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Ditch the Facelight

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Griffin Ceawlin wrote:

Oh, stop being all reasonable and **bleep**, you. You'll confuse people.

You can probably rest assured that I will still be branded one of those evil, anti-social, narcissistic facelight wearers.  Additionally, there are those busy bodies who would mock me for my avatar being unrealistically tall, my hips too narrow, my shoulders too broad, my unmentionables too large, my wearing of flexi prims, my exposing of the occasional butt crack, etc... etc...

...Dres *luckily, stopped wearing bling ages ago*

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lillez wrote:

I would like to try and explain a different perspective with this post.   I am a person who has used  the facelight that came with my premium brand skin.   I do not add things to this such as bling or glitters.   Every day I get countless compliments on my appearance....with the facelight on..      During my short tenure here in SL, I have had 3 rude, experienced SL people point out that my facelight is a problem for them and I need to turn it off.      Now I know I am just a noobie......but if I have 90 people  telling me that my look is one of the best they have seen.....and 3  people telling me my facelight is too bright.....which would you go with?

The simple truth of this situation is the problem is  not just  facelights.    The problem is facelight  +  viewers settings.  Notice...there are two halves to this problem....two people involved.     I just left a place where  person after person complimented my avi......but one individual told me my facelight was too bright and I needed to turn it off.   So is the problem my facelight when 95%  of the people like it.....or the settings that some people have?

Obviously, the facelight.  If you actually got a skin that is worth the money, it'd look good without the facelight.  Thankfully, this fad has largely died now, and it's only real serious newbies who are using them.  That said, you don't have to look like a lightbulb to do it; your skin isn't supposed to look like you're standing in front of a vanity in the middle of the night.  If you want to look like you do in full light all the time, that's what environment settings are for, set yours to noon.

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Can we have this not be a thing?  It's better to respond to an old thread than to rehash the same thing in a new thread.  Kudos on lillez for finding an existing thread on the subject instead of starting the whole thing over again.

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Bobbie Faulds wrote:

Simple solution, under the advanced menu in the rendering, you can chose not to render attach lights...problem solved.

This, however, also destroys legitimate uses of attached lights, like flashlights, lanterns, headlamps, etc. that don't destroy suspension of disbelief in any given scene.

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Pussycat Catnap wrote:

But it might also be asking everyone else to limit their visual options because one person refuses
to use
 
respect the environment around them, since many people nearby are using 
modern graphics settings.

 

Fixed that for you.  I'm not going to hate on someone for having older hardware, but to do so and not get the hint...

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Perrie Juran wrote:

I've seen cases of people wearing Facelights because they were told they made them look better when on their own (low end) computers they couldn't even see the difference.


I guess that's this decade's "Here, wear this attachment" and it turns out to be a rocket that sends 'em into orbit type trick.

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Is it still going on? Lol. I created a nice low light and offered it for free for years just tto wean people off cleigh lights. I need to put it up again. Skin makers shouldn't include lights. Some lights are great for photography.. Low lights were never the issue. And I've seen old residents in cleigh lights. Models for sure. I'm less bothered nowadays. But it must have bothered me when I oped this year's ago.

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Well I agree. I'd rather run around Mainland and ask ppl to clean up their land. Lol... I can't recall the bee in my bonnet when I wrote this op. And I've never told anyone to ditch facelights. Someone told me though when I was a newb.

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Faye Feldragonne wrote:

I've never told anyone to ditch facelights.

Really?  You may have been having a bad day when you started this thread oh so very long ago, but the whole point of your doing so was to tell people to ditch facelights... was it not?

...Dres

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Baloo Uriza wrote:


Bobbie Faulds wrote:

Simple solution, under the advanced menu in the rendering, you can chose not to render attach lights...problem solved.

This, however, also destroys legitimate uses of attached lights, like flashlights, lanterns, headlamps, etc. that don't destroy suspension of disbelief in any given scene.

I'm in SL many years and I can't remember of any torchlight user. But I can remember of many 1000 foolish looking avatars with way to bright facelights.

Well, now I still see no torchlights and If I meet one of that foolish looking facelight-avatars - I will not even know it ! And I will still find my way without a working torchlight.

Isn't that great? :D

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Nova Convair wrote:


Baloo Uriza wrote:

 

This, however, also destroys legitimate uses of attached lights, like flashlights, lanterns, headlamps, etc. that don't destroy suspension of disbelief in any given scene.

I'm in SL many years and I can't remember of any torchlight user.

Erm...  I still use a torch occasionally at night when it's very dark in the forest. :matte-motes-big-grin: :smileyvery-happy: :smileywink:

However, I have never used facelights and I will never do so. There is no need for them. Lighting one's face with invisible light source looks strange to me. People, wear torches! :smileytongue:

Torch.jpg

 

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Probably been mentioned before, but I find a subtle facelight eliminates face shadows. Once that design flaw is fixed I feel facelights will become obsolete. 

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Face shadows are a result of your windlight settings. The one thing people have to face is that regardless of how good they may look to themselves, they may not look good to others, depending on their graphics and windlight settings. The best you can do is set your windlight setting so you are happy with what you see. That's all you have control over. The right windlight settings and no facelights are needed....just saying.

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serotica wrote:

Probably been mentioned before, but I find a subtle facelight eliminates face shadows. Once that design flaw is fixed I feel facelights will become obsolete. 

What do you mean by a "design flaw"? There is no need to fix the lighting nor to eliminate shadows. Shadows are cool. What needs fixing is the avatar mesh to get rid of the faults in it.

Of course facelight will eliminate the shadows. I almost always keep shadows on in my viewer. I certainly will not want a facelight to kill the shadows. Look at peoples faces in RL when the sun is shining brightly. The faces will have shadows depending how the sunlights hits the face. I wonder why people want the avatar face to be lit evenly and perfectly in the best possible way always - like in a photo studio?

 

Picture below: Just some Windlight setting, shadows on, no facelight. Yay!

If a facelight was worn in the picture here it would have killed the effect of ambient lighting and shadows and thus it would have produced more flatly lit uninteresting picture.

No-facelight.jpg

Yeah, I'm not a fan of facelights. I prefer torches, when needed.  :smileyvery-happy: :smileywink:

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