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The code in RC last week had some issues and cannot be promoted. There will be no Tuesday morning release this week.
 
Second Life Server (main channel)
No main channel roll this week.


Second Life RC BlueSteel
This channel as well as LeTigre contain our next step in improved region crossings. This uses a new threaded region crossing method to help make region crossings more reliable.

 

Second Life RC LeTigre
This is the same threaded region crossing code that is on BlueSteel.

 

 

Second Life RC Magnum
This code will get another chance with a few bug fixes. 

  • Features
  • New LSL function integer llSetRegionPos(vector position)
    The object with the script will move the root prim position to the given location. The position is any position within the region. If the position is below ground, it will be set to the ground level at that X,Y spot. The function has no delay or throttle.
    • Returns 1 if the object is successfully placed within 0.1 m of position.
    • Returns 0 and does not move the object if position is more than 10m off region or above 4096m.
    • Returns 0 and does not move the object if the object is dynamic (has physics enabled).
    • Returns 0 and does not move the object if the object can not move to position due to object entry rules, prim limits, bans, etc.
  • "frame_number" option added to llGetEnv()
    Returns an integer that represents the current 'frame' of the simulator. Generally only useful for specific debugging cases.
  • Bug Fixes
    • SVC-7466 A notecard holds more data than a script can read
    • SVC-7520 Keyframe motion doesn't move towards the correct position when specified time is not an exact multiple of 1/45 seconds
    • SVC-7485 llSetKeyframedMotion cannot stop animation if none is running ... sounds less important than it is ...
    • SVC-7493 Weird mesh land impact issue
    • Fixed several simulator crash bugs and potential memory leaks.
    • Fixed a notecard crashing bug.
    • SVC-7613 Greatly increased network activity since the 1/18/12 RC channel rolling restart
    • SVC-7608 Sims are not visible when diagonally opposed. (this was not a simulator-side fix, but the bug was originally visible only in the previous iteration of this project)
 

 

We will be monitoring this thread during the next week so please feel free to post issues that you feel have been introduced by the new code. Please file a JIRA for issues you find and post the JIRA link into this thread. It really helps us out. When determining if issues are relevant or not research is key. Tracking down exactly the right situation where an issue is occurring greatly speeds up the development process to get fixes in place.
I appreciate your help. Have a good week!
 
__Oskar
 
p.s. If you are interested in helping test SecondLife in beta please join the group "Second Life Beta" in-world. We also have an email list where we communicate upcoming projects and how you can help. ( https://lists.secondlife.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/server-beta ) Once a week we meet on ADITI to discuss new features, new bugs, new fixes, and other fun stuff. You are more than welcome. Information is here: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Server_Beta_User_Group
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Oskar Linden wrote:

The code in RC last week had some issues and cannot be promoted. There will be no Tuesday morning release this week.
 
Second Life Server (main channel)
No main channel roll this week.
 
So we had issues on LeTigre...were they fixed...were we told?
 
PS Oskar
 
PLEASE get someone at your end to fix this forum for IE users, it is a Right Royal Pain in the Ass.  On one occasion I managed to post without even logging in...this is not my browser.  The Fault is at your (LL) end.
 
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Hi Oscar,

I was hoping a roll for the Second Life Servers (Main Channel) was planned this week.  Since the last roll, there has been something that is definitely causing the problem we had a month ago...where the Physics FPS suddenly drops to 0-6 (sim FPS can still be close to 45) and the regions even without any agents on them come to a grinding halt . Keeping my fingers crossed maybe at the least the issue is known and a roll on the main channel will be soon..thx

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Ayesha Askham wrote:
So we had issues on LeTigre...were they fixed...were we told?
 
PS Oskar
 
PLEASE get someone at your end to fix this forum for IE users, it is a Right Royal Pain in the Ass.  On one occasion I managed to post without even logging in...this is not my browser.  The Fault is at your (LL) end.
 

The issues on RC have been fixed. The code that was on all channels last week will only be on Magnum this week. 

As for the forums I have no control over them. I'm sorry it's annoying. I would recommend having another browser handy until it does get fixed. I usually run Safari, Chrome, and FireFox at the same time because of similar reasons. One of the three will view what the other won't.

