Casino Games

[redxrob]

Do you make money off casino games?

[redxrob]

Are casino banned on here thats what i been told?.

[Innula Zenovka]

You have been told correctly: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Policy_Regarding_Wagering_in_Second_Life

 

[Eaglewing Foxtrot]

Does that apply to all games involving risk, or is it okay if enough skill is involved, like an actual game and not just a casino?

[Innula Zenovka]

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Eaglewing

Foxtrot wrote:

Does that apply to all games involving risk, or is it okay if enough skill is involved, like an actual game and not just a casino?

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That's a very good question.   The article, Linden Lab Official: Policy Regarding Wagering in Second Life is ambiguous, to my mind.  

It starts by telling us that LL forbid  games with a money payout that "Rely on chance or random number generation to determine a winner." That can be taken to mean that the extent to which chance or random number generation plays a role is the important factor, but, when you get into the article, it seems to harden the policy by saying

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This policy only applies to

wagering

games that

involve

an element of chance. This includes, for instance, any game involving random number generation, simulated dice, cards, poker, lotteries, bingo, or any other "chance" game.

  Games of pure intellectual or physical skill, such as puzzles or other skill contests, may not fall under this definition.

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 And LL's practice is no less confusing; I've never been able to understand why Zyngo is a game of skill while other, apparently similar, games are games of chance, and I'm pretty certain that in most jurisdictions (including the USA) you'd need an online gaming license to run a site devoted to playing Zyngo for cash.    I'm sure you would in the UK, where I live.   And I'm equally certain that skill plays a greater role in determining the outcome of, for example, a game of Texas Hold Em or Backgammon or Bridge than it does in determining the outcome of a game of Zyngo.

To add to the confusion, LL won't pre-approve games -- you have to make one and wait for someone to AR it before they investigate.   

 

[Jesica Dragovar]

from what I've seen as long as the games involve skill they're ok, non skill games are also ok as long as no Lindens are exchanged 

[redxrob]

With all that said I have found loads of Casino's popping up all over the place so LL must not care anymore about Casino's as it is very essay to found one now just tape game in to the search box and you will found 100's of them so where do's that put us now?.

[Innula Zenovka]

The question is what sort of games are they?   There's a few games, for reasons that must make sense to LL, if not to me, that are classified as games of skill, and they're ok.   And there's nothing to stop someone, I suppose, from running a casino which gives out prizes and payouts, so long as you don't have to pay to enter it (that is, simply as a means to drive traffic).

But certainly it's against ToS to run what most people would recognise as a casino game, at least if people are wagering money on it.    

It's also almost certainly against the law in the jurisdiction where the casino's operator resides.  I'm in the UK, for example, and, even if LL were cool about it, I'd be breaking English law if I ran any form of internet gambling operation without a licence.

As it is, though, even though, in reality,  I'd probably be able to get a licence to run an on-line gambling site as a franchise from one of the main EU operators, I couldn't show LL my licences and expect to be allowed to run roulette games in SL.

[Bree Giffen]

How about if someone makes a breedable horse pet type game where the horses can be used for horse racing that can be bet on?