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Search: Today's Release

by Linden on ‎07-08-2010 11:13 AM

Following  on from the previous blog post discussing the work we're doing to fix search - today we're happy to announce the full release of our fixes and improvements.

Perhaps the most important part of today's release is the fix for the bug that was causing some parcels  to be dropped from the search index The fix involved replacing legacy components of the Search system which has had the added benefit of  greatly improving the speed at which the Search index gets updated. In other words, changes you make will be reflected by Search much more rapidly! This new system also brings us the increased dependability and consistency we need for Search.

Index Generation

Until this week, updates could take 72-96 hours to fully propagate in Search.

This meant that new parcels and regions would take a while to  show up in Search and merchants editing their search listings were not  able to monitor their changes in a timely fashion. By comparison the new  system updates in under 12 hours! (Plus, we plan to cut that in half in the upcoming weeks!)

Spam

Also in  this release are improved methods to deal with Search spam, starting  with keyword stuffing (using large numbers of words, often the same or very similar and often not related to the location itself). You should  therefore notice that fewer of the top ranking results will look like  they were written solely to game the rankings. Increasingly, if you add  excessive numbers of keywords this may count against your ranking. Try  to use fewer and more accurate keywords, including key phrases, to  increase your relevance. If you would like to refresh your memory on  best practices, please read our guidelines.

Improvements and Fixes List

More improvements include:

    ◦    Improve search listing page generation

     ◦   Increase crawl update speed and reliability

    ◦    Remove picks data

    ◦    Increase search index size

    ◦    Adjust column headers for events

    ◦    Exclude parcels for  private sale in general search

    ◦    Activate arrow keys for  browsing Viewer results

Bug fixes include:

    ◦    Results  appearing with "None" text

    ◦    Eliminate misleading result  count estimates

    ◦    Re-index groups missing from Search

     ◦   Eliminate English spelling suggestions for non-English users.

     ◦   Encode special characters in V2 results

More Improvements ahead

We've had reports that the current  maturity filter does not prevent all adult content from being shown only  to Residents who've asked for adult content. Our next projects include  ensuring that the maturity filters work the way our Residents expect  them to, across search results, classifieds, and events. We have also  heard from people who would like to be able to browse certain types of  content and restrict their search to specific collections before they  search. Although we don't like the idea of showing empty Search pages to  Searchers, we love the idea of having browsable collection options  available to everyone who launches Search. So, we'll be designing and testing options for that, too!

Please note: that during this first release of the new system, it could take up to 48 hours for the index to be fully populated.

Comments
by Honored Member Ciaran Laval on ‎07-08-2010 12:04 PM

When will the result set be complete because I have multiple parcels not showing at all now, which is worse than the situation was before you fixed it, then I just had a few with the maturity ratings bug.

by Advisor Ann Otoole on ‎07-08-2010 12:17 PM

You knocked me out of of search.

I have no spam. I have always played by all the rules.

You will explain exactly when my parcels will return to search as they  were before.

I see you decided to put 3D Concepts back in search.

by Linden on ‎07-08-2010 12:19 PM

Hi Ciaran & Ann,

Great questions.  We’ve added the answer to your question into the original post.

"Please note that during this first release of the new system, it could  take up to 48 hours for the index to be fully populated."

Thank you for your patience with these changes

by Member Couldbe Yue on ‎07-08-2010 12:23 PM

so, you've decided to penalise people who sell a wide variety of things?  So if you're using parcel objects to determine search I can't even just stop mentioning them in the ads, I've got to stop selling them so I'm not penalised for the limited number of items I am allowed to mention in my parcel description.

my cup runneth over.

by Member Marielle Caerndow on ‎07-08-2010 12:39 PM

A technical question:

My (alt's) parcel has dropped from rank #1 to the last (yes, lowest possible) rank today. OK when search  needs time to update - but right now my parcel IS visible in search - only it looks 'crippled' (beside it's move from #1 to #last). Here how it looks:

Normally results of search are displayed in the form

     -ParcelName-                                             -RegionName (x,y,z)

     -ParcelDescription-

The new result for my land looks

     -"Region:" RegionName-

     -ParcelName-

Has this crippled display of my land to do with that it needs time to update, or went something wrong with my land ? (And please donn't tell me to open a ticked, i still have one open fro 2 weeks)

Thank you

http://blogs.secondlife.com/message/289103#289103

by Honored Resident Starship Jefferson on ‎07-08-2010 01:16 PM

Does a line of communication exist between the search team and support? It's just that the replies to support tickets on the subject of search are truly absolutely completely random which I think is shocking.