__Oskar

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@Oskar

Thanks for the reply, it is greatly appreciated...we certainly weren't seeing any issues we could tie into Server software!

On the browser issue, I had Safari, Firefox and Chrome on my last PC at one time or another but deleted Chrome because it wasn't as secure as Google claimed it to be and it caused me too many filepath conflicts.  Safari worked well but it being Apple too many other bits of software piggyback on it to be safe.  Firefox was OK, but since IE seemed to work well enough and I understood it's innards more I stayed with it.:smileysurprised:

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Tymus Tenk wrote:

Hi Oscar,

I was hoping a roll for the Second Life Servers (Main Channel) was planned this week.  Since the last roll, there has been something that is definitely causing the problem we had a month ago...where the Physics FPS suddenly drops to 0-6 (sim FPS can still be close to 45) and the regions even without any agents on them come to a grinding halt . Keeping my fingers crossed maybe at the least the issue is known and a roll on the main channel will be soon..thx



Yes same here. We have been having daily problems with that. Physics FPS drops to 0 and the Sim FPS drops to 0 and stays down there.Fluctuates between 6 and 0 but favors the 0. Makes it unable to restart on your own . sometimes can wait 10 to 20 minutes to try and load region tools to even reboot the server, And often times after a restart it will do it again after about 15 20 minutes after restart. This happens quite often.. 

The issue can happen sometimes 2 times a day.

Sure hope some sort of fix happens soon. Very frustrating

 

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@Dilbert & Tymus

Oh Lor that sounds very much as though the dreaded "Timewarp" is back.  I had thought LL had exorcised that before the end of 2011.

In my limited understanding of things I had thought that the OS upgrades to the newest Linux had been the cure.  Seems not.

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Oskar is the Blue Steel servers have been fixed check again, as of a few minutes ago they were all but unusable with the worst lag and unexpected crashes I have seen yet in sl.  Moreover they have been almost this bad for most of the last five weeks with a brief respite two weeks ago when they were apparently fixed, only to be quickly destroyed by more improvements.  The people that are paying tier for land on these servers deserve better at this point, and since both my home and the place where I make my living are on blue steel servers I have had very little income for the last several weeks and spent most of my time elsewhere or recovering from crashs and lag when I am there.  This is hardly the service I and the other paying customers deserve, and if it does not improve I see no reason to continue to pay for otherwise useless land in these area or to pay for services I am not hand have not been getting.  This is a serious problem and, if LL wishes to maintain creditability needs not only to be addressed but fixed and fixed so that it does not happen again. 

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By the way Oskar, my guess is last week's RC code is not directly responsible for this disaster, because things tended to work well till there was some server maintaince done.  Then things fell apart and got worse and worse over the week, so it is my guess that whatever work was done on the hardware triggered something in the RC code and set this cascade of trouble off.  If so this may not be so much a coding problem as a failure in communication and cooperation between two separate projects, and if so the engineers involved need to consider the most recent work done to the code on the server and not assume that what worked on their plans made days before will work now.

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Oskar, I am seeing between 700 kb/s and 1,200 kb/s of extra traffic when logged in now and the viewer log is polluted with:

