bruno Canadeo Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Linden Lab has removed 10 random products from my list!!Branded item removed??! What??There are no branded item(s), brand name, logo, image(s), or other item(s) containing intellectual property in my products... Perhaps separated by commas in metatags (so it's not a brand).The LL mail:-----Messaggio originale-----Da: Intellectual Property Team Inviato: martedì 22 maggio 2012 19:49A: ***************Oggetto: Notice re: Your Second Life Marketplace ListingsDear bruno Canadeo:We’re writing you because your Second Life Marketplace listings include the following branded item(s), brand name(s), or other item(s) containing intellectual property :HARLEY DAVIDSON*Marketplace Listing Guidelines*Branded items may be listed or sold only by the brand or intellectual property owner or its authorized agents. Please review the Branding Guidelines in our Marketplace Listing Guidelines at:https://marketplace.secondlife.com/listing_guidelines#branding-guidelinesWe also do not allow keyword spam in listings – or the use of brand names that have nothing to do with the item listed so that the listing will appear in search results. Please see Disallowed Actions: Item or Keyword Spam at:https://marketplace.secondlife.com/listing_guidelines#keyword-spam*Removal of Brand(s) or Intellectual Property* Linden Lab has removed the above uses of brand(s) or intellectual property from:* Your Second Life Marketplace listings* Your content within the Second Life virtual world.No refunds will be issued for any removals.Please review all of your listings to make sure they are in compliance with the Marketplace Listing Guidelines. **Future warnings may result in your suspension or termination from Second Life.**If you are the intellectual property owner or authorized by the intellectual property owner to use the above brand(s) or intellectual property, please reply to this email and attach documentation establishing your ownership or authority.Thank you for your cooperation and for your creation of original content for the Second Life world.Sincerely,The IP Team at Linden Lab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Collingwood Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 You used "harley" "davidson" in your keywords on an item I see. Did the removed items use the name Harley Davidson in the description too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valerie Inshan Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 The message you received from LL says it all. Using Harley Davidson without permission is an infrigement to DMCA: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Intellectual_Property Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rival Destiny Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Why are you complaining? You break the rules you suffer the consequences. I notice you STILL have other items on your MP that are DMCA'able - unless you contacted the movie makers of Kill Bill & got their permission, you are infringing on their rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Canadeo Posted May 23, 2012 Author Share Posted May 23, 2012 I have not used the name "harley davidson" in description, product, title, image, etc! Tags are not public and not descriptive. The brand is "harley davidson". It is not harley. It is not Davidson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy21 Slade Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 bruno Canadeo wrote: I have not used the name "harley davidson" in description, product, title, image, etc! Tags are not public and not descriptive. The brand is "harley davidson". It is not harley. It is not Davidson So are you saying you used the word 'Harley' then, because it's very likely that forms part of the Harley Davidson trademarks as well, just like Cocoa Cola and Coke or Second Life and SL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno Canadeo Posted May 23, 2012 Author Share Posted May 23, 2012 yes but i use the word harley only in the meta tags for search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst Jetaime Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 bruno Canadeo wrote: Perhaps separated by commas in metatags (so it's not a brand). I have not used the name " harley davidson" in description, product, title, image, etc! Tags are not public and not descriptive. The brand is "harley davidson". It is not harley. It is not Davidson Your being disingenuous. Even though you separated these two words by commas, the intent is clear that you were putting them there so that your product would show up if people entered the brand name in search. That is a clear violation of the prohibition against using brand names as keywords, even if separated by commas, because the result is the same. It was a violation of the LL policies as well as the IP rights of Harley Davidson. Public or not, the policy is clear that you cannot use keywords in this way. This didn't happen coincidently, you purposely did it. You have no defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasher Oh Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Hi Bruno - using the name in meta keyword tags is also a no no. Many moons ago I made the mistake of using a personalities name in the keywords of a few outfits because they reflected that performers style. They were removed and I got the same note as you received. The problem with that sort of removal by the commerce team is that the items can't be simply ammended and relisted as they can when flagged. On this occasion it's quite simply one strike and your out! ^L^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy21 Slade Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Amethyst Jetaime wrote: Public or not, the policy is clear that you cannot use keywords in this way. This didn't happen coincidently, you purposely did it. You have no defense Thats true. Its shame we see these attempts to wriggle around the rules on technicalities. To the OP - just comply with the rules in deed and in spirit and you wont have items removed, you are obviously talented, there really shouldnt be any need for you to be involved in this sort of noobie nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Collingwood Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 bruno Canadeo wrote: I have not used the name "harley davidson" in description, product, title, image, etc! Tags are not public and not descriptive. The brand is "harley davidson". It is not harley. It is not Davidson Check the keywords on this item. https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/DAVIN-BEATLE-ONE-PERCENT-Edition-v-13-Officine-Aliprandi-motorcycle-chopper-bobber/2507262 I know it is frustrating, but when harley davidson is the search term the items come up as well as many other items that are not your items. Keyword spam removals are most irritating. The whole flagging system just sucks. You never get to know who accused you.. it just sucks for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosemaery Lorefield Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 The email says that you are not allowed to use keywords that do not pertain to your item. Since your item is *not* a Harley Davidson, using those keywords is spam. Not judging, just sayin', that's what the email says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake1 Nightfire Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Well, you did prove your company policy to be true... " In SL the 99% of motorcyclists are law-abiding citizens. * We are the 1% * " You broke the rules and got smacked by LL. Nice use of the NoS image in your banner. You might want to remove that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WADE1 Jya Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 I'm happy to see Lindens clamping down a bit on this kind of thing lately... if indeed that is happening. So it appears anyway. Cool :catvery-happy: I've always found sloppy treatment of IP & prevalent graymarket culture around SL to be quite repugnant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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