You write in yesterdays blog announcment that you became aware of Jira issues during June, but hundreds of support tickets must have been filed, (and countless hours of Live Chat) on those issues during April and May while you were busy denying that the search was borked. (I was told once by support and once by Live Chat that there were no known issues with the search)

EDIT: Just to add; the residents of SL deserve that you be straight with them in the future, in the very least about issues that directly affect their livelihoods.

EDIT 2: I do know how hard you Lindens work btw - I really don't mean to sound ungrateful. I just think you could have handled the whole fiasco a lot better - I know for a fact that I am far from being the only person who has felt very upset, not so much by the fact that the search was borked - these things happen - but by the fact that it has been impossible to find out what is going on with it.

by Member Mimika Oh on ‎07-08-2010 01:18 PM

My business has decreased by more than 80% suddenly when you "improved" search some months ago. I don't and never have gamed search, but simply listed what I have for sale. How is this right?

by Member Mimika Oh on ‎07-08-2010 01:20 PM

Exactly for me too! My business hit a wall.

by Member Vryl Valkyrie on ‎07-08-2010 01:35 PM

Thank you very much .. I'm in search again after 10 long tortious weeks of not being there.  Let's hope it works for everyone else too, such as Ann Otoole and all the others.

by Honored Resident Ayesha Lytton on ‎07-08-2010 02:40 PM

Hi, PLEASE look at the search results for "land for sale" and "rent land". Previously I was in the top 3 for these. Now I am nowhere to be found - but neither are any other land companies. Instead there are a couple of individual lots for sale and then a bunch of random regions listed - no parcel titles or anything. This won't help anyone who is looking for land!

by Member Phoebe Avro on ‎07-08-2010 03:04 PM

Your new search does not work all the shops that have pushed me and other "good quality" shops down are using massive keyword spam in the objects shown in search!

You can not create a search for sl that works its imposible so stop waisting time money and effort!

Only one way to make an effective search and that is to send Lindens out to visit every place in the search and rank those places according to some points system, there is no other way possible and that's a FACT!!!!!!!!!

by Member Phoebe Avro on ‎07-08-2010 03:16 PM

One very simple way to fix the profile picks problem that others have posted in the forums is to make them no mod i.e. when someone makes a profile pick it should not be editable i can not understand why this is possible!

The paid picks thing is easy to solve just ban it and anyone caught doing it is banned from search till such time they have stopped doing it!

by Linden on ‎07-08-2010 03:21 PM

Hi Couldbe,

No, the changes made are not directed towards shop owners who have unrelated items listed i.e. shoes, cars, elephants, waffles.

This is more aimed towards people who make parcel descriptions like:

WAFFLES WAFFLES WAFFLES WAFFLES WAFFLES

by Member Phoebe Avro on ‎07-08-2010 03:29 PM

so why has my shop dropped from number 3 to number 7 in the related search when i have a real discripion an no spam? search gothic furniture    I am The house of Avro

by Member Phoebe Avro on ‎07-08-2010 03:36 PM

I don't mean any disrespect here but i feel LL needs to check the qualifications of the people on the search team!

I say this because I have worked within the IT industry for a long time and have seen many people in jobs that should not be there! You know what I am saying I hope!

by Honored Resident Latif Khalifa on ‎07-08-2010 03:43 PM

This is the worst "relevance" update in the history of the SL search. We are down to "black magic" for how the search results are sorted.

Don't take my word for it? Try searching for "boots" and see how relevant the top result is. All top 20 really.

by Member Marielle Caerndow on ‎07-08-2010 03:44 PM

Alexa, it would be very helpful for basically everybody to how 'strict' the search is here.

Example: "Shoes shoes shoes" might get a penalty,

would:"Women shoes, men shoes, gowns and tuxedos"  be already a no-go (because it has 'shoes' 2 times in) ?

PS: I've watched the search for 2 hours now and see it's still changing. I think we (shop-/land-owners) should give the update the required 48 hours as mentioned. I understand how everyone who is affected feels, since i share the fate. But on the other hand, we suffered for some weeks...waiting the next 48 hours is peanuts (gallows humor) )

by Honored Resident Paulo Dielli on ‎07-08-2010 03:47 PM

I agree. Especially for keyword stuffing it should be made clear what is allowed and what not. I make outdoor furniture, beach furniture and patio furniture. Is that allowed in a land name or description?

by Honored Resident Kittrannia Cassini on ‎07-08-2010 03:49 PM

Could someone on the search team please explain to me how showing page after page after page of GROUPS helps shoppers find SHOPS??

p.s.