2012-01-25T05:12:33Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Add region with handle: 1102810162915584 on host 216.82.42.128:12035 2012-01-25T05:12:33Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Region exists, removing it 2012-01-25T05:12:33Z INFO: process_enable_simulator: simulator_enable() Enabling 216.82.42.128:12035 with code 1514295605 2012-01-25T05:12:34Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Add region with handle: 1094014069893120 on host 216.82.37.188:13006 2012-01-25T05:12:34Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Region exists, removing it 2012-01-25T05:12:34Z INFO: process_enable_simulator: simulator_enable() Enabling 216.82.37.188:13006 with code 1514295605 2012-01-25T05:12:34Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Add region with handle: 1100611139660544 on host 216.82.45.68:13004 2012-01-25T05:12:34Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Region exists, removing it 2012-01-25T05:12:34Z INFO: process_enable_simulator: simulator_enable() Enabling 216.82.45.68:13004 with code 1514295605 2012-01-25T05:12:34Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Add region with handle: 1096213093148928 on host 216.82.42.162:13006 2012-01-25T05:12:34Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Region exists, removing it 2012-01-25T05:12:34Z INFO: process_enable_simulator: simulator_enable() Enabling 216.82.42.162:13006 with code 1514295605 2012-01-25T05:12:34Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Add region with handle: 1100611139661824 on host 216.82.41.198:13003 2012-01-25T05:12:34Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Region exists, removing it 2012-01-25T05:12:34Z INFO: process_enable_simulator: simulator_enable() Enabling 216.82.41.198:13003 with code 1514295605 2012-01-25T05:12:34Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Add region with handle: 1100611139661056 on host 216.82.45.104:13003 2012-01-25T05:12:34Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Region exists, removing it 2012-01-25T05:12:34Z INFO: process_enable_simulator: simulator_enable() Enabling 216.82.45.104:13003 with code 1514295605 2012-01-25T05:12:34Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Add region with handle: 1098412116404224 on host 216.82.44.14:13008 2012-01-25T05:12:34Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Region exists, removing it 2012-01-25T05:12:34Z INFO: process_enable_simulator: simulator_enable() Enabling 216.82.44.14:13008 with code 1514295605 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Add region with handle: 1100611139661312 on host 216.82.45.78:12035 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Region exists, removing it 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: process_enable_simulator: simulator_enable() Enabling 216.82.45.78:12035 with code 1514295605 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Add region with handle: 1098412116404992 on host 216.82.45.175:13001 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Region exists, removing it 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: process_enable_simulator: simulator_enable() Enabling 216.82.45.175:13001 with code 1514295605 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Add region with handle: 1098412116404480 on host 216.82.42.32:13001 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Region exists, removing it 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: process_enable_simulator: simulator_enable() Enabling 216.82.42.32:13001 with code 1514295605 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Add region with handle: 1100611139660032 on host 216.82.41.36:13006 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Region exists, removing it 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: process_enable_simulator: simulator_enable() Enabling 216.82.41.36:13006 with code 1514295605 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Add region with handle: 1101710651288320 on host 216.82.42.120:13006 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Region exists, removing it 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: process_enable_simulator: simulator_enable() Enabling 216.82.42.120:13006 with code 1514295605 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Add region with handle: 1097312604776704 on host 216.82.30.140:13004 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Region exists, removing it 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: process_enable_simulator: simulator_enable() Enabling 216.82.30.140:13004 with code 1514295605 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Add region with handle: 1100611139661568 on host 216.82.45.166:13002 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Region exists, removing it 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: process_enable_simulator: simulator_enable() Enabling 216.82.45.166:13002 with code 1514295605 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Add region with handle: 1098412116406272 on host 216.82.46.19:13001 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Region exists, removing it 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: process_enable_simulator: simulator_enable() Enabling 216.82.46.19:13001 with code 1514295605 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Add region with handle: 1096213093150464 on host 216.82.45.165:13002 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Region exists, removing it 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: process_enable_simulator: simulator_enable() Enabling 216.82.45.165:13002 with code 1514295605 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Add region with handle: 1100611139659776 on host 216.82.42.86:12035 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Region exists, removing it 2012-01-25T05:12:35Z INFO: