Lindens Maestro Linden Posted October 1, 2013 Lindens Share Posted October 1, 2013 Second Life Server (main channel) No updates are planned for the main channel this week. Second Life RC BlueSteel, RC Magnum, and RC LeTigre: All three RC channels are getting a new server maintenance project. This project includes a fix for a group notice delivery issue, introduces a missing JSON operation to LSL, and includes preparatory work for an upcoming viewer with scene loading (interest list) improvements. https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_BlueSteel/13#13.09.27.281745 https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_LeTigre/13#13.09.27.281745 https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_Magnum/13#13.09.27.281745 Scheduled Wednesday 2013-10-02 07:00-10:30 PDT We will be monitoring this thread as the code gets released, so feel free to note any observations you have about the server updates. If you have a specific bug you'd like to report, please file a Jira. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuriko Nishi Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 dammit no restarts! i was hoping to get to a fast ping server after this weeks rolling restart ah well, another week of packet loss and pings over 300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norton Burns Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 A rolling restart will put you right back on the same server. Manually restart the region if you want a new server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayesha Askham Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Norton I would not ordinarily disagree with you on most topics in SL, but in the last few months, with every rolling restart on Main Server I have found our region to be on a new server. Not occasionally but EVERY week, a new server. This situation was not always thus but it is so now. Yoriko Is your sim ping still high? As of yesterday at about 9am Pacific mine returned to normal values everywhere I went. I do not know what changed...maybe the US Admin shutdown is responsible for lower net traffic? :smileysurprised: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norton Burns Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Hmm... interesting. TBH, I haven't tested it recently - it just always was the case. Apologies if I'm in error. I'll have to start paying more attention ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lydia Craig Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Yesterdays restarts, apparently did not go well, as we are getting reports from through sl of massive lag, failed teleports, slow or aborted ports, massive crashes, huge inventory problems, and massive script times all over sl, along with larger than normal memory allocations. These problems begain over the weekend with the run up to the restart and have only gotten worse so they may be an issue of server setting rather than restart code or changes. At this point sl performance is worse than it has been in years and unless this matter is fixed we all are going to suffer greatly. Hopefully, LL will take the time to address and deal with these issues rather than rushing headling into the next round of changes as they have in the past. Given the losses in online numbers that we have seen over the last six months, LL cannot continue to let this situation persist or more will follow along with more close businesses and abandoned land, for as things are today neither have much value and these issues need to be addressed and dealt with before a bad restart turns into a general disaster. Hopefully, LL will listen and fix these problems but given their past history that is rather doubtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norton Burns Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I think if there really were grid-wide issues, there would have been more than one post on it by now. I'd have a go at rebooting your puter & router, maybe look at your script count & lower your draw distance, as simple 1st tweaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lydia Craig Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I think at this point no one bothers to complain because they have learned that it will produce nothing but excuses and suggestions that it is really our connections or computers. The truth is this is happening all over sl my connection is solid and my setting are basically the same as they were last week before this mess began. But really it is probably unreasonable to expect stable service from Linden Lab for player needs are not a priority with them and it has yet to dawn on them that players are the ones who pay their wages and that paying players are fast becoming a vanishing breed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norton Burns Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Thing is, that I hear similar complaints all day, every day - & the number of times it does turn out to be an LL issue is really quite tiny. Everybody says their connection is great - even those on a 3G tether or wifi in a coffee bar. Did you actually try the 3 simple things I listed? Unless you are willing to do some basic troubleshooting yourself, it's very hard to make any kind of progress whatsoever. Just sitting there saying "It's all LL's fault" really gains nothing without solid evidence to support it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrie Juran Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Lydia Craig wrote: Yesterdays restarts, apparently did not go well, as we are getting reports from through sl of massive lag, failed teleports, slow or aborted ports, massive crashes, huge inventory problems, and massive script times all over sl, along with larger than normal memory allocations. These problems begain over the weekend with the run up to the restart and have only gotten worse so they may be an issue of server setting rather than restart code or changes. At this point sl performance is worse than it has been in years and unless this matter is fixed we all are going to suffer greatly. Hopefully, LL will take the time to address and deal with these issues rather than rushing headling into the next round of changes as they have in the past. Given the losses in online numbers that we have seen over the last six months, LL cannot continue to let this situation persist or more will follow along with more close businesses and abandoned land, for as things are today neither