My own shop has completely dissappeared AGAIN!!!!!!!!

You may as well remove the ALL search tab if this is how it is going to function or add a "shopping" category as a default search filter.

by Honored Member Ciaran Laval on ‎07-08-2010 03:54 PM

Alexa, it would be very helpful for basically everybody to how 'strict' the search is here.

Example: "Shoes shoes shoes" might get a penalty,

would:"Women shoes, men shoes, gowns and tuxedos"  be already a no-go (because it has 'shoes' 2 times in) ?

This!!!! Will "Medieval Weapons, Medieval Clothing, Medieval Buildings" be punished, this is important.

by Member Deltango Vale on ‎07-08-2010 04:01 PM

I don't want to jump the gun, but search has gone haywire. It worked fine last night. Today it's out to lunch. Top result in All for historic mainland is Doctor Who online. Teething pains, perhaps?

by Resident Wendy Fiertze on ‎07-08-2010 04:29 PM

Ok it's about time this was sorted now my club is all over the place in the search.

What the hell is going on. for god sake get it sorted. 

by Member Phoebe Avro on ‎07-08-2010 06:05 PM

Sea Linden Please reply to this, my shop under ther search  gothic furniture has just dropped to number 7 it was number 3, and when i look at the places that are now above me the number one place has just a list of keywords in its land description and every prim shown in search has keyword spam

I followed your rules i have a real description and a few keywords following it in my land description

so why has my shop dropped?

I Sell very high quality items i don't game the search but others that are are now above me?

so please state what you are doing and do I need to leave sl and close my club that keeps noobs in sl

if you dont want me please say so and i will go !!!

and the spell checker is borked too btw

Edited because i was asked by LL to remove caps ^^

by Member Phoebe Avro on ‎07-08-2010 06:06 PM

There is a golden rule don't try and fix what is not broken ok the search was not perfect and it can never be unless LL do what i posted above!

Many people have left sl because of this borkup already how many more do you want to leave and its not just shops and creators but hangouts and rp and all other sorts of places

LL need to see what side their bread is buttered otherwise there will be no one in sl but a few Lindens

by Member Vryl Valkyrie on ‎07-08-2010 08:11 PM

I'm not number one in search and I don't care if I am.  I'm just thankful to be in search after not being in search for over 2 months now.  Just report people who game search.. simple. LL cannot be Omnipresence.  The new Search is so much better.  I couldn't be happier.

by Member Lionheart Milena on ‎07-08-2010 08:23 PM

What about parcels with tons of objects with

WAFFLES WAFFLES WAFFLES WAFFLES WAFFLES WAFFLES

in their Name and

WAFFLES WAFFLES WAFFLES WAFFLES WAFFLES WAFFLES

in the object's description?

Currently those results seem to dominate the results. The parcels name and description comply, but the object spam seems to win over the search engine. Those who don't spam and comply with the Search Guidelines, appear below the object spammers.

Please feel free to contact me inworld to give you a few examples.

by Member Vryl Valkyrie on ‎07-08-2010 08:42 PM

Abuse report.

by Recognized Resident Alexith Destiny on ‎07-08-2010 09:20 PM

My parcel was also dropped in the most recent update of search, so I am anxiously hoping that it is restored at some point in the next 48 hours.

This has been going on for too long. If LL can fix search to the point where it is no longer poisoning business, then those of us that have toughed out this horrible time can hopefully claw our way back.

Even though there is so much that requires explanation and resolution, there at least seems to be more of a commitment evident in the last few blog posts to providing some tangible information on what is going on. I'm appreciative of that and I hope it continues.

by Member Rene Erlanger on ‎07-08-2010 10:01 PM

One of LL's main problems with this entire SEARCH system is to include an ALL tab ("Any Category" tab in 1.23 Viewers).....and making it the default. What purpose does it serve to have Regions,Groups, Profiles,Places, Events & Wiki listings all being returned under this 1 tab, when they each have their individual tab anyway ? It's a nonsense...it's trying to being extra clever when in actuality it harms the entire system as it's the default tab. It just skews the results...you've had issues with Events being dominant, you've had issues with Profiles (due to Picks) being dominant....now it seems we have a Armada of Regions listing very high.