process_enable_simulator: simulator_enable() Enabling 216.82.42.86:12035 with code 1514295605 2012-01-25T05:12:36Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Add region with handle: 1102810162916096 on host 216.82.37.224:13000 2012-01-25T05:12:36Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Region exists, removing it 2012-01-25T05:12:36Z INFO: process_enable_simulator: simulator_enable() Enabling 216.82.37.224:13000 with code 1514295605 2012-01-25T05:12:36Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Add region with handle: 1098412116405760 on host 216.82.45.29:12035 2012-01-25T05:12:36Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Region exists, removing it 2012-01-25T05:12:36Z INFO: process_enable_simulator: simulator_enable() Enabling 216.82.45.29:12035 with code 1514295605 2012-01-25T05:12:36Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Add region with handle: 1100611139660800 on host 216.82.45.79:13003 2012-01-25T05:12:36Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Region exists, removing it 2012-01-25T05:12:36Z INFO: process_enable_simulator: simulator_enable() Enabling 216.82.45.79:13003 with code 1514295605 2012-01-25T05:12:36Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Add region with handle: 1101710651287808 on host 216.82.42.55:13006 2012-01-25T05:12:36Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Region exists, removing it 2012-01-25T05:12:36Z INFO: process_enable_simulator: simulator_enable() Enabling 216.82.42.55:13006 with code 1514295605 2012-01-25T05:12:36Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Add region with handle: 1098412116406016 on host 216.82.42.56:13005 2012-01-25T05:12:36Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Region exists, removing it 2012-01-25T05:12:36Z INFO: process_enable_simulator: simulator_enable() Enabling 216.82.42.56:13005 with code 1514295605 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Add region with handle: 1102810162915584 on host 216.82.42.128:12035 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Region exists, removing it 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: process_enable_simulator: simulator_enable() Enabling 216.82.42.128:12035 with code 1514295605 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Add region with handle: 1100611139660544 on host 216.82.45.68:13004 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Region exists, removing it 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: process_enable_simulator: simulator_enable() Enabling 216.82.45.68:13004 with code 1514295605 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Add region with handle: 1096213093148928 on host 216.82.42.162:13006 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Region exists, removing it 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: process_enable_simulator: simulator_enable() Enabling 216.82.42.162:13006 with code 1514295605 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Add region with handle: 1100611139661824 on host 216.82.41.198:13003 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLWorld::addRegion: Region exists, removing it 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: process_enable_simulator: simulator_enable() Enabling 216.82.41.198:13003 with code 1514295605 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLCircuitData::dumpResendCountAndReset: Circuit: 216.82.44.14:13008 resent 29 packets 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLCircuitData::dumpResendCountAndReset: Circuit: 216.82.46.19:13001 resent 26 packets 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLCircuitData::dumpResendCountAndReset: Circuit: 216.82.45.29:12035 resent 30 packets 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLCircuitData::dumpResendCountAndReset: Circuit: 216.82.42.32:13001 resent 29 packets 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLCircuitData::dumpResendCountAndReset: Circuit: 216.82.41.36:13006 resent 29 packets 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLCircuitData::dumpResendCountAndReset: Circuit: 216.82.42.55:13006 resent 30 packets 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLCircuitData::dumpResendCountAndReset: Circuit: 216.82.42.56:13005 resent 30 packets 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLCircuitData::dumpResendCountAndReset: Circuit: 216.82.45.68:13004 resent 30 packets 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLCircuitData::dumpResendCountAndReset: Circuit: 216.82.45.78:12035 resent 28 packets 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLCircuitData::dumpResendCountAndReset: Circuit: 216.82.45.79:13003 resent 30 packets 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLCircuitData::dumpResendCountAndReset: Circuit: 216.82.45.104:13003 resent 30 packets 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLCircuitData::dumpResendCountAndReset: Circuit: 216.82.42.120:13006 resent 30 packets 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLCircuitData::dumpResendCountAndReset: Circuit: 216.82.30.140:13004 resent 31 packets 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLCircuitData::dumpResendCountAndReset: Circuit: 216.82.42.162:13006 resent 27 packets 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLCircuitData::dumpResendCountAndReset: Circuit: 216.82.45.165:13002 resent 30 packets 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLCircuitData::dumpResendCountAndReset: Circuit: 216.82.45.166:13002 resent 28 packets 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLCircuitData::dumpResendCountAndReset: Circuit: 216.82.45.175:13001 resent 29 packets 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLCircuitData::dumpResendCountAndReset: Circuit: 216.82.37.188:13006 resent 19 packets 2012-01-25T05:12:37Z INFO: LLCircuitData::dumpResendCountAndReset: Circuit: 216.82.37.224:13000 resent 25 packets

