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MB Robonaught
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Re: Help with SL Viewer Beta features

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Hi

I'd like to know when group chat lag will be fixed? A 3 minute chat lag went out with DalNet IRC back in the mid 90's :smileytongue:

It makes running an event near impossible when trying to give instructions to staff. It was fixed a year ago until LL decided to tinker with it again

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Registered: 05-26-2009

Re: Help with SL Viewer Beta features

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Torely not sure this the right place for feedback but,I know you actually listen to residents and are/were a resident for long time, so posting anyway lol.

The new beta is a huge improvement over previous versions.  Do I like it...not yet, Phoenix team still wins hands down for viewer development.  But this new LL viewer is at least "useable" which for me, previous versions were not.  It still feels clunky and disjointed though for how I use SL:

 Why are like things not all in one place, it seems I have to hunt for where things are...a couple examples:

     - group chat, ims,local chat and even notices all over the place.  Having communications in multiple spots too much for my brain also I miss incomings more often than I catch which is way annoying.

     - editing shape why is "save" not with save as and undo?

     - why is tp home on far left when your fav tps are all forced to the right?

I am spammed and there are way to many clicks to get through things:

     - I use tabbed chat, but then I still have all these tiny lil message boxes on my top right screen

     - If I open a notecard and use a link it creates a lm, but I don't want a lm for everything and end up with bunch of deletes.

     - When opening boxes I end up with a gazilion lil boxes to close from gestures, animations, notes like items coming too fast, just so much to x out of

     - Do I really need a box to pop up that tells me where I tp'd from?  I know where I was lol

Mouse moves my graphics and makes me feel seasick...I have move by arrows selected but I still get this hand cursor and graphics swing with mouse move. Is there a hidden option to disable ?

Random things like language such as..."remove rom current outfit"...is that really as clear as "take it off" and when passing items does "show" really mean "accept" to anyone? Tabbed search seemed way easier.  Web profiles not as simple to use as our old profiles. Miss having an option to open a second inventory window to move things around.  And need to have "worn" tab...you cannot move things into or out of current outfit so way less functional than "worn"

Do love love some to the feature enhancements this last year like wearing multiple layers, face tats, multiple attachments.

Hugs from a fan and appreciate all you do for SL.

 

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Registered: 02-26-2009

Re: Help with SL Viewer Beta features

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Here's my list of things I think could be improved with the new beta:

- moving stuff around in recent tab

- Indeed the multiple notifications on IM's Object interaction, group notices etc really cluther the screen.

- A better dropdown menu on rightclick. Preferable the old pie menu back (I remember you did a video on how you can fastly access things on that pie menu, and I am missing that a lot. Rightclick and hold - move to the option (example delete) then let go and action works.) does not work nice with this tiny lil menu.

- Resizable Mesh upload window, also zooming in to see your Mesh models is not enough yet.

- The new picture window is too many clicks to get to the right option.

- The camera controls are too large (Not that I use them, they are extremely clunky and primitive compared to mouse with ctrl+alt+shift but am just checking as many aspects as I can)

- I would LOVE to see extra skins, this black on green is still terrible on the eyes for me (colorblind) 

My current use: I work with Mesh, and found the official viewer the most reliable in building with Mesh. But when I am done, need to pack my building and put things for sale, I relog to Phoenix or Firestorm.

ow one last thing that I noticed with both Beta and Official release: Voice is terrible. What is broken? ANY v2 or later viewer is terrible on voice, the sound quality is terrible, like I am on an old 1930's phoneline.

This voice issue is something I notice on any v2 or later viewer (also the tpv's) and absolutely 10 times better on the older viewers (phoenix, LL viewer 1.23, snowglobe etc)

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Tamara Kuhn
Posts: 5

Re: Help with SL Viewer Beta features

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Just to say a million thank yous to LL for listening to all of us with ATI Radeon graphics cards that just couldn't cope with the later version of the series 3 viewers at all. Everything now hunky dory in the beta viewer. Thanks guys!!

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Ormand Lionheart
Posts: 62

Re: Help with SL Viewer Beta features

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Your graphics is a chip on the motherboard i assume. Woefully underpowered for SL at anything above Low Settings I think. You would need a discrete video card to run shadows and a good one at that. I suggest a desktop for SL if you don't need SL to be mobile. For shadows GTX 460 at minimum.

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SierraStyles
Posts: 4

Re: Help with SL Viewer Beta features

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Hello Torley! I have the Forestorm Beta viewer, 4.0.1, 27000. It would occasionally crash, but it was always fixable.{Clear out interent cache, close other programs running.} But now, I.m both stumped and stuck.. I was having minor issues Friday, but since yesterday, I cannot get inworld no matter what I do or change. I even ininstalled and reintstalled Firestorm. I miss talking with my sl friends ! Can this be fixed? Thank You!

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Registered: 09-15-2009

Re: Help with SL Viewer Beta features

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It doesn't make much sense to ask a Linden employee about a non-Linden viewer.  Contact the Phoenix developers for FIrestorm assistance^^

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Kacie Zapedzki
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Re: Get Error message "Can't locate items in database"

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Yes!  This is happening to me every single time I change a shirt, pants etc.  SL puts on a white t-shirt and pants and I have to take them off every time too.  Also when I log back into sl, I have white pants on.  It's really bothersome!!!.  Not to mention the 50 pairs of "new shirts" and "new pants" in my Lost & found folder.

Is there a way to fix this bug?