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Why do people seem to have fun sending their avatar to some lounge, listen to music and supposedly say they are hanging out.  Most lounges i've been too nobody even talks.  And if they are talking its some live concert and they are all typing Yay!!! WOOO!!! ............................... >=/

Somewhat sadens me that I even wasted my time with SL.  No one hangs out at Golf courses where its an actual activity! Haven't seen any other games yet but prob noone their either.... Hm...

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You'd be surprised how many people don't talk in open chat but stick to private messages. When I used to go to clubs, this is how a lot of the guys would operate. I'd never see them talk out int he open but I'd have 4 or 5 IMing me at once.

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Sometimes I'm just there for the music doing other stuff besides. Other times I'm busy in IMs. Thats how it is for me at most clubs. Only a few which are mostly lounges and tiny clubs get my attention to local chat. In most normal human clubs there is only nonesense going on in local chat.

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In RL when I go out to a club  I don't shout to be heard by everyone.  In local chat that is what you are doing.  So, I'm mostly in IM"s with my friends and with other patrons I'm chatting with.

I don't like open voice in clubs.  It interferes with the music and I don't want to hear peoples kids screaming, their TV's going and the other normal household noises.  People should keep voice in private or go to a place specifically for voice chat, not a music venue.  I won't go to clubs that allow voice.

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It saddens me that you may think you wasted time with SL, as there is such a lot to see and do, although some people don't ever take to it. 

I personally do not enjoy going to music clubs, and really detest the "YAY!!! WOOOOO" types spammy chat gestures, although I do still like particle poofers (!). For some people, though, a music club is somewhere to park up their avatar, set it in dance mode, so they can listen to the music in the background while they are in another window answering emails, checking up with RL friends on social networks, viewing movies, or even ironing their shirt for their real life job the following day.

As others have asked/said in this thread, how many RL venues do you go to where people talk to everyone in the venue at once - open chat in SL is the equivalent of that.  Having a 2-way conversation is enough for most people, so a lot are in private IMs.

A few weeks ago, I was invite to an interesting breakfast meet-up.  The chat was very busy, and interesting, and it was rather excellent how so many people from different parts of the world could meet up like this.  It would have been impossible - and expensive - to have syncronised our times and met up in RL in the same way.  

What was your reason for joining Second Life?  Where did you hear about it? What would you like to be able to do?

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Alot of what's been said bears listening to .

I used to be partnered to someone who worked at a club where a consistent , group type "prattle" was the norm in open chat. The kind of thing it sounds like you were expecting. So it IS out there, maybe just depends on where you hang out at.

For me as an individual though, I fell in the catagory of people who found that annoying lol. I'm one who often doesn't want to hear the remarks/offerings of people I don't know about topicss I potentially dislike. Neither do I like keeping track of it all as the open chat scrolls quickly by with so many contributors. I have my private IMs open and really that's where my attention is.

Are there times when its definately about the open chat for me? Certainly . But not in nightclubs or spaces where the population is undefined. I save that kind of chat for clubs that you join;  a defined circles of people, with specific directions of conversation, that I came there for.  

I'm just saying, consider that there are a couple of types of "audiences" out there when you talk about socializing methods.

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Sianide wrote:

Why do people seem to have fun sending their avatar to some lounge, listen to music and supposedly say they are hanging out.  Most lounges i've been too nobody even talks.  And if they are talking its some live concert and they are all typing Yay!!! WOOO!!! ............................... >=/

I must admit clubs aren't my thing either, I think as others have said most of the talking goes on in IM, perhaps you should consider what it is you are doing or not doing which is discouraging others from engaging with you, wait, let me give you a clue....


Sianide wrote:

Somewhat sadens me that I even wasted my time with SL.  No one hangs out at Golf courses where its an actual activity! Haven't seen any other games yet but prob noone their either.... Hm...

That sort of negative, everything is rubbish, attitude is extremely unattractive and if the people around you get a whiff of it they really aren't going to want to spend anytime hanging out with you.

i havent played golf here, but if it was my thing I would be checking to see if there is an inworld group, are there tournaments, teams, clubs, meetings. If there are get involved, if there aren't create them, its your world and your imagination, if you find it boring, its because you are boring. 

 

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Well Put Ziggy.. I would give you a kudos if I could LOL.....

To the OP: The thought of having a crowd at a golf sim would make it a bit hard for anyone to play anyway. 30 users on a region would raise the handicap quite a bit... Last time I went to a real life golf event. The only thing everyone could do is say shhhhhhhhhh he is putting! Couldn't even talk........ LOL

My Motto is. " It is what you make of it. Not what others make of it" Pave your own road and go to a golf sim and hang out if that is what you like they are out there . Use search.Join the golf groups. Get plugged into your hobbies..

You ask why? You can pretty much answer your own question by asking your self, why do you like to do the things you do? The Answer is simple. Because you enjoy it..

 

Golf to me is boring as hell . But if somone enjoys it. I wont put them down for it..

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As many people here have pointed out a lot happens in IM not all ways in group chat at clubs, I for one just don't like trying to keep up with group chat special if it's really active.  There's a good chance at clubs that many of the people there are reading your profile, having an interesting, fun, inviting profile is much more likely to get people sending you IMs, I looked at your profile and it says nothing about your personality or interest.

One reason people go to clubs to socialize is that it can be hard to talk and run around in a game at the same time (unless your using voie), start a dance animation and your free to socialize with out having to more around a lot. Same reason I like trains in SL you can explore and be free to chat at the same time.  Many RP game are very or entirely socially based.  If your into golf join some golf groups to meet other people in to golf or to find when there may be golf events, or as other people have suggested start one if there isn't any. 