Just scrap the ALL (Any Category) Search tab - there is no real useful or valid reason for having all variants being part of some Scotch Broth soup of results!

You can have individual tabs

Places- Classified Adverts - Events -Land Sales -People - Group -Wiki....side by side tabs..doesn't matter which is the default. (i.e which tab the mouse cursor defaults to when opening the Search UI...at the moment it is is ALL tab)

If you're searching for a Shop or Product...you use Places Search tab

If you're searching Events...you use the Events tab

If you're looking for Land Sale - then use Land sale tab

If you're renting Land....that should be included in Places Search

People, Groups & Wiki are self explanatory

Also return Classifieds, Land Sale & Events tabs to the old format which still can be viewed in the old 1.23 Viewers with a 100 per page results listing. It should be de-googlefied and stand alone.

The only parts needed for you GSA 6 engine should be Regions, Places,Groups,People, Wiki

Stop P!ssing about trying to fit a square peg into a round hole! You are not serving your consumers and you're certainly not serving your Customer base (SL Businesses Land & Content)

by Honored Resident Quacken Nightfire on ‎07-08-2010 11:26 PM

Example: "Shoes shoes shoes" might get a penalty,

would:"Women shoes, men shoes, gowns and tuxedos"  be already a no-go (because it has 'shoes' 2 times in) ?

I would also like to hear an official answer to this question. Thanks, sea/Alexa.

by Advisor Catwise Yoshikawa on ‎07-08-2010 11:33 PM

Still don't get it... still searching a simple word "neko" (all tab, any category, as I always did) and the first places don't even have that word in description O_o

At least now I'm in search if I write my store's name. But that's not enough.

by Advisor Ann Otoole on ‎07-08-2010 11:48 PM

Thank you very much .. I'm in search again after 10 long tortious weeks of not being there.  Let's hope it works for everyone else too, such as Ann Otoole and all the others.

Let's wait 7 days and see how things rank up after all the not for sale object spammers get indexed. Then decide how well it works. If this system is back to ranking not for sale objects then it is going to be spam life again like late 2007.

And yes we need a specific Abuse Report category for search gaming so the Search Team can spend time traveling the grid looking at all the various ways people bypass their code and game the system.

by Advisor Ann Otoole on ‎07-08-2010 11:51 PM

Can you please get the damn wiki out of search unless someone wants the wiki searched?

by Member Rene Erlanger on ‎07-09-2010 12:20 AM

to Sea & Alexxa Linden

Your previous blogs are full of these marvellous improvements that this New Search is supposed to provide....yet again in this latest one! I would have thought you'd have learnt your lesson from all the previous overhyped blogs!!

The bottom line is that Linden Lab has left us with a crippled Search system for 3.5 months now...and it includes various categories, not just keyword search...but also the returned results of Events, Classifieds and Land Sales in Viewer 2.0

Your previous GSA 5 Search Engine whilst not perfect (parts were gamed e.g Picks) delivered better results to both consumers and SL Businesses. That's an undeniable fact. It might have not been as sophisticated or provided LL with as many Optimisers to play with....but in the main, Search worked!

You could still have used GSA 5 and killed keyword stuffing as well lower the weighting for Picks (like Traffic) to make it not worth gaming....instead you chose to shop for an over complex Search engine which is likely not suitable for SL at all........and one which you have not correctly optimise for during 3.5 months!

During that time, lots of SL businesses have shut up shop! If you begin to see a reduction in future land tier incomes....you know why! Shops are not going to stay open with little visibility, little traffic and little sales...and be expected to swallow Land tiers indefinitely.

by Honored Resident Cindy Bolero on ‎07-09-2010 02:13 AM

Yay!  A great improvement!  Yes, there appears to still be some anomalies but things are looking up. Wooot!

NOTE: This may be a temporary thing or another glitch:

Check your parcel teleports from Search!  Some TPs are landing me and guests in a far corner of the sim!

It appears to happen to parcels that have no landing point set. I won't know till Search updates again whether or not setting a landing point stopped the tps to the region corner.

I also have a parcel appearing in Search without "Show in Search..." box checked. It must be a show in search object making that happen which I think was in a post above somewhere.