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Ayesha Askham wrote:

@Dilbert & Tymus

Oh Lor that sounds very much as though the dreaded "Timewarp" is back.  I had thought LL had exorcised that before the end of 2011.

In my limited understanding of things I had thought that the OS upgrades to the newest Linux had been the cure.  Seems not.

The TIMEWARP is 100% for certain NOT back. That doesn't mean that a similar bug does not exist. The bug known as the TIMEWARP has been eradicated. Since it was a huge issue for so long people have latched onto it and claim that it is still around. It isn't. :-)

__Oskar

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Alexi Raynier wrote:

Oskar is the Blue Steel servers have been fixed check again, as of a few minutes ago they were all but unusable with the worst lag and unexpected crashes I have seen yet in sl.  Moreover they have been almost this bad for most of the last five weeks with a brief respite two weeks ago when they were apparently fixed, only to be quickly destroyed by more improvements.  The people that are paying tier for land on these servers deserve better at this point, and since both my home and the place where I make my living are on blue steel servers I have had very little income for the last several weeks and spent most of my time elsewhere or recovering from crashs and lag when I am there.  This is hardly the service I and the other paying customers deserve, and if it does not improve I see no reason to continue to pay for otherwise useless land in these area or to pay for services I am not hand have not been getting.  This is a serious problem and, if LL wishes to maintain creditability needs not only to be addressed but fixed and fixed so that it does not happen again. 

The BlueSteel regions have had different code on them every week for the last 5 weeks. If there is an issue there it wouldn't be unique to the BlueSteel regions and would exhibit the same behaviour in the main channel. When it comes to tracking down bugs in an RC channel what I need are bugs that are new and specific only to that RC. Those are the ones that we are trying to 'nip in the bud'. If you are noticing regular trends in decreased performance you can file a regular jira. That is an issue within itself. As far as the BlueSteel regions go nothing is different for them except they have the chance to get the code the main channel gets one week early.

__Oskar

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These things are sometimes hard to pin down. I was getting messages about script errors--something about too many calls for an audio file--yesterday, every time I crossed a sim boundary. Your guess is as good as mine whether it's the script itself, viewer to sim-server, or something involving the inventory server. But it sometimes seems that Oskar is the only responsible Linden who takes the trouble to tell us things, and that doesn't help.

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Ayesha Askham wrote:

@Dilbert & Tymus

Oh Lor that sounds very much as though the dreaded "Timewarp" is back.  I had thought LL had exorcised that before the end of 2011.

In my limited understanding of things I had thought that the OS upgrades to the newest Linux had been the cure.  Seems not.

Yea, everything was fine up untill about 2 or 3 weeks ago, and that started up but it is different than the bug before. The Physics fps is going down also. Before 3 weeks ago, the region was running great. Didn't have to restart for 3 days. Sometime a full week without a restart. Then suddenly this starts... Not sure what it is. But it is causing a daily problem. hopefully it gets reversed soon

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sorry for this i dont understand  you all say you have been working the blue steel rc region  ,but as of two days ago  it got so bad  ,having  a hard time getting around ,getting inventory to load even crashes  ,is anything going on that we should know about   and is there atime line when this will be fixed

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Indeed it is true Oskar is one of the few Lindens that will give any productive information and I truly believe he is doing aa good a job as possible with the RC servers, but at this point the issue may be much larger than the RC servers and extend to the core of the database itself, over which he has no control.  I makes no sense that so many key functions that depend on the core server and not the regional servers or viewer should be having trouble at this time unless that trouble is with the core of the database itself.  Moreover, the RC servers are not the only ones being effected by these problems just the ones being hit the worst by it, which makes sense, since they are in effect an lightning rod for the entire system.

If this is so the problem is out of Oskar's hands and all he can do is put bandaids on a gapping wound as he is in fact doing now, and it is up to others in engineering and LL management to make the hard decision to spend the money and time ti will take to restore the core database to something like normality or replace it.  The simple fact is the worst of these troubles begain when LL began to wildly install new elements like Web Profiles, Display Names and Mesh and while some of these problems have been dealt with, display names, I suspect is one of them, others continue to put an horrible strain on the database as a whole, and will continue to do so until the database is either upgraded to meet their demands or they are removed from the system.  Likewise the proliferation of mini games that we have seen over the last month as added to this load and probably needs to be looked at as well.  This, however , is not something Oskar or any member of the RC team has control over and as of now the central leadership of LL which could do something about this apparently has chosen to remain silent and inactive and may be in fact adding new stress to the system daily.

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