

^^This^^

 

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Simple cant do anything else in sl,

if you look like a dragon you will be bane every where you go,you must look sexy and  looking for mate,

you like to explore ,you cant privacy every where(they dont want to be seen **bleep**ing lol).

You like to built inword,that is useless prim use to much prim cost ,need sculpt and mesh outworld.

Want your dream house(place)lands cost crasy,want i start playing i buy lands 50L now nothing under 512L.

SL is a place to meet ppl that it nothing more nothing less,look like barbie and ken.

i like to build but i wont spend 300$ for a GAME

sorry this is out of subject

 

 

 

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Tex Monday wrote:

On that note though, I'd always thought it would be really cool to have a central bank in SL. A place where people could deposit excess money and get some interest or borrow money to open business or clubs. The problem, I guess, is that how would you be sure the person running the bank wouldn't steal all your money or the person who is borrowing wouldn't default?

Oh, there were things like banks in SL before, and sure enough, the owners of some of them ran away with the deposits. So, they generally aren't allowed any more. Real world regulated banks would technically still be allowed to come to SL, but i doubt any would want to deal in L$.

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It would be nice to have some sort of funding system in SL though.

Like crowdsourcing.

You post your idea for a sim somewhere, explain how much you need, offer people something in return (support us and you get an apartment for free for a month or something), etc.

Maybe we should just use rl crowdsourcing sites!

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Urzul wrote:

Simple cant do anything else in sl,

if you look like a dragon you will be bane every where you go,you must look sexy and  looking for mate,

you like to explore ,you cant privacy every where(they dont want to be seen **bleep**ing lol).

You like to built inword,that is useless prim use to much prim cost ,need sculpt and mesh outworld.

Want your dream house(place)lands cost crasy,want i start playing i buy lands 50L now nothing under 512L.

SL is a place to meet ppl that it nothing more nothing less,look like barbie and ken.

i like to build but i wont spend 300$ for a GAME

sorry this is out of subject

 

 

 

Ok, lets take this sentence by sentence...I see english isnt your first language so Im hoping Ive understood corectly, fogive me if Iam wrong:

1) Simple cant do anything else in sl,

A. Yes you can, look around,use the destination guide...if youve only found the sexual side of SL, youre missing a lot.

2) if you look like a dragon you will be bane every where you go,you must look sexy and  looking for mate

A. This simply isnt true at all, in my 5.5 years in SL ive rented homes, danced with, role played with and chatted too dragons,robots,animals big & small, ALL sorts. None complained of being banned, although if you go to an area thats roleplaying cowboys & indians dressed as a dragon, you surely cant expect to be welcomed with open arms, but most role play places I know WILL help you dress corerctly to fit in also.

3) you like to explore ,you cant privacy every where(they dont want to be seen **bleep**ing lol).

A. Not true, I explore most days in SL, and find plnety of places to walk around unhindered by people *bleeping* as you so quaintly put it.

4) You like to built inword,that is useless prim use to much prim cost ,need sculpt and mesh outworld

A. One word answer here: SANDBOX

5) SL is a place to meet ppl that it nothing more nothing less,look like barbie and ken
.

A. not true - I know so many people who are busy with a million other things other than dating or relationships with the opposite sex - people who build, explore,script,animate,create,dance,play sports,roleplay.

6) Want your dream house(place)lands cost crasy,want i start playing i buy lands 50L now nothing under 512L.

A. If you want your own land of course it will cost you cash, but you could also rent a home, a themed one or not...costs less than land usually and youn get a prim allowance to play with too, utilise a rented home and the free use of a sandbox....sounds like youve got all your needs sorted out no?

7) i like to build but i wont spend 300$ for a GAME

A. Thats the cost of renting an entire sim...theres no need to do that to build?  I cant imagine youve got something to build that requires 16000 prims? Use sandboxes, create, sell...save your pennies up for some land if you really need it.