No matter these little burps, its good to have Search at least closer to working for normal for us again. Broken Search had cost me hundreds of dollars. I could not have held on much longer.

by Honored Resident Maniac Choche on ‎07-09-2010 03:31 AM

Hello,

Sadly the problem with those changes is a little bit  bigger  than wrong positions or bad relevancy. By removing pick camping  , you have destroyed another way of people to make some money in SL.  Now store owners should invest in classifieds, and all those money go to  LL pockets , not to residents. This will strike a blow to the economy  again. Some people don't want to spend RL money in SL , it's time to  understand that. But some want to invest and not to give them to LL but  to the people. Let's take Google for example , you can pay to a popular  website to post your links , and this will bring you on better positions  (higher PageRank) in the search. It's called , link exchange, and it's  not a gamming. Picks where something very simmilar to link exchange, but  now it's gone. I think you get the idea..

Best regards

by Contributor Dilbert Dilweg on ‎07-09-2010 04:30 AM

I see a pretty big flaw in this release. If you search for MALL reults return regions with MALL in their name.  snuffing ouT parcels.  So Basicly you could rule the list by key wording your region Name. Heh way to go! wonder if it will be worth the 100 bux for name change HEH.

Region name trumps all

by Honored Resident Antonio Asano on ‎07-09-2010 04:56 AM

Sea.

I was on nr 1 with my skybox rentals for months. I rent over 500 skyboxes, 19 sims. Now I am nowhere to be found. Visitors in my shop dropped from 180 a day to almost none.

All the HippoRent signs that I am using have keywords in their description field. But only like : "skybox skyboxes apartments land for rent property rentals", that's all. Is that also considered gaming, when 500 boards have this in their description? Do I need to remove all these keywords, or is this o.k. ? When this is considered gaming traffic, then why is there a description field??  That would mean I can only add a description to one rental board, because I don't know what to add to the rest of them then ???

Please explain. ty

by Member Vryl Valkyrie on ‎07-09-2010 05:07 AM

That's not the same as putting "skybox skybox skybox skybox skybox skybox skybox" on one prim over and over

by Member Phil Deakins on ‎07-09-2010 07:03 AM

Many of the 'faults' stated so far could be dealt with at a stroke. In the past I've argued that there is no need at all for the Any Category option and, if it must be included, it should not be the default. I've only heard one stated reason for its existance - so that new people can see the range of things that SL has - and I don't consider that to be a reason at all. New people need only see the tabs (new people use V2) to see the range of things that SL has much more readily and easily. I can't imagine any reason why anyone would intentionally search with the Any Category option, other than it's the default but that isn't an intentional selection.

With the V2 going over to opening a search box instead of having to do a search for it to open, any "new user" reason is well and truly buried.

I would think that most searches are done for places, so that should be the default. Any Category has no useful purpose and it does get in the way - a lot.

by Member Phoebe Avro on ‎07-09-2010 07:33 AM

Actually Rene remove the search all and add some other choices that we already have in the land settings, as you know we have a list shopping, hangout etc and yet those are not reflected in the search choices apart from the places tab maybe as you said change some of the current choices and/or rename some of them

by New Resident Maxus Firehawk on ‎07-09-2010 08:52 AM

Sea.Linden,

I wanted to reply to this post privately, however I can't figure out how to that.

I have been checking the keyword "escorts" or "escort" since I read this blog post, the search has been changing while using the Any category which most would use as many aren't aware of the drop down arrow to narrow down the search in the All tab...

My question is this, in the current search at this time, how is it that this escort club (.:smileyvery-happy:IRTY DIAMONDS CLUB:. Escort escorts sex hure nutten voice cam)is in the number 2 position when they are using 2 camping benches, that I have reported several times??

Reward those that are using illegal camping benches to game traffic. (shaking my head)

Hopefully, they will disappear in the next sweep of keywords

by Honored Member Ciaran Laval on ‎07-09-2010 01:54 PM

I would think that most searches are done for places, so that should be the default. Any Category has no useful purpose and it does get in the way - a lot.

Places should be the default category because that's the category people pay to be listed in.

by Honored Resident Sweet Valentine on ‎07-09-2010 02:02 PM

Now will Linden Labs refund our Classified ads and our Parcel directory fees for the past 3 months of us not being found in Search?? I paid for nothing I would like to be refunded ( i know they won't ) but it would be a GOOD customer service gesture..... it is the least you can do for almost killing off our businesses.

by Advisor Ann Otoole on ‎07-09-2010 02:03 PM

I can see that parcels with less stuff rank higher. So people with a lot of stuff are penalized under certain conditions. This is wrong and is the core reason why the GSA is incompatible with a virtual world content sales based economy. It doesn't always work this way but I am seeing the ratio thing is in play here and it has a negative effect.