have much value and these issues need to be addressed and dealt with before a bad restart turns into a general disaster. Hopefully, LL will listen and fix these problems but given their past history that is rather doubtful. Do you still feel that all these problems are being caused by the Data Base? It's been a long time since you said anything about that. Or do you think these new problems are being caused by something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dd Temin Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Lydia, I am in SL every day of the week for several hours...scripting, building, flying, boating, auto racing . Usually after 9PM PST time. I have not experienced any of the issues that you are currently reporting. I am estate manager of 2 private islands and also own 1/2 of a mainland sim. I use ultra mode and view distance of 256 meters. I7 pc and nvidia gt 550TI graphics. Viewer = cool viewer for last 6 years I am however located in the USA........perhaps you are located out of the usa? I have noticed lots of post in the forums lately about bottlenecks on internet lines to second life causing excessive ping times during certain hours (above.net was mentioned as the trouble spot). Another resident that I know uses the same 2 private island sims and does have a lots of viewer crashing problems especially on sim crossings. We think that residents problem to be caused by excessive Inventory size (70,000 + items). Because, if that resident uses and alternate Avatar with very low inventory count on the same PC/ viewer all viewer crashing problems are gone. we did this same test with several different viewers. (both avatars have same attachments and very low script time. (0.035 ms total) Also note this resident is in Europe .... so much longer ping times involved. I personally have 28,000 inventory items myself and dont have any issues with sim crossings. Dont get me wrong... SL does have lots of technical problems with viewers and server updates that are un-ending I am just saying that I personally have not experenced any new serious problems in the last few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayesha Askham Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Dear All Being in the UK with a moderately scripted (70) avatar with a 45K inventory, it would be expected that I might have issues. Other than the Abovenet server latency issue that magically disappeared when the US admin shutdown began, or the month of October started (you choose), I experience no issues this week that were not present last week or before. Whatever the cause of the outrageously high pings to Europe, the UK and Australia (those are the regions that I KNOW had issues, there were almost certainly others) I'd say SL was running reasonably well, for a given value of well. The http issues, sim crossing issues, interest list issues and materials issues are all known, and will be fixed no doubt in the fullness of time. The issues that those such as Lydia suffer probably will not until Linden Lab also employ psychiatrists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrie Juran Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Ayesha Askham wrote: Dear All Being in the UK with a moderately scripted (70) avatar with a 45K inventory, it would be expected that I might have issues. Other than the Abovenet server latency issue that magically disappeared when the US admin shutdown began, or the month of October started (you choose), I experience no issues this week that were not present last week or before. Whatever the cause of the outrageously high pings to Europe, the UK and Australia (those are the regions that I KNOW had issues, there were almost certainly others) I'd say SL was running reasonably well, for a given value of well. The http issues, sim crossing issues, interest list issues and materials issues are all known, and will be fixed no doubt in the fullness of time. The issues that those such as Lydia suffer probably will not until Linden Lab also employ psychiatrists. LL's actual name does make me wonder at times............... "Linden Research, Inc., d/b/a Linden Lab," http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linden_Lab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norton Burns Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 From the UK, I have been seeing better ping times on Speedtest to Dallas recently, I used to show about 270ms, now down to 130 - http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3013527898 which now pretty much corresponds to what I see for a sim ping inworld. The UL speeds are also showing a lot better than they used to. My line is advertised as being 120/12, but there is a glitch on my gateway that appears to QoS Speedtest to 50, even if I test to a nearpoint, so I'm not at all worried about the UL being pinned - plenty to spare for SL, of course. ;-) For reference, using http://softdallas.speedtest.net & hitting the "Preferred" button, not "Recommended" is the simplest way to test directly to Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuriko Nishi Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 ayesha, for me nothing has changed... just did a tracert: 3 26 ms 26 ms 26 ms ge-7-1-6-0.xd01.weham.de.hansenet.net [62.109.11 8.86] 4 26 ms 27 ms 25 ms ae0-0.pr02.weham.de.hansenet.net [213.191.66.173 ] 5 26 ms 27 ms 27 ms rmwc-hmbg-de04-chan-0-0.nw.mediaways.net [213.20 .88.206] 6 43 ms 42 ms 42 ms xmwc-lond-uk01-chan-1-0.nw.mediaways.net [195.71 .254.130] 7 42 ms 42 ms 41 ms rmwc-lond-uk02-gigaet-0-1-0.nw.mediaways.net [62 .54.30.198] 8 46 ms 45 ms 45 ms ge-3-3-0.mpr1.lhr3.uk.above.net [195.66.236.76] 9 45 ms 45 ms 46 ms ge-2-2-0.mpr1.lhr3.uk.above.net.24.125.64.in-add r.arpa [64.125.24.217] 10 119 ms 120 ms 122 ms xe-4-3-0.cr2.dca2.us.above.net [64.125.24.41] 11 160 ms 166 ms 159 ms xe-0-2-0.cr2.iah1.us.above.net [64.125.28.50] 12 203 ms 177 ms 177 ms ae0.mpr4.phx2.us.above.net [64.125.28.73] 13 272 ms 272 ms 270 ms xe-1-0-0.mpr3.phx2.us.above.net [64.125.27.97] 14 332 ms 265 ms 267 ms 64.124.161.254.allocated.above.net [64.124.161.2 54] 15 * * * Zeitueberschreitung der Anforderung. 16 * * * Zeitueberschreitung der Anforderung. 17 266 ms 260 ms 257 ms sim10308.agni.lindenlab.com [216.82.50.30] it will get even worse later in the day... maybe you´ve just not checked the right (bad) sims? try this sim sometime edit: typos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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