 

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There used to be a ton of various jobs - many very lucrative - in Second Life but consistent decisions by Linden Lab has made all but a few disappear over the last five years. When I first arrived, the top jobs were (in no particular order): building, business management, land sales / management, banking, gaming, security, fashion, modeling, pole dancing, and graphic advertising. DJing, a popular but declining job today, was not around at first along with voice / cam escorting because those features still had to be developed. Today most jobs are in direct violation of Linden Lab's TOS or smothered by their own programs such as Linden Homes and the Marketplace. What you are finding left is a few jobs that still pull in a little money but not nearly what they used to. For instance, after doing a short stint as a hostess I was talked into trying dancing which I became quite good at. In 2007 I average L$10,200  in tips for a 4-hour shift and cashed out L$1.35 million that year (don't go figuring out the USD conversion, the rate was much higher than today!). I also raised just under L$200,000 in a 18-hour fundraiser spree for one of the first SL Relay for Life events without the use of voice, cams, pixel bumping, or otherwise selling my soul to the devil. For several reasons, that kind of money just does not exchange hands today which affects everyone. If graphic artists, models, DJs, dancers, and business managers are not making money they are not spending it either which starts the death spiral into the comparatively small SL economy today.

So to answer your question, there are jobs out there but usually paid in perks or very low wages. You just have the unfortunate problem of bad timing and coming into SL when the virtual economy is taking its last breaths. There is also the linden Golden Rule which has been around since Second Life began but is more true now than ever before; you spend far less time earning RL money and buying lindens than you can earning the same amount in-world. Consider that first and then find your happiness volunteering or accepting a low-pay / high perk job at a sim you love for just the fun of it.

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Nuhai Ling wrote:

There used to be a ton of various jobs - many very lucrative - in Second Life but consistent decisions by Linden Lab has made all but a few disappear over the last five years. When I first arrived, the top jobs were (in no particular order): building, business management, land sales / management, banking, gaming, security, fashion, modeling, pole dancing, and graphic advertising. DJing, a popular but declining job today, was not around at first along with voice / cam escorting because those features still had to be developed. Today most jobs are in direct violation of Linden Lab's TOS or smothered by their own programs such as Linden Homes and the Marketplace. What you are finding left is a few jobs that still pull in a little money but not nearly what they used to. For instance, after doing a short stint as a hostess I was talked into trying dancing which I became quite good at. In 2007 I average L$10,200  in tips for a 4-hour shift and cashed out L$1.35 million that year (don't go figuring out the USD conversion, the rate was much higher than today!). I also raised just under L$200,000 in a 18-hour fundraiser spree for one of the first SL Relay for Life events without the use of voice, cams, pixel bumping, or otherwise selling my soul to the devil. For several reasons, that kind of money just does not exchange hands today which affects everyone. If graphic artists, models, DJs, dancers, and business managers are not making money they are not spending it either which starts the death spiral into the comparatively small SL economy today.

So to answer your question, there are jobs out there but usually paid in perks or very low wages. You just have the unfortunate problem of bad timing and coming into SL when the virtual economy is taking its last breaths. There is also the linden Golden Rule which has been around since Second Life began but is more true now than ever before; you spend far less time earning RL money and buying lindens than you can earning the same amount in-world. Consider that first and then find your happiness volunteering or accepting a low-pay / high perk job at a sim you love for just the fun of it.

You bring up some excellent points, Nuhai. Thank you.

I do agree with what you're saying...the economy seems to be in a decline, possibily due to the lack of decent jobs out there. I think it's mostly the adult industry and the Premium members that keep it afloat. The members get stipends from LL that allow them to spend and keep things going. As a non-premium member, I don't go out as much and spend as I don't have a new source of money coming in..and for me, working to pay for a house or other things is too much like RL to me. If it wasn't for the fact that I am renting a house at a VERY VERY inexpensive rate from a friend of mine, I wouldn't have one. Yes, you can buy Lindens but I also don't want to spend my hard earned cash to fund my SL habit...:matte-motes-sunglasses-1:

Ok, it's a bit of a rant....just dropping my two cents into the conversation.

Thanks for listening.....

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