Test Case: Two parcels. One is 256 in a G sim. One is 8192 in a M sim. One particular word not really all that common but has enough coverage across SL for this test. The control keyword is in both parcel descriptions. One test item in each parcel with that keyword and set to search and for sale (happens to be a freebie because it is a control subject for testing). The tiny 256 parcel ranks on page 2. The 8192 with lots more stuff ranks at the bottom on page 3.

Tell us again LL why we should be renting large plots from you? We do better by paying you less? Is this some sort of weird new corporate policy? lol j/k

I do see improvements but there is still a lot of opportunity to make search a better fit for the unique use case that is Second Life. Geting rid of profile pick payola is a huge step forward.

One of the issues noted with Profile Picks is obsolescence of locations. This is a key reason I created this pjira feature request: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-11679 If we had this type of object then all the landmarks in inventories could be maintained as current and become less likely to become inventory record waste.

by Honored Member Ciaran Laval on ‎07-09-2010 02:09 PM

Maybe all ratings search should not be an option.  I also agree that it returns poor results as opposed to doing single rating search.. such as PG only or Mature only or Adult only.  This seems to be much more effective.

In otherwords, ALL Search is not the problem.  ALL ratings is.

This would severely impact reach for merchants, let people choose which ratings they want to search, as they can now, then it's the user who can decide if the search results need narrowing down.

I'm saying this as someone who is still being badly stung by the maturity ratings bug, it's still happening for my parcels.

by Member Vryl Valkyrie on ‎07-09-2010 02:24 PM

Oh ok, let the user choose which ratings to search by but not what category? LOL.  That's a double standard, Ciaran.  However, it is your opinion but don't give double standards then.. Just say you prefer that option.

Users can choose how they want to search with my proposal, which is to use single rating searches as opposed to multi.  The problem is not ALL searches.  It worked just fine before the whole GSA6 fiasco.  The problem is ALL ratings search.  Places search is total garbage.  Everything is lost in traffic and mostly is irrelevant search results.  This is one of the reasons why we need a non traffic driven search like ALL.

by Honored Member Ciaran Laval on ‎07-09-2010 02:41 PM

Oh ok, let the user choose which ratings to search by but not what category? LOL.  That's a double standard, Ciaran.  However, it is your opinion but don't give double standards then.. Just say you prefer that option.

I didn't say they shouldn't be able to search by category Vryl, I said the default should be places because that's the paid listing If they then want to choose a different category, they should be able to, if people want to change their prefs so another category is their preferred default, they should have that option too.

Users can choose how they want to search with my proposal, which is to use single rating searches as opposed to multi.  The problem is not ALL searches.  It worked just fine before the whole GSA6 fiasco.  The problem is ALL ratings search.  Places search is total garbage.  Everything is lost in traffic and mostly is irrelevant search results.  This is one of the reasons why we need a non traffic driven search like ALL.

People won't keep checking different ratings and going back to search, people will take the route of least resistance. I agree that all ratings is a problem, I still have the problem myself, but unless Linden Lab really can't fix it, I'd rather people could still tick which ratings they want to use for their search, even if it's multiple ratings.

Ack smilies are still broken, there's a simley in here, honest!

by Advisor Ann Otoole on ‎07-09-2010 02:51 PM

Disagree. The all is fine.

The search rating should default to general. Adding adult and moderate seems to screw up search in a bad way so there is work to be done around how the ratings selectors interact anyway.

The all tab should have check boxes to allow the user to deselect the categories they do not wish to see. Then we don't need tabs that cause other search systems to be used. I.e.; by doing this it wipes traffic off a places search. The sooner traffic is totally marginalized the better so we can be rid of bot nests.

The text needs to be high contrast to the background. Never surgical green on gray. We know LL likes surgical green. We get it. Put the Second Life Logo at the top instead. Then allow the results page to be designed using proper rules of web page style design for usability.

The thumbnail of the picture associated with the location, group, or person needs to be displayed in the results list. This has to do with brand recognition and is a very real requirement.

Classifieds need to be replaced with 170 * 60 banner ad images. If there is an issue over image storage/bandwidth then raise the minimum price to L$100 a week. A pittance to pay for the brand recognition psychology.

by Advisor Ann Otoole on ‎07-09-2010 02:54 PM

I created a pjira feature request for the classified ad graphical feature.

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-20179

I attached a mockup to the feature request. Go have a look. I think the mockup really shows how much this feature will add to the search experience and increase use of paid classified ads.

Be sure to vote for it while you are there!