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[Perrie Juran Member]

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Cincia Singh wrote:

Lydia, I am intrigued. I haven't found anywhere in SL that behaves like you describe. Could you post some region names so I can go experience all these difficulties you describe?

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Interestingly enough, I don't believe I have ever seen Lydia (and Lydia, please correct me if I am wrong) post her system specs, which viewer she uses, her internet connection, results of speed and ping tests, etc etc.  It's always, "I am having major Linden Lab caused problems" and/or "I am hearing reports of others having major problems." 

I don't believe I have ever seen a shred of documentation from her.

For all we know she could be trying to log in on an old Tandy computer with a 300 Baud modem.

[Oskar Linden Linden]

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Ansariel Hiller wrote:

That's caused by pathfinding. One of the list of long-known and still unfixed nasty bugs in pathfinding...

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It's not a bug. It is an incompatability between havok versions. Havok is what models physics on the simulator side. Mesh objects (vehicles made of mesh or maybe like mesh bullets) will give that error when going 'backwards in versions'. So if a mesh object goes from a Pathfinding region to a non Pathfinding region the older version of Havok cannot handle it. This issue will be resolved once the Pathfinding code is live everywhere. Until then it will be an awkward experience and we apologize for that.

__Oskar

[Ayesha Askham]

@Oskar

What Anne-Marie and Ansariel are talking about may not be a bug to you guys at The Lab, but that is not how it is seen out here in virtual land.

I suspect that by the end of tomorrow's LeTigre roll, we will have a whole host of bugs and unexpected behaviours to relate.  Still there's no gain without pain, they say.

Soon Norman Wisdom will be whizzing around our sim like there's no tomorrow.  "Mr Grimsdale????"  (with apologies to Inara Pey).  Oh Yippee.

It would've been nice to see some acknowledgement of the failure of the SVC-7598 fix, but I guess there is another agenda at play there.  If it has NOT failed, why do we not see any change in our viewers?

[Qie Niangao Advisor]

If it were limited to Mesh vehicles only, that would be understandable, and indeed it may have been working that way in the past. But now, every scripted object is trapped at the border, Mesh or no.

[Darien Caldwell Member]

I have found a new issue which has arisen in the last two days, I can only guess it's related to today's Deploy, but it seems to affect all sims, even those not rolled today (Verified on Le Tigre, Bluesteel, Magnum, and the Release Channel):

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-8024

It's not a serious issue by any means, but certainly causing some confusion.  FYI

[WolfBaginski Bearsfoot]

According to the Status report, it took 12 hours to do the Main Channel roll-out.Even allowing for some possible delay in posting the Completion message, that's a long time.

I also saw regions indicated as down on the map, which is unusual. The in-world Map system doesn't detect these things rapidly. Most slip between the scane.

I can't be certain, but it looked like they had a bad day on Tuesday. I am not lookinf forward to what is looming

[Ayesha Askham]

@Wolf

ahh, there is no end to their power.   The Main Server roll took 12 hours, it seems, and yet that post was not visible to me until  a few moments ago.  They did NOT post that "completed" notice at the time it states...I looked earlier today (BST) and despite several refreshes it simply was NOT there.

Also I now see that this week's RC rolls actually happened last week:

"[Posted 9:40pm PDT, 26 June 2012] We will be performing rolling restarts for regions on the Magnum, BlueSteel, and LeTigre RC server channels Wednesday, June 20th starting at 07:00am PDT. Please save all builds and refrain from rezzing no copy objects or making inworld L$ transactions at that time."

I can no longer trust this outfit to get even their dates right so what chance is there that the complex software is right, eh?

[Maestro Linden]

Hi Qie, I imported https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-8023 after confirming that the crossing failure from PF into non-PF applies to non-mesh objects as well - this is a bug.

[Oskar Linden Linden]

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Maestro Linden wrote:

Hi Qie, I imported https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-8023 after confirming that the crossing failure from PF into non-PF applies to non-mesh objects as well - this is a bug.

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Because of this issue we are rolling Pathfinding off of Magnum. We had not yet rolled LeTigre. ALl channels will have the AvTextures project that was on BlueSteel. 

__Oskar

[Qie Niangao Advisor]

Thanks.  That's a big relief.