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I don't quite get the club thing anyways. A bunch of lag, jery avatar dancing, crappy music, gesturbations non-stop, reminding everyone to tip the DJ, and people wearing crap that creates even MORE lag (are those 200 flexi-prim wings REALLY necessary?)

 

In reference to Amethyst's comment - yeah with voice you often get to enjoy their background noises... how sucky would it be if you were having a good voice chat and in the background you hear the husband yelling "Hey honey, come look at the size of the dump I just took!"

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MoiselleErin Teardrop wrote:

 (are those 200 flexi-prim wings REALLY necessary?)

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It is probably about as neccessary is your 200+ prim hair in your badge.And your Flexi dress

 

What ever happened to live and let live lol

 

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ohhh.... how I hate such gestures .. it is the reason I don't go to clubs even when I am also convinced to miss out on some great music this way. But the gesture spamming tend to get all the fun sucked out of the event.

 

However I do go to one club I am following around the grid for several years now and that combines great music with people don't spam gestures and use open chat for funny and often interesting conversations ... so I guess it all comes down to find the right place and the right group of people.

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Rin Tae wrote:

ohhh.... how I hate such gestures .. it is the reason I don't go to clubs even when I am also convinced to miss out on some great music this way. But the gesture spamming tend to get all the fun sucked out of the event.

The gesture spam in live concerts is really annoying.  It's ok to appreciate the performer with one simple *Applause* or similar short show of appreciation.

 

For some attendees it does not seem to be enough.  They flood the chat with tens of repeated ** A P P L A U S E E E E E E !!!!!!  A W E S O M E E E E E !!!!!!!  W O O T,  W O W E E E E ...!!!** gestures.  And naturally those gestures will have a loud noise with them overriding anything what the performer says after the song.  Well, one can always pick those avies and mute...  but then it's not any more a shared experience.  People see and hear different things in a common gathering.

 

Grrr... :smileymad:

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MoiselleErin Teardrop wrote:

 

how sucky would it be if you were having a good voice chat and in the background you hear the husband yelling "Hey honey, come look at the size of the dump I just took!"

I can't even tell you how many times my husband has done that while I was voicing. Darn nasty men. lol

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For me, the main reason why I hang out at clubs is for the music and the society, and if the music is there but there's absolutely no chat in the club other than IMs, I tend to get bored and leave. Fortunately though, I have been to clubs where there is a healthy chatter going on, and those are the places that I tend to hang out at the most. I've made some pretty awesome friends at those places.

As for gesture spam... yeah, I hate those as well. Especially those super long ones that make loud noises and huge gestures that take up the whole chat box, which seem to be pretty popular at certain clubs... which I chose to not hang out at.

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Rin Tae wrote:

However I do go to one club I am following around the grid for several years now and that combines great music with people don't spam gestures and use open chat for funny and often interesting conversations ... so I guess it all comes down to find the right place and the right group of people.

 

As someone who spends a lot of time in clubs I completely agree. There are plenty of places to hear music and they are by no means all alike. Sometimes the chat is almost non-stop but when we're all having fun it doesn't seem to detract from the music at all (no voice, of course; I can't imagine why a music club would allow voice in the first place). And in most of the places I go, gestures are about as popular as they should be, which is to say not very. Applause at the end of a number is about as far as it goes.

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Some people's computers can't handle the newer viewers or by choice they remain on dino viewers. So not everyone can turn off gestures. I wish club owners would. :D

 

I stopped going to clubs in SL long ago. Oh for ye innocent days of olde, before I knew about certain IP trackers/IP stalkers, nosey parkers, and the like, and I could just enjoy the music streams wherever I went. Oh for the days when most clubs had not yet heard of bots crews, or gesture spam. Those days are long gone.

 

There are some clubs and music venues in which the music is important and they tend to be less annoying that way (never any guarantee who is snooping around your IP, though.) But for the most part it's just as fun now to stay home or on my own land if my avatar ever gets an urge for dancing feet.

 

If it is conversation you are after, or one person speaking and everyone else listening, maybe look into conversation groups, or classes. If you want intense or focused group activity that might be one way to go.

 

I've never been to a golf course in SL although it had vaguely crossed my mind now and then (basically when asked 'are there any sports in SL?') that it, like most sports, is probably out there somewhere. But join some golfing groups. Problem solved. You can organize meetups. People may or may not show. Not sure what other 'games' you meant - sports, or computer game-style quests? But it is probably here in SL if you can imagine it. If not, create it yourself.

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I am one of those that love to go to a club on a regular basis. Every Monday and Friday to be precise. Why? To listen to great music, socialise, meet people and catch up with friends that come there too and most of them I only meet in there. Yeah, I activate a series of dances and chat in IM with my partner, but we both are actively chatting in local chat at the same time.

It's enjoyable and relaxing and I am always looking forward to those evenings. That venue is not overloaded with gestures (the occasional: 'Hoooooo!' and 'w000t' , but not spammy) and only the DJ is in voice and the nice thing is she interacts with local chat and patrons during her set.

Did that answer your 'why'?

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Wow. You are so negative in discussions. There are many good clubs with great music and also live SL performers, not just my opinion but you can see by the crowd and their own following. I have been in sl many years and I will say this time around I have seen some real creative people and sim owners do great jobs. I can't understand the rudeness, opinions are one thing but to constantly be so rude.

Re: the flexi wing prims isn't that part of being a high maintenance av LOL. I am going to stop right here as I hope you can find good in sl. Why don't you take miniature Erin's advice, sim owners, dj's are all people too, just maybe not unhappy people hiding behind a monitor and actually trying to have fun. Have a great day :)

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